Is that a spell I can use to role-playing as the MIB. Sign me the fuck up. My urban fantasy game got a lot more interesting.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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This is true. The spell explicitly allows restoration with Miracle.
We can exploit this.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Nawt really what I mean.
He just needs to stay in this timeline - something we can't afford for half our Companions here would straight up die of old age - and keep Butterflying thigns by doing minor-to-moderate changes.
It is millennia before our timeline, the tiniest of changes fuck with everything.
And the Constructs charged with keeping that sort of change not happening are royally fucked as of right now
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Ahkay, this much makes me shut up about "buh wuh, Miracle cheese-spam is bad" for now, carry on boiz.
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Getting that Chronomancer makes us forgive a lot of cheese. Prime example of too dangerous to leave alive.
Depending on what the staff is, we can probably also use that against him. Hopefully without destroying it.
Fairly sure the chronomancer is from this time and is just projecting the ritual into the future.Nawt really what I mean.
He just needs to stay in this timeline - something we can't afford for half our Companions here would straight up die of old age - and keep Butterflying thigns by doing minor-to-moderate changes.
It is millennia before our timeline, the tiniest of changes fuck with everything.
And the Constructs charged with keeping that sort of change not happening are royally fucked as of right now
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
I don't think it will matter once the ritual is sealed? @DragonParadox?
I also don't think we should try to hunt the Chronomancer down. We're not in our own time and that is limiting our options, while I think whatever is going on with time in general is helping the Chronomancer significantly. It used far too many actions in the last two rounds for something really fucky to not be going on. The longer we stay here the better the chance for bad shit to happen, and the Chronomancer can afford to run or hide longer than we can afford to chase it, or it might be going for reinforcements.
Let's just stop the tidal wave, finish the ritual, and take our new Illithid loot and get the he'll out of Dodge, y'all.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
I just feel like DP's letting some things to be swayed into "less dangerous/smart/persistent than really should've been"-territory to keep narrative contained, sometimes.
This Aboleth really ought to force us into a time-war out of spite of us having fucked up the Drowny's creation.
Miracle + Staff combo is a cheesy way to counter that, and while somewhat reasonable based off Desintegration Sphere's spell-description, I couldn't justify that before, since it seemed to fall into the much-dreaded (for me, awnyway) "gather skin flakes off the forest".
And it felt like DP's letting us gun down an enemy instead of making it as dangerous/smart as it ought to be.
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- ferreries
Wait, is the Chronomancer even aware of who we are and were we come from? I was under the impresion that he(it?) was a native, so to speak. Someone from the past basically. From its point of view we should be a random dragon that suddenly appeared to fuck with their plans. How would he even know who to retaliate against if we just finish the ritual and then fuck off to our present?Nawt really what I mean.
He just needs to stay in this timeline - something we can't afford for half our Companions here would straight up die of old age - and keep Butterflying thigns by doing minor-to-moderate changes.
It is millennia before our timeline, the tiniest of changes fuck with everything.
And the Constructs charged with keeping that sort of change not happening are royally fucked as of right now
I feel like I'm missing something, could someone explain?
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- The Netherlands
he knows we are from the future due to his kibe at the start how much he knows is unknown
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- Germany
Well, he could certainly try to fuck with us in roughly 8000 years once he recognises the annoying little shit of a Sorcerer that burns down a few of his fellow's fortresses.
Also he would have unlimited time to spoil our work on this ritual, since he knows for sure that we messed with it.
I'm not sure he can do that either. If the deep ones could just infinitely prune the timeline then the iron islands should have been full of doppelgängers and sleeper agents before the game even started.Nawt really what I mean.
He just needs to stay in this timeline - something we can't afford for half our Companions here would straight up die of old age - and keep Butterflying thigns by doing minor-to-moderate changes.
It is millennia before our timeline, the tiniest of changes fuck with everything.
And the Constructs charged with keeping that sort of change not happening are royally fucked as of right now
There's some sort of limit here, we just need to find out what it is. I think the illithid can only open malleable time loops like this for a limited span, and can't trivially contradict events that happen in them. That'd explain why he didn't meet us at the rune circle with an army, and why the deep ones as a whole haven't already won on Planetos.
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Well in theory, he could figure out we're proto-Valyrian and go to proto-Valyria and find that it is either full of Red Dragons or of crazy and powerful dragonblooded humans depending on the time period and then fuck right off. But yeah, guy doesn't actually know who we are.
