[X] Have that talk with Bonnifer

Gotta be honest with y'all. I do not dislike the pairings. God Knows I won't part a woman with someone she's clearly smitten for.

It's just that... well, he's so mortal. So plain. Indistinguishable from any Westerosi Knight of any stripes. There's nothing special about him, he's mundane.

Sure, the same can be said from any of our Companions. All of them seldom carry any Arcane Artifacts in their beginnings nor magical bloodline. All of them claims their own brands of gifts from the maws of countless victory.

All I'm saying is, I respect whoever (and whatever) Rhaella chose to be her paramour. But, I was expecting more than just a Knight who swing his lance real good (in both meanings of the word).

Like, an Ancient Heaven Guard from Fallen Heaven or a son of a Pit Fiend General from the Plane of Fire or even an Archfey.
 
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[X] Have that talk with Bonnifer

Gotta be honest with y'all. I do not dislike the pairings. God Knows I won't part a woman with someone she's clearly smitten for.

It's just that... well, he's so mortal. So plain. Indistinguishable from any Westerosi Knight of any stripes. There's nothing special about him, he's mundane.

Sure, the same can be said from any of our Companions. All of them seldom carry any Arcane Artifacts in their beginnings nor magical bloodline. All of them claims their own brands of gifts from the maws of countless victory.

All I'm saying is, I respect whoever (and whatever) Rhaella chose to be her paramour. But, I was expecting more than just a Knight who swing his lance real good (in both meanings of the word).

Like, an Ancient Heaven Guard from Fallen Heaven or a son of a Pit Fiend General from the Plane of Fire or even an Archfey.
Normalcy is something to be cherished in this world gone mad. Rhaella's life has been hectic to put it lightly. I kinda get why she is so fond fo Bonifer. He is a reminder of the days where things didn't suck.

Also bonifer was Level 8 when he first showed up and considering how much we throw him into crap he's probably much higher.
 
Normalcy is something to be cherished in this world gone mad. Rhaella's life has been hectic to put it lightly. I kinda get why she is so fond fo Bonifer. He is a reminder of the days where things didn't suck.

Also bonifer was Level 8 when he first showed up and considering how much we throw him into crap he's probably much higher.
Bonifer is at least level 9, not that it matters too much where matters of the heart lay.

Also, he is a good person without ulterior motives who appreciates things about Rhaella other than her power, bloodline, wealth or influence.

That... would be a incredibly difficult thing to find elsewhere for one of her circumstances.
 
Bonifer is at least level 9, not that it matters too much where matters of the heart lay.

Also, he is a good person without ulterior motives who appreciates things about Rhaella other than her power, bloodline, wealth or influence.

That... would be a incredibly difficult thing to find elsewhere for one of her circumstances.

I know he's a good person. The poor guy's been acting like a kicked puppy before we even met him.

I think it's because of the Mythical osmosis/exposure to many Legendary and Society-changing characters that made my judgement a little tinted.

Like I said, I'm cool with them. I'm just hoping that the guy would show some truly exceptional showing of himself that Sagas would be written about him. I find the idea of mediocrity alien these days.
 
Didn't we already talk to Bonnifer after Timmy sent one of her minions after our mom? I think it was shortly after we defeated the Golden Company.
 
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Didn't we already talk to Bonnifer after Timmy sent one of her minions after our mom? I think it was shortly after we defeated the Golden Company.
No, never happened, any reference after those updates were how Viserys specifically did not interfere at all, beyond silently keep note of the fact that the two were spending time together and those occasions had romantic connotations. He didn't talk to his mom about it. He didn't mention it to Dany or any of his friends. He didn't even raise the subject with Bonifer. Closest to broaching it was when Viserys offered to spar with Ser Hasty, and shortly after it began realized that the invitation to swing swords at each other had... perhaps been full of unwanted implications. It was of such minor note that Viserys presumably acted like nothing was wrong and it wasn't anything but a friendly contest of skill.

If nothing has happened between them by this point, it's because Bonifer has gotten it into his head--perhaps not unwarranted or unfairly--that it isn't his place to make such overtures. And Rhaella keeps busy enough and has more going for her than an extension of romantic idles that she might actually expect him to make the first move--which from an ordinary person's circumstances of "a woman with a lot going for them", might be completely fair, but I would personally count it as a bit unreasonable to just make that assumption out of hand and so would Viserys.

