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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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I don't think she was actually all that close to any of the nobles from the Court of Stars? It's unlikely that anyone she cares about were affected by our ritual.
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I think as a person she's going to be seven levels of horrified by what we just did. Even if she didn't have friends slain among the court she still met with the Queen and was geared up by the artisans. And two of her companions being members of the court just muddles the waters even in the face of what the Queen was trying to scheme with the Reach. There is a long, long jump from "We have to find a way to convince the Queen not to do this," to "Seven hells, the Dragon King just used heathen gods and murdered the Queen and most of the high nobility of the Court of Stars, and now is seizing the moment to demand their surrenders."
 
She was shocked even when we just wiped out that little alchemist-guild in King's Landing and this is a thousand times bigger.
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No wait, that was Lanna.

I'm starting to mix up the PCs I once had hopes of coexisting with.
 
Artemis1992 said:
She was shocked even when we just wiped out that little alchemist-guild in King's Landing and this is a thousand times bigger.
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No wait, that was Lanna.

I'm starting to mix up the PCs I once had hopes of coexisting with.
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Every single one of these people you bring up had ample opportunity to come to us and convince us of what was needed for coexistence to be possible, if it seemed on the face of it our terms would likely be untenable.

They were all too afraid of the big bad dragon (who consistently kept his word even when dealing with his enemies directly).

In the ineffable words of the philosopher, Descartes: "Fuck 'em."
 
There is no way in which Danielle isn't absolutely and firmly in the "Fuck Viserys" category. We let loose a nuclear bomb in the backyard of one of her sponsors and killed almost all of them.

Edit: If you really wanted to go all "Conspiracy theory" then she could come to the conclusion that we moved her off the board so that she wouldn't do something to stop us. Of course, we would actively cut through her without hesitation if she stood in our way but she doesn't know that.
 
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Azel said:
Is Lucan even still a thing? We haven't seen hide or hair of him since the Conclave.
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OOC he's not, IC he is.

This (3rd) month we voted on an MA to have the Inquisition scour Westeros for IC information on Lucan, so Viserys could get an IC idea at least close to the motivation-explanatory post you gave us some time ago.

Frankly, I see him as a waste of a good story, ruined by the thread's approach.
...Me in particular cosntantly vying for killing him back then was a part of it, yes.

But we can't just discard him and act like he's Aberi, either - he's too big for that sort of "fade into obscurity" IC.
We gotta go in, during the 4th month likely, and either talk it out, or fight it out.


And yeah, we just went and essentially backstabbed Danelle on all her good intentions.

Sure, she would've hated CoS winning at large and/or succeeding with their plan, but she really, really doesn't seem the type to approve of the Nuclear measures we took, nor the methods we approached axhirving the access to the said measures (unimaginable scale of blood sacrifice, and summoning incredibly risky amounts of Demons).
Not to mention all her allies/friends likely having a total fit, if not outright dying, right now.
 
