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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
I agree with @mmgaballah on this one. That's a bit more info than folks need.

What would be a good front page image, though? Viserys grasping the hand of the High Septon maybe, as the man acknowledges Viserys and established the Faith of the Seven as accepting our rule?
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It's exactly the same information as you want to include, just as a simple picture.

Just label the giant snake dude "Archdevil" and show the Erinyes fighting him after being freed.
 
TennoSasuke said:
I think we should also mention the fact that they were angels once who now seek redemption and betrayed their masters
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That's... not at all what's going on.

The narrative is casting off their Infernal Overlords.

Many of these Erinyes stand by their initial actions in Falling from their Grace, they just don't agree with the current policies that Baator has taken to (since it is literally cosmic poison).
 
Crake said:
That's... not at all what's going on.

The narrative is casting off their Infernal Overlords.

Many of these Erinyes stand by their initial actions in Falling from their Grace, they just don't agree with the current policies that Baator has taken to (since it is literally cosmic poison).
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But many peasants and small folk of westeros are illiterate and trust their septons more than us so no mention of them being angels once will only make many of them see us consorting with fiends

I think we should mention angels in our service working and fighting alongside and helping their fallen kindred to rise
 
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Azel said:
It's exactly the same information as you want to include, just as a simple picture.

Just label the giant snake dude "Archdevil" and show the Erinyes fighting him after being freed.
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I'm having trouble coming up with a good description of this that doesn't sound cheesy. What exactly did you have in mind?
 
Goldfish said:
I'm having trouble coming up with a good description of this that doesn't sound cheesy. What exactly did you have in mind?
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That. Literally that.

Carricatures are supposed to be clear, not nice looking.

Observe:

 
@Azel, this is what I've got. Thoughts?

-[] The section detailing the exploits of the Imperial Erinyes will feature a full color image occupying half a page. In it, a grotesquely corpulent serpentine monster will be shown grasping a handful of chains, with each link of the chains appearing to glow like molten iron while being formed from nonsense words written in Infernal script. These chains will stretch from the monster's hand to pierce the hearts of a dozen beautiful winged warrior women, each garbed in blackened armor and wielding a bow of blood red flames. A massive Red Dragon, it's scales lined with gold, will be shown tearing these chains asunder with its claws.
 
OK so I think showing off the times would work better in an interlude from a citizen's POV later, I'll mark that down to cover when we need a break at some point mid-month. What do you guys think?

I'm doing by best to keep us all on target story wise but still have enough variation not to allow the narrative to drag.

Alternatively I could do the paper now, as it is fresh off the presses.
 
DragonParadox said:
OK so I think showing off the times would work better in an interlude from a citizen's POV later, I'll mark that down to cover when we need a break at some point mid-month. What do you guys think?

I'm doing by best to keep us all on target story wise but still have enough variation not to allow the narrative to drag.

Alternatively I could do the paper now, as it is fresh off the presses.
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I like the idea of saving it for later. It has a bonus of having time for the citizens to debate.
 
DragonParadox said:
OK so I think showing off the times would work better in an interlude from a citizen's POV later, I'll mark that down to cover when we need a break at some point mid-month. What do you guys think?

I'm doing by best to keep us all on target story wise but still have enough variation not to allow the narrative to drag.

Alternatively I could do the paper now, as it is fresh off the presses.
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Nothing says we can't have multiple citizen POV chapters, perhaps from very different kinds of citizens.

The POV of a blacksmith in King's Landing will be very different from an guard in Lannisport, after all.

Of course, a chapter about the special edition of the Imperial Times would be cool, too.
 
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To be honest, right now, specifically right now... I do not want a series of interludes.

I want to focus on dealing with the start of integration. Nobles are fond of their manufactured chaos.
 
Ok I hear you guys loud and clear, paper interlude later in the month.

