There's quite some difference between murdering civilians on purpose and accepting civilian losses as part of military operations. Some civilians dying is pretty much inevitable when doing military operations in urban areas, no matter how precise your weapons or careful your targeting. That's why it's generally agreed that war is a bad thing to do.
 
There's quite some difference between murdering civilians on purpose and accepting civilian losses as part of military operations. Some civilians dying is pretty much inevitable when doing military operations in urban areas, no matter how precise your weapons or careful your targeting. That's why it's generally agreed that war is a bad thing to do.
The obvious intermediary step is "don't do military operations in urban areas that haven't been evacuated", "don't put military installations in urban areas at all" and "surrender when your army i reduced to hiding in a non-evacuated urban area".

This is a little impractical for Viserys right now, of course : his enemies aren't respecting any of these rules, so our urban areas get military installations for defense, etc.
 
Interlude DCCCLVIII: Battle of Smith's Sorrows, Part Six
Battle of Smith's Sorrows, Part Six

Twenty-Third of the Second Month 294 AC

There was something surreal Lya thought about floating above the battle field watching the armies of the dead march amid devouring mists while her other self, her other iteration, her other self was looking out over Sorcerer's Deep book discussing ethereal passages and arcane permutations still gripped in her hand. Contrary to what her friends might think and slyly jest of Lya could not actually read through anything. At least you will live through it no matter what happens, the soft but undeniable voice of fear whispered in her mind. She shook off the thought firmly, she might be able to survive this body's death in a more straightforward way than most but that did not mean she wanted to experience the pain of dying.

Here in the heart of the enemy host were gathered ironically enough not the powers of Sarnath where the Dead God had by all assumptions come to dwell but those of Gornath. A spectral plague of squeaking scurrying rats moved among the feet of warriors armed in crude iron. Of some had died already, to dragon fire and herald's magic, to the light of incarnate spirits in guise of cat and raven, even to a few spells conjured from Lya's own staff, but not enough, not near enough.

They were not just rats, she and Dany had gown more confident speaking among themselves from mind to mind. The souls that made up that twisted horde were much of what remained of the people of Gornath who perished in that final horrid siege, beyond despair at a king slain and prayers unanswered there had at the end been only hunger, the desperate need to see one more sunrise and that had itself bred desperate deeds. Lya could not claim to be shocked at the notion of the living eating the dead, not after what she had seen in Tyrosh among the Daemon worshipers and in the far North among those enthralled by the Others, but there was something particularly sickening about souls shattering like that, reduced to blind instinct and dim malice, stripped of their reason.

A mind was a wondrous thing, each eye seeing the world with subtle differences worthy of contemplation and of all that what did the Second Rising of Gornath make... blood and rats.

The enemy was growing close now, the crimson seeming to clot around the ragged wounds that fires had torn into it and make of hollow bones and empty skulls a thing far darker, the bloody visage of a city in ruin. A part of Lya, the part that was ever asking question of magic wondered what will animated these beings. Were they among the greter dead who had simply stood back perhaps beneath a glamor or were they truly some transformation of lesser horrors curdled into new and terrible life by the will that drove them all.

Alas that even eyes that could glimpse the warp and weft of magic could not pick out the truth among the haze of death magic.

Viserys it seemed had better luck from above: "The must is weakening and so are the rats, I can see a sorcerer hding among the throng greater than any other here. I think the rat king is pulling the strings even as Anu-Simung is pulling his. Be ready to counter any time magic..."

As Lya began to climb to have a better look at the Lord of Gornath, Dany interjected into the mental communion. "It looks like the rat king is the key here but he is also a misser, kill him and all his power will flow into the mist and the rats just as they come upon the legion."

"Yet trying to trap him leaves us with fewer options and more of a chance he'll slip away again,"
Lya countered as she caught sight of a hooded figure among the most wretched and rotting corpses well beyond the front lines. The last place she would have thought to look for the commander of the armies, for it seemed just one more common corpse exhumed to bury them in bodies, but Viserys' eyes had not deceived him. Looking closely she could see how the mist moved with him, though him.

How do you deal with the Rat King?

[] Kill him at once, the lines will hold

[] Try to sever the link and capture him

[] Write in


OOC: Sorry this took such an unreasonably long times guys. Not yet edited.
 
The obvious intermediary step is "don't do military operations in urban areas that haven't been evacuated", "don't put military installations in urban areas at all" and "surrender when your army i reduced to hiding in a non-evacuated urban area".

This is a little impractical for Viserys right now, of course : his enemies aren't respecting any of these rules, so our urban areas get military installations for defense, etc.
Eh. The only place that has a lot of military installations within the city is SD itself. Other then that, I think most of our training areas and bases are somewhat apart from the city itself, mostly for historic reasons. Westhaven for example is pretty much one giant military base with some civilians living nearby the harbor.

Which reminds me that we should maybe look into establishing more dedicated bases in Essos, which are apart from the training facilities. Then again, the air force is still small enough that it's not that urgent.
 
Hey, did the Vialesk plotline advance this month? We were told it would in this post, when Hermetia decided to go out and talk an angry mob into becoming a confused mass of smaller groups (which is a lot less noisy and a lot more likely to splinter). But we didn't see the consequences of this PR attack, or the results of Hermetia's investigation into who was behind it!
 
Battle of Smith's Sorrows, Part Six

Twenty-Third of the Second Month 294 AC

There was something surreal, Lya thought, about floating above the battle field watching the armies of the dead march amid devouring mists while her other self, her other iteration, was looking out over Sorcerer's Deep, a book discussing ethereal passages and arcane permutations still gripped in her hand. Contrary to what her friends might think and slyly jest, Lya could not actually read through anything. At least you will live through it no matter what happens, the soft but undeniable voice of fear whispered in her mind. She shook off the thought firmly, she might be able to survive this body's death in a more straightforward way than most, but that did not mean she wanted to experience the pain of dying.

