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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
@DragonParadox Omber joined the Imperium, and I plan on getting them onto the sheet soon, but any word back from Saath? Or are they doing as I suspect and waiting for this thing with the undead to blow over? AFAIK they haven't even mentioned it, unless they were delaying talking about anything of substance with our diplomats for some reason.
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They are waiting to see if you all get eaten by their undead kinsmen or alternatively burn it all to the ground.
 
I like that one of the solutions proposed of dealing with Swarms is Wildfire flamethrowers...I can respect that. I wonder if we can make weapons that imitate a Dragon's Breath Attack.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
I like that one of the solutions proposed of dealing with Swarms is Wildfire flamethrowers...I can respect that. I wonder if we can make weapons that imitate a Dragon's Breath Attack.
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If we can make construct dragons with breathweapons (looking at you, Harbinger), we can isolate the breathweapon.

Wildfire flamethrowers are a go!
 
I suspect @DragonParadox would rule part of what makes a Breathweapon work is that it is uniquely tied to a draconic form.

No draco-form, no breathweapon. It's a partly conceptual effect.
 
Crake said:
I suspect @DragonParadox would rule part of what makes a Breathweapon work is that it is uniquely tied to a draconic form.

No draco-form, no breathweapon. It's a partly conceptual effect.
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A breath weapon is a supernatural weapon that works because of a dragon's arcane biology yes, you could try to grow some kind of draconic symbiot that can spit out a breath weapon on command but it's going to be pretty tricky if it is even viable.
 
DragonParadox said:
A breath weapon is a supernatural weapon that works because of a dragon's arcane biology yes, you could try to grow some kind of draconic symbiot that can spit out a breath weapon on command but it's going to be pretty tricky if it is even viable.
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What were those haphazard, experimental, probably-gonna-fry-the-person-using-it weapons that the Golden Company was using? We get any samples of those?
 
Crake said:
What were they? Haphazardly fleshforged SLA dispensers?

Fucking barbarian madmen... good thing we killed them all.
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They seemed to be either war beasts or testbeds for soldier enhancement

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 21, 2020 at 4:44 PM, finished with 62 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Viserys and Richard, along with those forces which are not assigned elsewhere, will accompany the Legions, vigilant for anymore unexpected threats. After all, our allies are but a Sending away.
    -[X] Try to establish the beginnings of camaraderie between the legion and the undead troops marching with them, and have Viserys establish a better relationship with their leadership.
    -[X] Viserys will walk among the troops, spend some time talking with them, and helping to keep morale high
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DragonParadox said:
but though the dead will remain dead, their bodies sent back for honorable burial
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Speaking of which, I was thinking about this, but can we have a military cemetery built in the background, for those who don't have prior arrangements, paid for by the State? And I was thinking @Goldfish could either make an item of Rest Eternal with a high caster level to keep the bodies from being brought back, or they could have every body cremated and the ashes interred. I guess it would depend on the cultural preference, though I would say subtle state propaganda heavily encourages the military to choose cremation, emulating Targaryen burial practices for those who die on the battlefield.

Just a nice bit of fluff... it would certainly be eyebrow raising for the world that we honor our Legion that much.
 
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Crake said:
Speaking of which, I was thinking about this, but can we have a military cemetery built in the background, for those who don't have prior arrangements, paid for by the State? And I was thinking @Goldfish could either make an item of Rest Eternal with a high caster level to keep the bodies from being brought back, or they could have every body cremated and the ashes interred. I guess it would depend on the cultural preference, though I would say subtle state propaganda heavily encourages the military to choose cremation, emulating Targaryen burial practices for those who die on the battlefield.

Just a nice bit of fluff... it would certainly be eyebrow raising for the world that we honor our Legion that much.
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Such an item with the minimum 7th caster level would cost 5,540 IM and one at Lya's current maximum Divine caster level of 17th would cost 12,740 IM.

If we had our 10th level Master Crafters make one at 10th caster level, it would cost 7,700 IM.

I wouldn't want to use Lya time for it, but minimum caster level is too low. The 10th caster level option is a nice middle ground, IMO. I can add it to this month's crafting schedule if ya'll want? Viserys would certainly have a good IC reason to place such an order.
 
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Goldfish said:
Such an item with the minimum 7th caster level would cost 5,290 IM (3,967.5 after discounts) and one at Lya's current maximum Divine caster level of 17th would cost 12,490 IM (9,367.5 after discounts).

If we had our 10th level Master Crafters make one at 10th caster level, it would cost 7,450 IM (5,587.5 after discounts).

I wouldn't want to use Lya time for it, but minimum caster level is too low. The 10th caster level option is a nice middle ground, IMO. I can add it to this month's crafting schedule if ya'll want? Viserys would certainly have a good IC reason to place such an order.
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We could probably purchase one at a higher caster level from the markets. The question is, is a DC of 21 proof against raising attempts, or would most determined necromancers likely to make the attempt not even be bothered?

I ask because a minor practitioner would be caught by the Inquisition in basically a hot minute, so there's little point unless it poses a serious deterrent to a threat that has the kind of balls it takes to desecrate the honored dead of the Legion.
 
