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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Any specific place we'd be really stoked to know the detailed history of?
And/or any detail on the magics of?

Learning stuff by casting Legends Lore, and taking a look at stuff that didn't survive to Imperial Era is a-okay paradoxes-wise.
Unlike making self-fulfilling prophecies or changing the timeline.

If Wall is built, the magics on it are probably way fresher and easier to look into. Or harder, depending on how the systems will percieve us, I suppose.
Etc.
Any 'legendary' lcoations of ASOIAF canon/lore that we'd like to take a look at?
 
Artemis1992 said:
We could make a fresh start here I guess.

Just not go back in our time. Is that even an option?
Or would surviving Inevitables eventually start to notice and kill us, long before they are as weakened as they were in our time?
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It's after the sundering of Heaven. You can tell because The Great Empire of the Dawn is gone and humans have spread to Westeros.
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate

I'm just hoping we don't retcon Viserys and company out of existence with these actions.
 
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Andy0915 said:
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate

I'm just hoping we don't retcon Viserys and company out of existence with these actions.
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That's why I've formulated the whole thing in a way that it is basically a prophecy that will be realized in the exact moment we wish to return to, while being indistinguishable from the original timeline before. Aife's action with the coin was a lot riskier in that way, as we are now having a stable loop in causility. Events of the past could not have happened without actions in the future, where my alterations do not change the events, just their meaning and outcome.

Everything else will hopefully be covered by the natural resilience of time, but this is precisely why I do not want to cause any more ripples. Especially not such blatant ones as poking around in other places or stealing shit.

Contacting Yss might be fine on account of his perception of time being non-linear too, but I'm worried about him potentially not having fully split yet and thus the dominant Yss entity in this time being a lot less friendly to us then our Yss.
 
Azel said:
It's after the sundering of Heaven. You can tell because The Great Empire of the Dawn is gone and humans have spread to Westeros.
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That can't be quite right.

I mean, Heaven's Sundering could have happened long before the Long Night, okay.
But the Long Night was definitly happening at the same time (Ca 8000 years before Aegon) both in Yi-Ti and Westeros and that was the event that ended the Golden Empire as far as I can tell.

So humans, the First Men, must have come to Westeros long before the fall of the Golden Empire, otherwise it wouldn't make sense that people have fought the Void-minions on all sides of the world.

Unless you want to tell me that the Void totally failed at coordination and got punked first in the furthest east by Dragons, then slightly further west near Yi-Ti by the remnants of the Golden Empire and then millenia later again by the First Men/Children alliance?
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate

If it really is something we can always just ask Yss after the fact. It's not like he wouldn't know
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate
 
Artemis1992 said:
That can't be quite right.

I mean, Heaven's Sundering could have happened long before the Long Night, okay.
But the Long Night was definitly happening at the same time (Ca 8000 years before Aegon) both in Yi-Ti and Westeros and that was the event that ended the Golden Empire as far as I can tell.

So humans, the First Men, must have come to Westeros long before the fall of the Golden Empire, otherwise it wouldn't make sense that people have fought the Void-minions on all sides of the world.

Unless you want to tell me that the Void totally failed at coordination and got punked first in the furthest east by Dragons, then slightly further west near Yi-Ti by the remnants of the Golden Empire and then millenia later again by the First Men/Children alliance?
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No. The sundering of Heaven and the fallen of The Great Empire of the Dawn are the same events, but both happened long before the Long Night.

This is a divergence from the implied timeline of canon ASOIAF, but I can definitely state as much for the purpose as this quest, as that is a part of background that I wrote.
 
Azel said:
No. The sundering of Heaven and the fallen of The Great Empire of the Dawn are the same events, but both happened long before the Long Night.

This is a divergence from the implied timeline of canon ASOIAF, but I can definitely state as much for the purpose as this quest, as that is a part of background that I wrote.
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Does that mean eastern Essos had two major Events?
First the Fall of the Empire and then another attack from the Bloodstone Emperor during the Long Night?
 
Artemis1992 said:
Does that mean eastern Essos had two major Events?
First the Fall of the Empire and then another attack from the Bloodstone Emperor during the Long Night?
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Westeros too, but those events are so ancient that even the Children of the Forest don't have a proper accounting of it, what with being mortals.
It also didn't affect them nearly as much, what with the Sundering playing out mostly on the Outer Planes with even the Dawn Empire being just a side theatre to the whole show.
 
Azel said:
Westeros too, but those events are so ancient that even the Children of the Forest don't have a proper accounting of it, what with being mortals.
It also didn't affect them nearly as much, what with the Sundering playing out mostly on the Outer Planes with even the Dawn Empire being just a side theatre to the whole show.
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Okay, for a moment I was worried there.