At the end of the day the power imbalance is the biggest dealbreaker here, but Viserys tacitly saying "whatever you do, it's between you two" changes things significantly, as most of the issues lay with expecting a negative reaction from him due to such a development. Which, fair enough. How do you even begin broaching such a subject?

The answer: Very awkwardly, hopefully not too painfully.
 
The answer: Very awkwardly, hopefully not too painfully.
I mean, the easiest option would be if Rhaella clarified a possible interest towards Bonifer.
That way he wouldn't have to step over any invisible lines and Viserys could get by doing nothing in the matter.

But I guess she wouldn't act either without a push, so it's easier to talk to the knight than to our mother.
 
But I guess she wouldn't act either without a push, so it's easier to talk to the knight than to our mother.
To be honest, talking to her instead is just a batch of awkwardness and pain but for entirely different reasons.

At this point I'd say being explicit about the "it's not any of my business" is about as far away from overstepping personal boundaries as you can get. In fact, it's like a nega-version of overstepping boundaries. Clarifying them?

The issue lay in the fact, as you pointed out, she would also need to be pushed into acting. And it is indeed easier to tell Bonifer if he has any interest, the ball's pretty much already in his court, so to speak.
 
Part MMMDCCLXII: New Shoes for a New Road
New Shoes for a New Road

Seventeenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

The first day of the proceedings of the Curia's opening dawns bright and busy over the white walls of the palace, but for your first task today at least you have another sort of meeting to see to. The affairs of state do not obviate those of family, though you might count yourself more fortunate than the kings who came before you that the two do not conflict, and the worst you shall have to face today is awkwardness and misunderstanding. Still, you do not at once summon the knight, Bonifer Hasty, with whom you must speak, but instead call your sister to take her council, for she is more likely to know the mind of your mother in this matter and keep you from saying more than you should.

"Oh, she is definitely pining for him and him for her, unless I miss my guess, though I know the man less," Dany says. "Why he does not say something, I cannot guess, but as for mother..." she sighs and there is a mingled note of sadness and exasperation to it. "It is this whole 'ladies do not act first' thing that so many have been saddled with. I swear the Dornish are the sanest people west of the Narrow Sea when it comes to matters of the heart."

"I shall be sure to tell Oberyn that you think so," you reply, adding a touch of levity to the discussion before it can grow too dark.

"It is not his heart that is the trouble there," your sister scoffs, but her eyes are laughing. "Look, I get where it comes from, I'm not blind to the social pressures. If something happens, it is the woman that gets stuck bearing the child, but we have better wards against that than Moon Tea, there is no earthly reason to keep going with these sorts of morals." She says the last word with an edge of weary disgruntlement. "It's like you wear wooden clogs because those are the only shoes around, but even when that changes you keep them because you are used to the splinters."

You almost choke on your tea. "One hopes you did not say that too loudly around mother."

"Of course not, I'm not stupid," your sister replies. "I may have glared at the two of them a time or two wishing they would get on with it. Mother got what I was going for, I'm sure of it. She gave me this 'it's more complicated than you know, Daenerys' look. It is really, really is not. When you have the power, you make the rules. It's only sensible to make those rules so you are not feeling miserable over matters of the heart, when you have found someone to share that joy with."

"And Ser Hasty?" you prompt, not sure you want to hear the answer.

"He just looked sort of worried," she shrugs. "I figured mother would explain what the problem was and that would finally break the dam and get them moving."

"I am assuming that did not go according to plan then?" you prompt. Perhaps you should have been paying more attention, but it had seemed to you that your eye on the matter would do more harm than good.

"No, it did not, and I am all out of ideas save one," she replies. Then with eyes opened wide and ingenious, like a child in some mummer's farce, she asks softly. "Should I call you 'father' now, Ser Hasty?"

For a moment you are caught between sheer horror at the awkwardness that might engender and incredulous laughter. In the end, the laughter wins out. "Let's save that for... never. Yes, never sounds good. I'll talk to him."