Crake said:
We could probably purchase one at a higher caster level from the markets. The question is, is a DC of 21 proof against raising attempts, or would most determined necromancers likely to make the attempt not even be bothered?

I ask because a minor practitioner would be caught by the Inquisition in basically a hot minute, so there's little point unless it poses a serious deterrent to a threat that has the kind of balls it takes to desecrate the honored dead of the Legion.
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Yeah, a commissioned order would work, too. We could get one at 15th caster level for 22,100 IM.
 
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Goldfish said:
Yeah, a commissioned order would work, too. We could get one at 15th caster level for 21,600 IM.
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DC 26 is much better. If we suppose a mid-level necromancer tried to do it, and supposing that a good number of the Legion opted for cremation in their contracts there wouldn't be many to raise anyway, most of them would likely have a Wisdom bonus of 8 to 9. Which means they would need to be able to cast at least 7th Level spells in order to have a chance of bypassing it, and quite frankly if they are sending that kind of firepower to do something that is mostly just dirt in our eyes, they are welcome to it. We can prepare defenses for the cemetery to make it an utter pain in the ass if you have any ideas.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 21, 2020 at 4:44 PM, finished with 62 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Viserys and Richard, along with those forces which are not assigned elsewhere, will accompany the Legions, vigilant for anymore unexpected threats. After all, our allies are but a Sending away.
    -[X] Try to establish the beginnings of camaraderie between the legion and the undead troops marching with them, and have Viserys establish a better relationship with their leadership.
    -[X] Viserys will walk among the troops, spend some time talking with them, and helping to keep morale high
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Part MMMDXCIX: Taking Tea
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    • Taking Tea​

    Fourteenth Day of the Second Month 294 AC

    Though two armies march as allies down the road to Gornath they do not truly march together, one is of the living, the other of the dead, and once the danger is past they keep a bowshot's distance between them. Oh there are practical reasons invoked on the side of the Legion, mostly to do with the skittishness of horses, draft beasts in particular that make up the logistics of the column, but it does not take much to realize that the soldiers are every bit as uneasy as horses might be at the presence of the risen dead.

    For most it is the first time encountering such beings and for the handful who have some prior knowledge of wights and specters the experience is surely not good. Even among the officers the prevailing opinion for those of Sathar seems to be 'glad they are on our side, but not too close at our side.' An understandable position perhaps, but not a productive one.

    As evening falls at the end of a day of marching that would have left an army without the aid of sorcery broken with exhaustion you invite Ser Gerold and his war council to join you and Ser Richard to speak at length with Queen Namaaru of Sathar about the coming conflict, not just of common tactics and how best you might beat the challenges of battles to come, but of strategy, of the reasons to fight and how they might come to an end.

    Ser Richard unbends enough to give the older knight an encouraging look. "It's not the custom for the Sarnori to take weapons when speaking to royalty at least, so you won't have to worry about where you left them." He wisely forebears to mention that the weapons would not do much good against the queen regardless.

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    Unlike the ordered square of the legion camp, guarded by walls newly raised with Titan Tools, the dead have no need of any shelter to keep the wind and rain off, nor fire to warm the night, and so they wait, row upon motionless row for the dawn when their allies will march again. Yet the queen cannot stand in the field like a gold shrouded statue of elder days. There is a tent likely traded for months or years before you came to Sathar, Yi Tish silk dyed Tolosi yellow. Here still you find the giants with elephantine heads standing vigil as they did for the palace.

    Inside servants lay out tea in porcelain cups that seem too delicate to be any older than the tent, but by the mark of flowing maroon mongooses upon it you suspect they are older than even the Yellow Dynasty or the Fall of Sarnor. You wonder what Ser Gerold would say if you explained he is likely drinking from the queen's own grave goods.

    Queen Namaaru herself rises to greet you courteously, doing so with Ser Gerold and his officers also, each by proper rank. "It is pleasing to see that you were able to draw the poison of the rat from the veins of your soldiers in good time. Do you need further aid from us?"

    "No, your majesty, we have seen to the matter sufficiently by ward and caution, though there is much yet to discuss in the winder context of the battles to come."

    What kind of cooperation do you propose?

    [] Mixed mage circles, allowing the Sathari priests to focus on countering enemy mages while your sorcerers attack directly

    [] Mixed scouting with wyverns spotting for chariot probes

    [] Write in

    OOC: Not much of a vote unfortunately, but it's too late for me to roll the next engagement, so I decided to focus on more world building, including a bit from Yi Ti in the form of ancient porcelain.
     
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    • DragonParadox said:
    [] Mixed mage circles, allowing the Sathari priests to focus on countering enemy mages while your sorcerers attack directly
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    @DragonParadox, can we get the numbers here for the Sathari forces?

    How many mage-priests do the Sathari have and how strong are they?

    How strong is the queen herself and what's her class?

    How many intelligent undead do they have? How many chariots? How many special units? etc etc.

    We can plan better if we know what we've got to work with.
     
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