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  • [X] The Imperial Times, Special Coronation Edition!
    -[X] In lieu of an editorial, this edition will include a transcript of Viserys' speech, the one he gave to the entirety of King's Landing upon his triumphant return to Westeros as Imperator of the Imperium.
    --[X] Following the speech, there will be a carefully curated but completely truthful section of personal testimonials given by citizens of King's Landing who heard the speech, explaining the event to readers. They will be from a range of people, low and high born alike.
    -[X] Tales of Unification: This section will highlight the events that occurred on the night Westeros was brought into the Imperium, focusing on the struggles and triumphs of our citizens, the good sense of many Westerosi lords who welcomed our invitations, and the fates of those who rejected them.
    --[X] Pride of place among these accounts will be given to the actions of the Praetorians, who were vital in several important engagements, especially in King's Landing and Casterly Rock.
    --[X] Osyrx and Siduri's discovery of the alliance between the Lannisters and the Formians, and their subsequent rescue of the young Lord Mallister from vile enchantments at significant risk to their own lives will also get special mention.
    -[X] A Tale of Folly and Foolishness: Here we will share an account of Lord Garret Trant's premeditated murder of his entire family, of whom the crew of the Dawnstar were only able to save two, his wife and his youngest daughter.
    --[X] This section will also speak briefly but glowingly of Usizil, an Erinyes sworn to Imperial service and temporary crew member of the Dawnstar. A Devil for longer than Human civilization has existed in Westeros, Usizil chose to sever her ties with Hell and join the Imperium for hopes of a better way, a chance of make a difference. Her latest efforts are remarkable, for she was miraculously able to share a tiny portion of her inherent power with a young Anne Trant, restoring life to a child who had already been shoved over the precipice of death by her hateful father's poison.
    --[X] Usizil's actions will serve as a perfect chance to introduce our new Westerosi citizens to the small number of Devils in Imperial service, primarily the Sisters of Battle but not limited to them. While the forces of Hell are undoubtedly our enemies, not all such forces wish to remain beholden to their ancient, unforgiving masters, and have thus seized upon the opportunity we gave them to forge a better path.
    --[X] The section detailing the exploits of the Imperial Erinyes will feature a full color image occupying half a page. In it, a grotesquely corpulent serpentine monster will be shown grasping a handful of chains, with each link of the chains appearing to glow like molten iron while being formed from nonsense words written in Infernal script. These chains will stretch from the monster's hand to pierce the hearts of a dozen beautiful winged warrior women, each garbed in blackened armor and wielding a bow of blood red flames. A massive Red Dragon, it's scales lined with gold, will be shown tearing these chains asunder with its claws.
    ---[X] There's a time for added context and depth to actions, and the Erinyes could certainly use them. Veterans from warring with Demons of the Pit, the Furies sworn to prosecute the enemies of the Imperator are in themselves firebrands who were able to cast off their own chains to Baator thanks to the potency of the magics wielded by the Imperator and his Companions and specialty crafted rituals which pushed the boundaries of mortal spellcraft. The Furies in turn took this opportunity to help cast of the chains of others shortly thereafter. (Account of the battle against the Brazen Throne and the raiding of an Adamantine convoy goes here, with interviews from some of those slaves freed.)
    ---[X] But it is not just perdition or the more prosaic slavery that they have eschewed, but also abetting the enemies of all life, fighting and shedding blood by the Imperium's legions against ravenous hordes of the unliving. (Accounts of the battle before the walls of Sarnath, and before that Sallosh, with interviews from officers, preferably knights for an extra bit of zing, and regular troops).
    ---[X] Lastly, they have even struck back at their former slaver, slaying and chasing his agents on the mortal plane wherever they might be found, most recently in Westeros. (Go into accounts of devils operating in the Vale, which has had rumors enough of infernal activity thanks to the Faith spreading how they were fighting them--which is true, though less effective at it had Viserys not intervened there multiple times through his agents and allies).
    -[X] A Tale of Horror: The many misdeeds of Tywin Lannister will be detailed here for all to see, from his sending Gregor Clegane and Amory Lorch to slay princess Ellia and her children during the sack of King's Landing during the Usuper's War which lead to our exile to Braavos in years past, to his more recent crimes, the binding of the Golden Shields, nearly all of the Lords of the Westerlands, and several others from neighboring regions with invisible chains of sorcery, such that his will became their own, allowing him to control their actions as if they were puppets for him to make dance as he desired.
    -[X] The Imperium Wants You!: The citizens of Westeros have long been denied opportunities to advance and better themselves by the Lords of the land and the lack of resources available to them. With the Unification, this sad state of affairs is no more. In the coming months, citizens will be encouraged to join one of the many fine institutions of Imperial service, from the heroic Legions for those with a martial bent to the sorcerous Scholarium for those with the potential and will to work magic, and everything in between. Education will soon be available for those who wish to learn to read and write and perform arithmetic, to heal the sick, to build and tinker, and all of the other skills and knowledge needed to help our new Westerosi brothers and sisters thrive within the Imperium.
    [X] An additional effort to go along with what we will be trying to accomplish with the Imperial Times.
    -[X] The important part is to counter all the populists coming out of the woodwork going for local and regional Councils, who are running on a platform of 'getting Devils out of Government'.
    -[X] And maybe ensure they're publicly disgraced.
    --[X] The Inquisition can spread a variety of advantageous rumors and spread the appropriate propaganda, but leaning on certain interests to push platforms in the Regional council to justify why Viserys can 'make even devils safe for popular consumption' is ideal. The populists can have their uses, if they're in our pocket.
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One Autumn Leaf said:
I foresee a fuckton of rebellions in Westeros. Which is fine because we have no issues eliminating houses.
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I on the other hand foresee no rebellions what so ever , for the same reason the nobles rebelled against Aegon the conqueror's weak son but never against Aegon himself despite the fact that all the same reasons they cited for rebelling against his son also applied to Aegon cause unlike Aegon the nobles saw his son as weak despite him possessing dragons after all he was no conqueror , Viserys is very much Aegon the conqueror come again only even stronger so the nobles will likely take a wait for a weaker king to rebel against stance unaware that Viserys is effectively immortal
 
mmgaballah said:
I on the other hand foresee no rebellions what so ever , for the same reason the nobles rebelled against Aegon the conqueror's weak son but never against Aegon himself despite the fact that all the same reasons they cited for rebelling against his son also applied to Aegon cause unlike Aegon the nobles saw his son as weak despite him possessing dragons after all he was no conqueror , Viserys is very much Aegon the conqueror come again only even stronger so the nobles will likely take a wait for a weaker king to rebel against stance unaware that Viserys is effectively immortal
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Oh, we're not hiding the immortality. The lords of Westeros aren't leaving Sorcerer's Deep without a painful understanding of what Viserys being a True Red means. That "may he reign for twice ten-thousand years" blessing from the genies is no empty boast.
 
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