I just wrote something about the Cities of the Bloodless Men that assumed an east-affecting Long Night roughly 8000 years ago and would have had to change a lot if that weren't the case.
 
DragonParadox said:
Something amusing occurs to you there in the dark, below the weight of cursed ages. "We can make Tiamat's fall preordained."
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Syrax after we do this and return to our timeline:

Because c'mon, she wouldn't miss a chance to act like this was totally a part of her plan to bitchslap Tiamat again, all along :V


...Actually, what's up with is having not heard jack shit from her since, like, ever?

The last stuff we've seen of her was in context of... ehn that one time when we had a vision of how :turian: bad :turian: we were maybe ending up, and changed a few state policies (only to revert all of them later =p)?

Like, I get that she's a salty subject because of how her appearances have always ended up in salt and people leaving (only to come back later =p), but that's OOC shite, why she's being all silent after having been quite talkative at the start, IC?
Even after we punted F!Aegon and dunked on Timmie's avatar?

Is that you Aberi'ing her out of the narrative, @DragonParadox?
 
egoo said:
Syrax after we do this and return to our timeline:

Because c'mon, she wouldn't miss a chance to act like this was totally a part of her plan to bitchslap Tiamat again, all along :V


...Actually, what's up with is having not heard jack shit from her since, like, ever?

The last stuff we've seen of her was in context of... ehn that one time when we had a vision of how :turian: bad :turian: we were maybe ending up, and changed a few state policies (only to revert all of them later =p)?

Like, I get that she's a salty subject because of how her appearances have always ended up in salt and people leaving (only to come back later =p), but that's OOC shite, why she's being all silent after having been quite talkative at the start, IC?
Even after we punted F!Aegon and dunked on Timmie's avatar?

Is that you Aberi'ing her out of the narrative, @DragonParadox?
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She can only act as a "Just as Planned" Smug little shit. Considering the stuff we are pulling off, she must be finding that fairly difficult.
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate

Oh boy, this is going to be one hell of a trick to pull off. Let's do it.
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate
 
DragonParadox said:
All save for one that is, Urras the Old, Urras the Grey, him Crowned In Serpent's Teeth, slayer of the Great Nagga.
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Makes me wonder if he's rocking this:
Longevity (Su)
Upon taking this ability, you can no longer die from old age. If you have penalties to your physical ability scores due to aging, you no longer take those penalties. You still continue to age, and you gain all the benefits to your mental ability scores.
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And if he is in fact rocking Mythic Longevity, I wonder what finally killed him. Angry Storm God champion? Hungry Ulitharid?
 
[X] No sense in causing more ripples than you must, continue with the plan of finding 'loyal' Ironborn to impersonate
 
Duesal said:
Makes me wonder if he's rocking this:

And if he is in fact rocking Mythic Longevity, I wonder what finally killed him. Angry Storm God champion? Hungry Ulitharid?
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Longevity doesn't turn you immortal. He could have died from something as mundane as slipping on the stairs.

You'd be surprised how many historical figures of great import died in really pointless and asinine ways.
 
We are surprisingly consistent with doing paradoxes.
Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Jan 5, 2021 at 10:50 AM, finished with 55 posts and 16 votes.
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We do one thing and don't touch anything else. At all. Even if potentially super-profitable. But paradox's still there.

The last time has been...
The Dreamer, methinks, the prophetic ancestor of ours to whom we've talked through time.

That's the second time we fuck with causality though.

I wonder if there's time-o-mancy open for us as a study field after this-
the initiator Snek we killed in Oblivion's SNecropolis was the sweetest of cheeses, and considering we're here because of the Squids' acting...

Worth looking into making our own time-patrol one day, maybe? :V

Inevitables are overrated (and dunked on), we need Super Sentai Power Rangers Chromatic Kobolds: Time Force!

(Use the Imperial Deity instead of the Morphing Grid. Wham.)
 
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Azel said:
If you guys insist on doing something else, I've got a few benign-ish ideas...
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I am all hype for doing stuff so long as the paradoxes are self-contained and don't ruin 'our' timeline from random consequences over the millenia.

Like fucking off to some (high-magic) places that got destroyed in aeons and taking a look while we can.
Or otherwise collecting knowledge from this far behind 'our' time.

Hell, we can have Lya engineer a magical calculator set to solve some "unsolvable" math problems and leave it buried, leaded, Mindblanked, for these 8k+ years.
...gotta make sure it won't achieve sentience over time, of course.

Do share what you have in mind, though.
 
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