Here in the heart of the enemy host were gathered, ironically enough not the powers of Sarnath where the Dead God had by all assumptions come to dwell, but those of Gornath. A spectral plague of squeaking scurrying rats moved among the feet of warriors armed in crude iron. Of course some had died already, to dragon fire and herald's magic, to the light of incarnate spirits in the guise of cat and raven, even to a few spells conjured from Lya's own staff, but not enough, not near enough.

They were not just rats, she and Dany had gown more confident speaking among themselves from mind to mind. The souls that made up that twisted horde were much of what remained of the people of Gornath who perished in that final horrid siege. Beyond despair at a king slain and prayers unanswered, there had at the end been only hunger, the desperate need to see one more sunrise, and that itself had bred desperate deeds. Lya could not claim to be shocked at the notion of the living eating the dead, not after what she had seen in Tyrosh among the Daemon worshipers and in the far North among those enthralled by the Others, but there was something particularly sickening about souls shattering like that, reduced to blind instinct and dim malice, stripped of their reason.

A mind was a wondrous thing, each eye seeing the world with subtle differences worthy of contemplation, and of all that what did the Second Rising of Gornath make... blood and rats.

The enemy was growing close now, the crimson seeming to clot around the ragged wounds that fires had torn into it and make of hollow bones and empty skulls a thing far darker, the bloody visage of a city in ruin. A part of Lya, the part that was ever asking question of magic, wondered what will animated these beings. Were they among the greater dead who had simply stood back, perhaps beneath a glamor, or were they truly some transformation of lesser horrors curdled into new and terrible life by the will that drove them all?

Alas that even eyes that could glimpse the warp and weft of magic could not pick out the truth among the haze of death magic.

Viserys, it seemed, had better luck from above: "The mist is weakening and so are the rats. I can see a sorcerer hiding among the throng greater than any other here. I think the Rat King is pulling the strings even as Anu-Simung is pulling his. Be ready to counter any time magic..."

As Lya began to climb to have a better look at the Lord of Gornath, Dany interjected into the mental communion. "It looks like the Rat King is the key here but he is also a miser. Kill him and all his power will flow into the mist and the rats just as they come upon the legion."

"Yet trying to trap him leaves us with fewer options and more of a chance he'll slip away again,"
Lya countered as she caught sight of a hooded figure among the most wretched and rotting corpses well beyond the front lines. The last place she would have thought to look for the commander of the armies, for it seemed just one more common corpse exhumed to bury them in bodies, but Viserys' eyes had not deceived him. Looking closely she could see how the mist moved with him, through him.

How do you deal with the Rat King?

[] Kill him at once, the lines will hold

[] Try to sever the link and capture him

[] Write in


OOC: Sorry this took such an unreasonably long times guys. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
Hey, did the Vialesk plotline advance this month? We were told it would in this post, when Hermetia decided to go out and talk an angry mob into becoming a confused mass of smaller groups (which is a lot less noisy and a lot more likely to splinter). But we didn't see the consequences of this PR attack, or the results of Hermetia's investigation into who was behind it!
That's an interlude series I'm hoping we'll see more of once we wrap up the fighting in Sarnor. Same with Qohor.

Lots of good stuff happening this month in other locales.
 
Eh. The only place that has a lot of military installations within the city is SD itself. Other then that, I think most of our training areas and bases are somewhat apart from the city itself, mostly for historic reasons. Westhaven for example is pretty much one giant military base with some civilians living nearby the harbor.

Which reminds me that we should maybe look into establishing more dedicated bases in Essos, which are apart from the training facilities. Then again, the air force is still small enough that it's not that urgent.
Maybe we pick some places on the map for military bases? They can have a much smaller maintenance bay for aircraft and hangers like we built in Sorcerer's Deep, and then some general administrative buildings surrounded by a modest (for us) stone fort. Could also count as the general headquarters for the regional Imperial Reservist garrison.

Though as you said, our air force isn't really big enough that it's an urgent concern.
 
@Goldfish What we should do is try to Wombo Combo him with a variety of effects. If we can do at least one thing successfully that turn which guarantees he won't be able to act (or at least cast), then that's another round where one person might successfully capture him.
 
[X] Kill him at once, the lines will hold
-[X] Dany will target him with a Dimensional Lock using Inspired Spell, while Viserys targets him with a Maximized Shadow of the Doom, and Lya and Tyene both target him with Sunburst spells. They all use Assay Spell Resistance. If the Rat King is destroyed, they will all reorient and move to destroy the Devouring Mists as quickly as possible, primarily using Sunburst spells where possible.
-[X] Nirah joins the battle, Teleporting himself, Yrael, and the four Guardian Nagas who had been with the Reserve forces. He will prepare to help blunt the attack from the remaining Undead and the Devouring Mist, along with the Heralds, Fiery Dragonbeasts, and Plant servitors who have not yet used their Sunburst SLAs.
--[X] Plant servitors will also use their Entangle SLAs to hinder and trap the approaching Undead. If the Devouring Mists are indeed physically linked to their corporeal fellows, slowing their advance will affect the Mists as well and give our forces more time to eliminate them.
 
Good night guys, sorry for the lack of a third update today, Windows has a tendency to get messed up at the worst times. Hopefully things will be less hectic tomorrow as we see more from the Dead God.
 
[X] Goldfish

I would like to nab the bastard so we could rake him over the coals for everything he's worth but he really has made capturing a bit too costly hasn't he.
 
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