The methods of murder involved in this strike were Drowning, Burning, Poison and Impaling. We wiped out 3 fey courts and forced one to flee.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 11, 2020 at 4:09 PM, finished with 97 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haggling
    -[X] You accept their implicit request to not force them into rash decisions, but there are some details that you would wish to be hashed out right now.
    --[X] There will be a ceasefire between their court and your realm, which includes a full cessation of hostilities, that your forces will not enter Feywild areas held by their court and their members will not venture into the Prime Material. Hostilities may resume later, but only after a formal declaration of war between you. You will swear mutual oaths to this effect.
    --[X] If they are truly interested in the plan to bring the former Lord into the Greendream, they have to hand over his body temporarily for examination by Bloodraven. The body will not be harmed or tampered with while in his care and after his examination is concluded, the body will be returned into their care or kept there until the integration process can be begun, assuming that an agreement has been reached before that point. In the case of resumed hostilities, you will return the body to their care before the state of war can go into effect. After the state of war has gone into effect, you will not make any guarantees about the body. You will swear mutual oaths to this effect.
    -[X] Long term, you are proposing the following arrangement, conditional on the examination of the former Lords body being favorable and that both sides are still willing to proceed with this plan once said examinations results are known to them.
    --[X] The body will become a Greenseer and be entombed beneath a Weirwood. For security purposes, you are proposing the great tree of Sorcerers Deep, but this is only a suggestion, not a requirement of yours.
    --[X] He and the court will swear fealty directly to Viserys.
    --[X] All other members of the court are free to renounce their oaths to the court when it becomes sworn to Viserys and instead either take an oath to leave the Prime Material for 100 years, or swear themselves to the Old Gods.
    -[X] While Bloodraven is at it to poke around with Greenseers, remind him that your offer to get him down from his throne still stands. Arrangements can be made. Sacrifices can be acquired.
    [X] Yes
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One Autumn Leaf said:
The methods of murder involved in this strike were Drowning, Burning, Poison and Impaling. We wiped out 3 fey courts and forced one to flee.
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Do you think we're going to get a new obscenity out of that? We had people swearing by "snake, tree, and sea" or something to that effect just having the gods around, this was a pretty big flex on their part.

Incidentally, I bet unambiguous proof of Burny cooperating with other gods is gong to do fun things to the red faith. Hopefully we won't need to manage that.
 
BronzeTongue said:
Do you think we're going to get a new obscenity out of that? We had people swearing by "snake, tree, and sea" or something to that effect just having the gods around, this was a pretty big flex on their part.

Incidentally, I bet unambiguous proof of Burny cooperating with other gods is gong to do fun things to the red faith. Hopefully we won't need to manage that.
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Ironically it's a step in the right direction. R'hllor touting himself as the one and only true god is a narrative we've been wanting to do away with, and him openly cooperating with three other Imperial Gods against the Court of Stars, and before that with even more gods against Tiamat, is a huge shift away from his current stance.
 
He will probably still demand his clergy to keep exclusive faith and keep only to his own rites, but might accept that he's part of a pantheon in the near future.
 
ryuan said:
He will probably still demand his clergy to keep exclusive faith and keep only to his own rites, but might accept that he's part of a pantheon in the near future.
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If we're going by his previous strategy, it would be to watch and wait, neither slapping down our heresies (since they might become useful heresies later on) or supporting them in the open so that if we crash and burn, he can pick up where he left off.
 
How funny would it have been if one of our allied gods' preferred method of execution was defenestration?

"How did the Gold Court meet its end?"

"They all fell to their deaths from the nearest window."

"Even those underground? What about those who could fly or Teleport?"

"Yes. Every last one of them."

"Huh."

"Don't think about it too hard. You'll just get a headache."
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 11, 2020 at 4:09 PM, finished with 97 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haggling
    -[X] You accept their implicit request to not force them into rash decisions, but there are some details that you would wish to be hashed out right now.
    --[X] There will be a ceasefire between their court and your realm, which includes a full cessation of hostilities, that your forces will not enter Feywild areas held by their court and their members will not venture into the Prime Material. Hostilities may resume later, but only after a formal declaration of war between you. You will swear mutual oaths to this effect.
    --[X] If they are truly interested in the plan to bring the former Lord into the Greendream, they have to hand over his body temporarily for examination by Bloodraven. The body will not be harmed or tampered with while in his care and after his examination is concluded, the body will be returned into their care or kept there until the integration process can be begun, assuming that an agreement has been reached before that point. In the case of resumed hostilities, you will return the body to their care before the state of war can go into effect. After the state of war has gone into effect, you will not make any guarantees about the body. You will swear mutual oaths to this effect.
    -[X] Long term, you are proposing the following arrangement, conditional on the examination of the former Lords body being favorable and that both sides are still willing to proceed with this plan once said examinations results are known to them.
    --[X] The body will become a Greenseer and be entombed beneath a Weirwood. For security purposes, you are proposing the great tree of Sorcerers Deep, but this is only a suggestion, not a requirement of yours.
    --[X] He and the court will swear fealty directly to Viserys.
    --[X] All other members of the court are free to renounce their oaths to the court when it becomes sworn to Viserys and instead either take an oath to leave the Prime Material for 100 years, or swear themselves to the Old Gods.
    -[X] While Bloodraven is at it to poke around with Greenseers, remind him that your offer to get him down from his throne still stands. Arrangements can be made. Sacrifices can be acquired.
    [X] Yes
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Part MMMDCXLVII: Through Smoke and Mist
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    • Through Smoke and Mist ​

