I'm much more greatly turned off voting for the Shaitan, with the realization that she is unlikely to stick around with her post long-term. For everyone else, that means a retirement in the Imperium and top-secret security clearance.

For her, that means going back to the Opaline Vault, and if she's successful in the Imperium as a military leader, probably a high office there, along with valuable military intelligence.

Hard pass. She can renounce her citizenship to the Peerless Empire and convince me she's loyal to the state before we consider it.
 
Yeah, I'm not terribly happy with the current leads either. Benjicot is pure and blatant nepotism and Neda is a potential security leak.
 
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] Ryos Lodaris
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa
 
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Question, can we get some more detail about what Red Ant has been doing since he signed on? Like he has been in the legions, but what rank has he held?
 
Question, can we get some more detail about what Red Ant has been doing since he signed on? Like he has been in the legions, but what rank has he held?
Equivalent of a Colonel. There were no formal ranks except General until the recent reform, so I left that out. Thirro was likewise roughly Colonel rank in practice.

So both one step below General, kept there due to their respective downsides. Red Ant would have been a liability against mortal armies PR wise and Thirro is... well... a bit rough around the edges.

Edit: Thirro is basically Rhango, but with all points the latter put into socials instead piled on top of his martial skill.
 
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Equivalent of a Colonel. There were no formal ranks except General until the recent reform, so I left that out. Thirro was likewise roughly Colonel rank in practice.

So both one step below General, kept there due to their respective downsides. Red Ant would have been a liability against mortal armies PR wise and Thirro is... well... a bit rough around the edges.

Edit: Thirro is basically Rhango, but with all points the latter put into socials instead piled on top of his martial skill.
There WERE formal ranks before the reform, @Azel... Colonel being one of them. They lead one (1) column, in a Legion, of which each Legion had two (2) columns.
 
There WERE formal ranks before the reform, @Azel... Colonel being one of them. They lead one (1) column, in a Legion, of which each Legion had two (2) columns.
Really? I could have sworn this was one of those topics where there was a ton of acerbic bitching about names and which thus was never fully settled.

My bad.
 
We probably should separate or add new marshalls for interplanar warfare. We've currently just finished fixing establishing our hold over westeros.

Where else are we going to be fighting? Are going to go attack YiTi?, Invading another plane? Raiding the Shaitan? Going underwater to fight the deep ones?
Or are we taking the fight to the Others?


What is our next war going to be?
 
Equivalent of a Colonel. There were no formal ranks except General until the recent reform, so I left that out. Thirro was likewise roughly Colonel rank in practice.

So both one step below General, kept there due to their respective downsides. Red Ant would have been a liability against mortal armies PR wise and Thirro is... well... a bit rough around the edges.
Thanks, I apreciate that clarification.

In light of that:

[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] Red Ant
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa


Netzachel, is a clear yes due to having apparently fought during the fall of elysium and only gained more experience since. While the two generals are less ideal their downsides are worth working around for their experience and abilities. I put Red Ant into essentially the same category as the generals with his comparative lack of experience being countered by his optics helping to counter Zhoa's downsides.

Benjicott should not be a marshal at this point due to lack of experience with their sort of work, but after a few years as a colonel and then general I could see him making the jump.

Ryos seems like he should be responsible for some sort of marine corp attached to our aerial/aquatic force not a marshall of our terrestrial legions.

The Shaitan cannot be trusted with sensitive stuff so they are out. I would just assign them to help advise our forces fighting in the Plane of Fire, where their experience would be of great use.

Benedict seems like a budget Netzachel, which is not bad per se but I prefer the original article and the generals over him due to vastly greater experience and having actually led armies respectively. Red Ant also wins out over him due to having practical experience and being good at energizing the troops. Honestly I think we could just pack him off to the military academy and have him teach our future commander's what he knows.

I like Broken Roots, but feel he would be better leading an elite force of our flesh forged troops rather than the legion. Though that does raise the question how integrated are our flesh forged troops into the Legion? Like all of those defense forces we have pumped out are they fully integrated into the legion hierarchy, a separate sub component within the legion (think IRL US Marines and the Navy) or independent? I could see picking Broken Roots over Red Ant and assigning him to oversee the flesh forged part of our forces depending upon how the Flesh Forged forces are organized.

Thiro is right out because we rely so heavily on undead and we intend to integrate Sarnor. Beyond that his lack of diplomatic aptitude is a serious problem.

I do not even get why Waynwood is here. Like why would we ever pick him with those drawbacks when all he does is make the people we just curb stomped and rendered obsolete happy? We also threw Westeros a bone with Tarley, and putting so many of them in the Curia as dukes, so more is not needed.

Edit:

[X] Ser Benjicot Brown

Brown and the Shaitan are tied for fourth, so I am voting strategically for the one I am less against.
 
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So far, the Legion makes no use of fleshforged creatures except for the Darkenbeasts. In the future, they will be fully integrated, either as battalion sized forces or company sized attachments to Legion batallions.

And yeah. Waynwood is there because he would make a lot of people, especially in the Vale, very happy and little else.
 
Ok, in light of that I can see putting Broken Roots in charge of a hyper elite Flesh Forged Battalion and helping to oversee the integration process but I do not think he needs to be a Marshall. If it turns out he works well with the human components of the legions going forward, we can always promote him latter since as the legion expands we will need more marshalls.
 
[X] Archmaester Benedict
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] Ryos Lodaris
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa
 
Come to think of, Netzachel is kinda the reverse of Iziku the Tax Devil in terms of PR issues.

Iziku is looking exceedingly sketchy at a distance, but gets very trustworthy once you spend some time with him. Which has little to do with his actual trustworthiness and a lot with his millenia of experience in getting people to trust him against their better judgement.

Netzachel is an Archon, so people will think positively of him when they see him, but the longer contact lasts, the more doubts creep in, what with your skin always crawling when he is nearby, the shadows moving oddly and the wine starting to turn into vinegar.

But he's oh so worth that bit of PR work.
 
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] Ryos Lodaris
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] Red Ant


What an interesting bunch of people we have here, eh?
 
...again, all these boring options!

[:V] New Tor
[:V] A Warforged Titan
[:V] The Harbinger
[:V] Broken Roots


[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] Ryos Lodaris
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] Red Ant
 
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