[X] Remove all three of them from King's Landing after Robert's death, they will be safer in your care from any fools who might try to curry favor with the heads of children

Man can only imagine the reactions of Cersei, the Small Council or just the people in Kingslanding in general when Cersei kills Robert but her kids are missing.
 
This is so impersonal, it's great. Ordering Robert assassinated is something we do casually at the end of a chapter about air bases, and we don't even bother to go give the order in person. We don't even send a Companion!
Meanwhile Robert is dreaming about a glorious boss battle :lol::rofl::lol::rofl:
 
If we have them brought over maybe make it out as a rescue by our followers.

Maybe while telling them that we may seek the crown but not even we would damn children without any true crimes to do so or something. Really get that rescue gratitude where it can be gained.
 
All of you are aware that you are kidnapping a few kids and will have to explain to them why they can't see their mother anymore, right?

Also, @DragonParadox:
1. We only want to make plans for Harrenhall right now. No actual construction work until we formally take it over during the invasion.
2. The coronation is scheduled for the end of next month, not this one.
 
This is so impersonal, it's great. Ordering Robert assassinated is something we do casually at the end of a chapter about air bases, and we don't even bother to go give the order in person. We don't even send a Companion!
Meanwhile Robert is dreaming about a glorious boss battle :lol::rofl::lol::rofl:

When having nightmares about monsters from beyond the veil of space and time eating the world Robert Baratheon tends to recede as a threat to matter how good he hits things with a hammer.
 
This Joffrey didn't get neglected another seven years into being an intolerable little shit. In fact, he's had opportunity for character growth, and lessons that didn't make you want to kill yourself or fall asleep for at least a year.

If I had to listen to Pycelle as my main instructor for 15-18 years and my only other influence would be mommy dearest Cersei..... And Bobbity B either ignoring him or treating him like shit.

When you think on it like that... How was he not even more screwed up.
 
All of you are aware that you are kidnapping a few kids and will have to explain to them why they can't see their mother anymore, right?

Also, @DragonParadox:
1. We only want to make plans for Harrenhall right now. No actual construction work until we formally take it over during the invasion.
2. The coronation is scheduled for the end of next month, not this one.

Does your mom is the fountain of evil in the universe and your dad isn't your dad count as explaining things?
 
All of you are aware that you are kidnapping a few kids and will have to explain to them why they can't see their mother anymore, right?

Also, @DragonParadox:
1. We only want to make plans for Harrenhall right now. No actual construction work until we formally take it over during the invasion.
2. The coronation is scheduled for the end of next month, not this one.

Oops sorry about that... fixing to just having a look at the place.
 
All of you are aware that you are kidnapping a few kids and will have to explain to them why they can't see their mother anymore, right?

Also, @DragonParadox:
1. We only want to make plans for Harrenhall right now. No actual construction work until we formally take it over during the invasion.
2. The coronation is scheduled for the end of next month, not this one.
This. It's also pretty damn trivial to assign guards for Cersei's bastards. We have minions who can stay unseen and intercept damn near anything that comes up.
 
@DragonParadox If we kidnap the kids, will Viserys meet them? Seems like the kinda thing he was planning on doing, since it seems kinda asshole-ish to decide their entire future lives for the next several decades at least without interacting with them a couple times beforehand.

One could at least establish a rapport first. I think we talked about settling Joffrey in Runestone (that's actually kind of a reward, the Royces would be great guardians and he will get a top-class education in Westerosi value system, and he will personally be the one most attached to his homeland given he's older). Tommen in Braavos (we could probably ask the Sealord to take him in as a ward for us, but failing that we could also have the Fairwinds or Uthero do it). And while Myrcella was suggested for Volantis, I'm partial to the idea of keeping her in Sorcerer's Deep instead. Guess it'll depend...
 
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Pieces in Motion

Third Day of the Third Month

Telling Clansmen to find a secluded valley is much like telling a woodsman to find a good game trail or a fisherman a good fishing spot. The answer comes in a form that if written down could make a book, each nook and cranny with its own chapter. Unsurprisingly, they are also quite taken with the darkenbeasts, being in their own way creatures of the Old Gods and beasts to be feared. The surprise is that the Darkenbeasts have taken to a few of them. If nothing else, any of them who take wing for the legion won't be causing trouble on the ground, but you suspect the drill instructors will be working and probably drinking overtime dealing with warriors of the high peaks and ridges.

The Dornish were no less swift to find the roost you asked for, a narrow gorge near High Hermitage that opens into a green spring watered vale that could fit a small town. The place could probably feed the Darkenbeast company on game alone, though the local lords are quick to offer sheep and cattle instead. An attack into the marches brings memories of old scores to settle aplenty.

By contrast, Harenhall is not found in the best of states by your engineers. Even without the specters and old evils, the marks of the keep's past are still clear upon it. It's not just the Kingspyre Tower and the Tower of Ghosts that threaten to collapse under the weight of neglect, but the Widow's Tower also.