    Thirteenth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

    A truce is swiftly agreed to with neither side entering the domain of the other while Bloodraven observes the Sleeping King, or as you suspect his shell filled with the will and power of the Green Court. Granted you have assumed as your domain 'the whole world under the sun', which speaks more to rhetorical flourish than fact, but then you did just begin and hopefully end a war with a singular act of sorcery. At Soft Strider's and Ser Dregaire's suggestion you also lay out a preliminary offer that implies fealty of the court to you, with individual fey able to choose instead to pledge to the Old Gods or swear not to enter the mortal world for a century.

    The offer is probably too harsh on the face of it, not least because you can hardly enforce the presence or absence of Green Court fey across the breadth of the world, but then it is only your first offer. One must leave some room for bargaining at least with those who can be bargained with, and you hope the Green Warden is one such.

    ***​

    Alas, news from other corners of the shattered Court make for a less pleasing hearing. Tyene and company have not even been able to find the former Demesne of the Golden Seer, much less his corpse or eye in what they can only assume is a final gambit to deny his slayers any greater reward from the deed. Finding seers who did not wish to be found upon the ever-shifting paths of the Feywild is not a task of days, but weeks or months. Bloodraven has even suggested that it might be a better idea to let them find you once it becomes clear that those former members of the Court of Stars who bend the knee will greatly benefit thereby.

    Speaking of fey who are of a mind to swear fealty, there is not much left of the erstwhile realm of the Crimson Blade, but of those who remain a surprising number are open to pledging fealty on the spot. That is not so say Waymar didn't get into five duels to the death for a start, but it's more surprising how many of the warriors decided to take the opposite route.

    1. 107 Bulabar Engineers
    2. 13 Greater Glitterhaunt Guard (Paladin of Freedom 5)
    3. 38 Lesser Glitterhaunt Guard (Warrior 5)
    4. 9 Lesser Veela Kineticists (Kineticist 5)

    Granted the realm's over a hundred and fifty new citizens did not come without a cost, not only in the gold and other amnesties promised to seal the deal, but also in the loss of both hunter constructs to an ambush by a seemingly friendly fey who was instead plotting vengeance for the fall of the court. You are thankful that between Benerro's healing and Lady Caleris' wishcraft no one else was lost.

    Lost 2x Vigilant Hunters

    Lost 188,1500 IM

    News from the Shield Isles are far grimmer, with Marwyn's divination confirming that he and his company will have to face a full Deep One Raid in force in what was once the mist-shrouded isle that is the echo of the Arbor. Between the new warstrider constructs, the dead krakens and other greater dead the odds look slightly in your favor, however those same divinations confirm that the Deep Ones do not intend to hold that corner of the Feywild as you had feared. So the question now presents itself, are the remains of the Orange Haze's domain worth getting into a true fight with the Deep Ones at this hour? Or as Ser Richard puts it, 'can you afford not to fight them' given how little you still know about the sorts of weapons they can bring to bear in a serious fight?

    Do you give the go ahead for the advance into former Orange Court's territory given what the divinations indicate?

    [] Yes, you need to claim what you can and the fight itself would be an important learning experience

    [] No, it's not worth the clash

    OOC: I wanted to keep rolling through this but the fight for the Misty Isle, even in the background, is going to require a clear head in the morning. On the plus side you got a lot of former Crimson fey to sign on, mostly engineers based on previous reputation in that field.
     
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