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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse
 
Out of curiosity who are getting City Charters? Know we are giving a good bunch but don't remember exactly who? Would this help with some of the Monarchists worries?
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse

The past is the past, if we tried to cleanse the land of people we deem unacceptable or have done unacceptable things in the past we would soon run out of people to actually rule over.
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse

And yeah. The past is in the past. If we didn't do this we wouldn't have people like Stannis being loyal to us. Or certain houses being screwed like the Tyrells and Tully's.
 
mrsean22 said:
Out of curiosity who are getting City Charters? Know we are giving a good bunch but don't remember exactly who? Would this help with some of the Monarchists worries?
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Darry, Blackwood, Bracken, Keath, Frey, Rykker, Cox, Stony Shore's Governor, Stark, Bolton, Footly, Royce, Velaryon (both branches?)... @Azel would have to remind me, it's mostly the Riverlanders that we explicitly promised charters for the most part, with everything else being variable.

I think we shouldn't be afraid to build more new cities though. Urbanization is where it's at.
 
Not much point with Royce, as they have Gulltown, and I feel 3 charters is vastly more than the North needs. That place is barely settled.


Though I'm honestly inclined to just ignore city charters as beneath notice.
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse

God I wanna include that line about how empty this place would be if we weren't willing to work with those who plotted to kill us at one point or another...

Hell couldn't that technically include Velayron and Celtigar too? We took a while to reach out to them and Velayron was desperate enough to bethroth Valeana to Joffrey at one point too. I'm still curious about what the hell the "dragon grace transference" ritual there was. Kinda hilarious that Cersei might have realized "keeping it in the family" fucked over Joffrey with regards to dragon taming.
 
Azel said:
Not much point with Royce, as they have Gulltown, and I feel 3 charters is vastly more than the North needs. That place is barely settled.


Though I'm honestly inclined to just ignore city charters as beneath notice.
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Just abolish the whole concept, and leave municipal rulings as more of an organic thing, with a formalization process to define the bounds, but only for organizational purposes for the local government, not something that the Crown actually defines as a privilege?

This does mean anyone with the wealth and resources to do it, will do it, which is... pretty much what we want anyway.
 
Crake said:
Just abolish the whole concept, and leave municipal rulings as more of an organic thing, with a formalization process to define the bounds, but only for organizational purposes for the local government, not something that the Crown actually defines as a privilege?

This does mean anyone with the wealth and resources to do it, will do it, which is... pretty much what we want anyway.
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Pretty much this.

The only one we promised something in that regard was Walder Prime, but his promise included a Titan Tooled river harbor and putting down a few city blocks on our dime. He'll be happy as long as we make those two things big enough.
 
@Jack vile Ripper, aaand now it's Pirate Sailor Cage. Does he/she wants the One Piece too?

[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse
 
A_Somebody said:
Hell couldn't that technically include Velayron and Celtigar too? We took a while to reach out to them and Velayron was desperate enough to bethroth Valeana to Joffrey at one point too. I'm still curious about what the hell the "dragon grace transference" ritual there was. Kinda hilarious that Cersei might have realized "keeping it in the family" fucked over Joffrey with regards to dragon taming.
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In Velaryon's defense, he went out on a massive limb and tried to conspire to make sure we weren't killed, until we drove the point home we were just fine in defending ourselves. And afterwards, the whole betrothal thing was just something that the Lannisters offered, which he didn't even agree to at that point. And didn't take much convincing to betray the Lannisters and conspire to smuggle his daughter into our court with their dragon egg.

He's pragmatic, but he did take big risks on our behalf really consistently.
 
Weren't city charters done in order to prevent growth and usurpation of the Crown's power? The fact that we're an absolute monarchy and control the entire military along side other important branches of the government make city charters pointless for us and only really limits the economy which we don't want.
 
A_Somebody said:
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse

God I wanna include that line about how empty this place would be if we weren't willing to work with those who plotted to kill us at one point or another...

Hell couldn't that technically include Velayron and Celtigar too? We took a while to reach out to them and Velayron was desperate enough to bethroth Valeana to Joffrey at one point too. I'm still curious about what the hell the "dragon grace transference" ritual there was. Kinda hilarious that Cersei might have realized "keeping it in the family" fucked over Joffrey with regards to dragon taming.
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Blood magic is about two things at the end of the day, birth and death and what one can give so can the other. Granted it would have been rather awkward for Joff's bride to die to get him a dragon so the Lannisters designed a work around that much like that one time Viserys died to try to remove a curse involved playing hopscotch with the line between life and death.
 
Trevor23 said:
Weren't city charters done in order to prevent growth and usurpation of the Crown's power? The fact that we're an absolute monarchy and control the entire military along side other important branches of the government make city charters pointless for us and only really limits the economy which we don't want.
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It's a bit more complex than that. In general, a city charter bestows some rights and obligations on the settlement and usually it also regulates how it interacts with the feudal system. However, we have a constitution and plenty of general laws regulating all of that, so the point is rather moot for us.
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse
 
[X] Agree, keeping your tone light and jesting, no need to remind anyone that some of those seated in this very hall must have once called you pirate and worse
 
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