"Well, alright then. See that you do, else I shall be saying that," she replies in mock imperiousness.


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Ser Bonifer Hasty looks in some ways unchanged from that day more than half a year ago when he had pledged his sword to your service, save that in place of arms and armor he now wears court garb in the purple and white of his House, though if anything, he looks more worried now than when he had first come before the throne to kneel. "There is no elegant way to say this without awkwardness, Ser, so I shall instead strive for clarity," you begin. "It is no business of mine and never has been who my mother chooses to show favor to. I trust her judgement and her wisdom in such matters. I do not give you leave to court her, but only because it is not my place to give or to retract such leave."

The knight all but sways in his place, and you think a feather might be enough to knock him over.

"Would that this be all that was needed, I would be more happy than words could tell, Your Grace," he finally finds his voice, forgetting new courtesies, not that you blame him for it. You do, however, blame him for his next words. "Yet what might be said of the fair queen when it should come to light that the name was placed beside one so low in standing as myself? The rumors were dark enough when there was naught to them but longing, even the captain of the Kingsguard bent his ear to them."
"Rumors?" You shake your head, staring to understand Dany's exasperation. "Ser, I have it on good authority that a year ago there were rumors going about in Westeros that had me using babes for soup stock. I do not imagine such things have been spared my mother's ears, much as I would have wished it otherwise. Now I ask you what to that is the empty tittering of a scandal starved court?"

"I..." he trails off then swallows and forces himself to carry on. "Your Grace, how can I ask her to put her hand in mine when I have nothing to offer but my lance and spear? Life is not some ballad heard in boyhood. When I am old and grey... well older and greyer than I am now, she shall yet be young, kept so by the magic in her songs. Should I then ask her to drag me through the ages like some lodestone of mortality?"

It is then that you realize Bonifer Hasty thinks more of songs and ballads than he himself realizes, his mind filled with forever such that he forgets the day at hand. Your tone grows softer in understanding. "Ser, the world is dark and filled with evil things and tidings may yet be black in the end. To none of us is eternity or even long life guaranteed. Better, I would think, to catch the moment when you can than to look only to the horizon."

Although your words are dark and foreboding, it seems to you as though a great weight was lifted from the knight's shoulders and in his eyes a new light kindled as he bids you farewell. That had been less painful than you might have feared.

What next?

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OOC: I know the vote is a bit weak, but this really needed a break point.
 
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"Of course not, I'm not stupid," your sister replies. "I may have glared at the two of them a time or two wishing they would get on with it. Mother got what I was going for I'm sure of it. She gave me this 'it's more complicated than you know, Daenerys' look. It is really really is not. When you have the power you make the rules it's only sensible to make those rules so you are not feeling miserable over matters of the heart when you have found someone to share that joy with."

Dany: "You have the power, you have the means, you have the authority. So pray tell, why in the Lightless Pit, do you not pin him right where he stand, mother?!"

Daenerys, you're showing your inner-Tiamat here. She's still new to this whole being part-Dragon business, give her time. Next thing you'll know she'll have a harem of men running at her beck and call.
 
If nothing else, the dude at least thinks long term rather than just short. A good trait to have even it makes him miss what's possibly right ahead of him
 
If nothing else, the dude at least thinks long term rather than just short. A good trait to have even it makes him miss what's possibly right ahead of him

To quote a certain wise-crack:

"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."

For the love of God, get your ass up there and talk to her, Ser Bonnifer! If you have time to fantasize about a beautiful end, then just live beautifully 'till the end.
 
"No, it did not, and I am all out of ideas save one," she replies. Then with eyes opened wide and ingenious, like a child in some mummer's farce, she asks softly. "Should I call you 'father' now, Ser Hasty?"

For a moment you are caught between sheer horror at the awkwardness that might engender and incredulous laughter. In the end the laughter wins out. "Let's save that for... never. Yes, never sounds good. I'll talk to him."

"Well alright then, see that you do else I shall be saying that," she replies in mock imperiousness.

Trolling little brat Dany is the best Dany. I can totally imagine her doing that.. especially when/if Bonifer formally marries Rhaella.

Also a good little character bit showing Bonifer's hopes and ambitions, though he likely misunderstands that that is not what she likes him for.
 
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