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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
@Acolyte it is just interrogation, not any sort of re-writting their mind.
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The argument revolves around the "...up to having Yss chew on him and spew out a version that would be more forthcoming with answers"-part that was initially in the vote.

And the fact that it's even an option makes it seem like we are too Evil in the way we handle peopel we capture, period.
Even if we only used it less than a handful of times, and it's there just in case.

Acolyte said:
How do you add the Turian air Quotes.
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It's in the "smilies" under the "elaborate" tab.
Search for "TurianQuote" or just write : turian : without the spaces.
 
Enemies who get included in the revolving door do not remain on the revolving door for very long.

Think about why that is. They tend to do crazier and more un-fucking-acceptable shit the longer that can gets kicked down the road.
 
egoo said:
I am okay with that, but am confused still why it's now of all times that the fact we have Yss on call to do the thing is making people yucked out.
It's not like we even used him often, it's for really weird edge cases only, but-
Why not keep him as an option, at least?

If we learn that all other methods failed, will we allow the guy to just die?
Will we really? Aware that he's hiding something even our bullshit couldn't get through to?
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My issue with it was that it read to me like "specifically use the nastiest options for the purpose of causing this guy pain" rather than just allowing for feeding him to one of our gods. I object to that reasoning because its a deviation in Viserys' behavior and I'd prefer if we don't start walking down that road.

I'll admit that I forgot that Yss could kill people and dump their memories into a new outsider though. For some reason that part of the vote sounded more like asking them to psychically mutilate him into compliance instead of copying the useful parts of his memories. That's my bad. Sorry about that @Crake

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BronzeTongue said:
My issue with it was that it read to me like "specifically use the nastiest options for the purpose of causing this guy pain" rather than just allowing for feeding him to one of our gods. I object to that reasoning because its a deviation in Viserys' behavior and I'd prefer if we don't start walking down that road.

I'll admit that I forgot that Yss could kill proposed dump their memories into a new outsider though. For some reason that part of the vote sounded more like asking them to psychically mutilate him into compliance instead of copying the useful parts of his memories. That's my bad. Sorry about that @Crake
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@Goldfish
Is that last part unacceptable, or acceptable?

Because my villainous initial write-in was indeed better.

And I'm more than willing to go back to it.
 
egoo said:
And the fact that it's even an option makes it seem like we are too Evil in the way we handle peopel we capture, period.
Even if we only used it less than a handful of times, and it's there just in case.
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I think that the problem is that we normally don't need to use that option, simply because our other more simple methods are effective enough. So some people mistook Viserys "not needing to use it" for "not using it for moral reasons".

At least that's what I think they were arguing. I might have misunderstood.
 
[X] Plan Comprehensive
-[X] "Mercy?" Laugh. You're all out of it, unfortunately. "Maybe you haven't been paying attention."
-[X] Interrogate him with Greater Curses and Brainspider. Extract all important lore and secrets, with special attention to how he cast that Weird and if he perhaps knows anything about Renly the Changeling.
-[X] Afterwards, put him into a bottle and add him to the larder.

I see no reason to waste a perfectly fine sacrifice.
 
BronzeTongue said:
My issue with it was that it read to me like "specifically use the nastiest options for the purpose of causing this guy pain" rather than just allowing for feeding him to one of our gods. I object to that reasoning because its a deviation in Viserys' behavior and I'd prefer if we don't start walking down that road.
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This part. This part specifically irritates me.

We have long established torture is a moronic way to acquire information. The most thorough means have little to do with the most cruel ones.

[X] Azel
 
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Isn't the method to use the soul of the creature as payment to transfer all memories and knowledge of said creature into new creature?
I don't understand the problem here.
 
@Azel Could you perhaps add a part where we feed him to Yss to create a new Outsider if the interrogation doesn't work? I'm pretty sure it won't actually be necessary, but I really want it on record that it is an option.

[X] Azel.
 
Shador said:
Aparently some voters thought it was a vote to torture the guy? I'm really not sure why.
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Because our rather business-like disregard for the lives of sacrifice-bait sometimes gets interpreted for cruelty.

I'm not going to lie, it especially irritates me when someone like this just assumes that sparing their life is on the table after an offer of surrender with better terms was on the table before the moment of his death / defeat.

Mostly because it makes them look rather foolish, and I have no patience for fools.
 
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