The mage-smiths sent along to wield the Titan's Tools suspect that its curse might actually have been helping to preserve the ancient stones against the ravages of time, as a tombstone of sorts of Harren the Black. In its current state it might collapse in a matter of years. Fortunately, you have magic of your own to shore it up with.

Harenhall in worse condition than anticipated: Refitting slowed.

Later that day, you are surprised to hear the familiar whisper of silk and the firm knock upon the door. "Lady Melisandre," you nod. You had assumed she was preparing for the battle against Ymeri.

"I came to wish you luck, Your Grace... and apologize for not noticing the faults your engineers noted in Harenhall," she notes sincerely, you would judge.

"There is nothing to apologize for, my lady," you shake your head. "It's late master was distraction enough for anyone, and even were that not the case I would have no reason to assume you would be an architect or siege engineer to judge the quality of walls and towers."

"Then fare thee well and may His Light be upon you in your battles. I shall return before your coronation at month's end," the priestess proclaims with utter certainty before vanishing into shadow, though this time a swarm of dancing sparks linger in her wake.

That leaves one other thing to do. You reach out with a thread of thought to Bloodraven and ask of him a service as you have done twice before. "See Robert Baratheon dead by the hand of his Lannister Queen."

"And her bastards, it is likely to be utter chaos once he is dead. Given the state of the city, the eldest at least will be crowned or dead within the day, or even more likely both, one after the other."

What is to be the fate of Queen Cersei's bastards?

[] Varys should try to keep them alive but in play, give Cersei the chance to damage her position as much as possible

[] Remove all three of them from King's Landing after Robert's death, they will be safer in your care from any fools who might try to curry favor with the heads of children

[] Write in


OOC: The Harenhall thing was actually rolled at the time, one of the few notes from the action, but since Mel failed the check you guys would not know until someone took more of a look at it. Wasn't expecting it to be in the middle of the invasion. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
[X] Remove all three of them from King's Landing after Robert's death, they will be safer in your care from any fools who might try to curry favor with the heads of children
 
I'm not particularly invested, but I don't feel like making a mistake...
So imma offload the responsibility :V

[X] Azel

Bam, bitch move!
*dabs on them haterz*
 
But what about an eldritch Robert Baratheon eating the world?
The reddit BOBBY-B-BOT will finally gain true, mad sentience and destroy the Dragons!
@DragonParadox If we kidnap the kids, will Viserys meet them? Seems like the kinda thing he was planning on doing, since it seems kinda asshole-ish to decide their entire future lives for the next several decades at least without interacting with them a couple times beforehand.

One could at least establish a rapport first. I think we talked about settling Joffrey in Runestone (that's actually kind of a reward, the Royces would be great guardians and he will get a top-class education in Westerosi value system, and he will personally be the one most attached to his homeland given he's older). Tommen in Braavos (we could probably as the Sea Lord to take him in as a ward for us, but failing that we could also have the Fairwinds or Uthero do it). And while Myrcella was suggested for Volantis, I'm partial to the idea of keeping her in Sorcerer's Deep instead. Guess it'll depend...
I just can't imagine a way for those conversations to go well, even with Diplomancy. Maybe it's better not to put a face on all their problems until they've had some time to readjust to the new situation, especially if we don't want them to hate us forever and would prefer to "build a rapport" (whatever that means).
I mean, I personally think that our goal should be to convince them not to press any claims when they grow up, and not to try to stir up rebellion or something. IMO this is best achieved by making sure that they still have something to lose, by making sure that they don't grow up surrounded by Baratheon loyalist, and by making it clear that we'd personally stop any such rebellious effort. "Building a rapport" seems secondary.
 
[X] Remove all three of them from King's Landing after Robert's death, they will be safer in your care from any fools who might try to curry favor with the heads of children
-[X] Viserys will meet them at least a couple of times, he's not callous enough not to explain how little control over their lives they're going to have, but he'd rather they hate him than hate the rest of your family.
 
[X] Split them up after Roberts death:
-[X] Keep Joffrey in Kings Landing as he will be king and make sure he stays alive long enough for Cersei to mess things up even more then they already are.
-[X] Have Myrcella and Tommen brought to Casterly Rock for their safety, but abduct them on the way.
-[X] After this, during a meeting of the Small Council where Cersei, Jaime and Kevan Lannister are present, but not Joffrey or Pycelle, have Varys blow himself up to kill them all.
 
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[ ] Remove all three of them from King's Landing after Robert's death, they will be safer in your care from any fools who might try to curry favor with the heads of children
-[ ] Viserys will meet them at least a couple of times, he's not callous enough not to explain how little control over their lives they're going to have, but he'd rather they hate him than hate the rest of your family.

Joke vote insert: Then he offloads them on Stannis.

Changing vote to Azel because this way Joffrey might accidentally get offed somehow, anything can happen in King's Landing.

[X] Azel
 
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