Sure if he travels all the way to the future and asks his future colleagues they'll tell him we're Viserys Targaryen, but I'm not sure he can do that easily.
The only reason we got here was because of the ritual, and that only leads to one specific point in time in one specific area, if he follows us through when we go back we'll just kill him.
Also, the Illithids and their friends certainly can't time travel to the era of lower magic when the Material Plane was cut off, if they could they'd have already done that, so no killing Viserys before the return of magic for them.
Changing the timeline too much is probably the sort of thing that gets lots of otherwise uninvolved people trying to murk you anyhow, even if the Inevitables aren't around anymore. Wouldn't be surprised if Hell was obligated to be the Time Police as part of their treaty with Axis.
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He declared us unborn, so even if he's not personally aware of who we are we didn't exactly hide our identities. He probably has ways to figure out when and where we live.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
They are a Chronomancer. A squid-aligned one at that.
Assume they are aware of all high-spellcasting Dragons with highly distinctive "molten gold streaming between the scales" and unusual (for an Adult Dragon) coloration.
That is to say, we are very fucking distinctive, and a major enough figure a Chronomancer of Squids would have an idea of us - being beyond time and all.
Assuming otherwise is a fallacy likely to result in many, many butterflies we'd hate to see on returning in 'our' timeline.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
The staff belongs to our captured Illithid, not the escaped Chronomancer.
As long as we finish the ritual and leave this time, the time loop should be complete, meaning that our past/the future cannot be changed else we would have never come back, etc, etc, paradox, etc.
Using the Staff of Ages for that purpose also requires an hour long ritual, which we don't have time for and would leave us sitting ducks.
Exactly. We are all disguised, Mind Blanked, and Cloak of Khybered.
As far as it will know, strangers (possibly travlers from the future) attempted to stop the "birth" of the Drowned God, then they fled, not to be be seen again for thousands of years.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
So as far as I can gather the plan now is to book the squid, miracle the chronomancer's flesh back into existence so we can reel in the fishy fucker before we get stuck playing Chrono Trigger for a year, slap the tidal wave down, MIB flash everyone important except for that one maniac screaming about UFO's every five minutes, and get out of here before we end up becoming our own Ancestor.
I miss anything?
I miss anything?
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- ferreries
We still need to finish the ritual I think.
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- Germany
I agree with all of that save the "attempted" part.
He knows we changed the oath for some reason. Maybe he doesn't know why, but I'm sure he can make guesses why would have wanted to mess with this.
And that means he could, without any need for more time-shenenigans, spend years and decades and centuries on figuring out what happens to the Drowned God and what our alterations may result in.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
I don't think they can do 'whatever'.
But if this guy is local to the time we're in, and not a newcomer to the 'past' through time-travel, we'd be leaving him in a perfect space to naturally change the timeline in ways we'd hate.
Because we are the cause of the changes then, having pushed him into acting against us, or some shit.
What my paranoia is trying to say here, I guess -
No matter if we finish the ritual, the very fact we had a fight is a timeline-change if he's local.
He gets to fuck with time if not killed, likely fucking our timeline over as a result, even if he doesn't know who we are.
If he's not local to the time, he still gets to change things - like we would if we stay here for a bit after the ritual's complete (looking for Heart Trees' the excuse. But we could do more if we were amd enough to).
Sure he won't change thigns about Drowny now. But other things?
Y'all wanna bet that he won't find a way to fuck things up, being behind us for thousands of years?
Hell, all he needs is to leave a message for local-time Squids to have them act against the faith of Drowny for these millennia.
But if this guy is local to the time we're in, and not a newcomer to the 'past' through time-travel, we'd be leaving him in a perfect space to naturally change the timeline in ways we'd hate.
Because we are the cause of the changes then, having pushed him into acting against us, or some shit.
What my paranoia is trying to say here, I guess -
No matter if we finish the ritual, the very fact we had a fight is a timeline-change if he's local.
He gets to fuck with time if not killed, likely fucking our timeline over as a result, even if he doesn't know who we are.
If he's not local to the time, he still gets to change things - like we would if we stay here for a bit after the ritual's complete (looking for Heart Trees' the excuse. But we could do more if we were amd enough to).
Sure he won't change thigns about Drowny now. But other things?
Y'all wanna bet that he won't find a way to fuck things up, being behind us for thousands of years?
Hell, all he needs is to leave a message for local-time Squids to have them act against the faith of Drowny for these millennia.
It could just be a closed time loop, we always return and fight them and then they just do what they did in the original timeline.
Because it doesn't know who or when we are.
