Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
I'm torn between Slaver's Bay and Qohor for the rest of this month. I guess we can wait to see what our infiltration group there finds before we decide for sure.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- United States
I don't think the Westerlands are worth our time. Not only are they mostly in Tywin's pocket, they're seriously not going to be happy with how we handle post conquest anyway. We may as well spend that time securing houses we actually have a chance with, like for example swaying the Marcher Lords like the Dondarrions so that we have total command of the mountain passes.
As for the rest of it, I believe we should focus on Qohor. There's already a shit ton of forces focused in Slaver's Bay who can do the work there just fine, and comparatively fewer for Qohor. We can help a lot more in an initial push against Shub Niggurath.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Post-Reconquest plans(Hah!) Shit to do:
[1] Illithids PoB-presense Total War.
[2] Efreeti war involvement and fortress-ritual
[3] Rina's Eidolon in Winterlands (timed).
[4] Slavers' Bay Total War.
------forseeable future-----
[5] Lollth shenanigans in underdark (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[6] Oilstone City (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[7] Warlocks of Quarth and their Eldritch bullshit.
[8] Valyrian cities expeditions/Snek Cities expeditions.
[9] Dealing with the 15th God of Valyria
---------unreasonably far future-------
[10] Dealing with Bloodstone Emperor and Yi-Ti in general
[11] Dealing with the state if Hellven.
[Bonus] Surviving the Ling Night, who knows when it'll come on this list.
Am I forgetting any of our "priorities" so far?
[1] Illithids PoB-presense Total War.
[2] Efreeti war involvement and fortress-ritual
[3] Rina's Eidolon in Winterlands (timed).
[4] Slavers' Bay Total War.
------forseeable future-----
[5] Lollth shenanigans in underdark (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[6] Oilstone City (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[7] Warlocks of Quarth and their Eldritch bullshit.
[8] Valyrian cities expeditions/Snek Cities expeditions.
[9] Dealing with the 15th God of Valyria
---------unreasonably far future-------
[10] Dealing with Bloodstone Emperor and Yi-Ti in general
[11] Dealing with the state if Hellven.
[Bonus] Surviving the Ling Night, who knows when it'll come on this list.
Am I forgetting any of our "priorities" so far?
- Location
- florida
plane of precious metals?Post-Reconquestplans(Hah!) Shit to do:
[1] Illithids PoB-presense Total War.
[2] Efreeti war involvement and fortress-ritual
[3] Rina's Eidolon in Winterlands (timed).
[4] Slavers' Bay Total War.
------forseeable future-----
[5] Lollth shenanigans in underdark (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[6] Oilstone City (Gogossos and Snek Port in potential danger)
[7] Warlocks of Quarth and their Eldritch bullshit.
[8] Valyrian cities expeditions/Snek Cities expeditions.
[9] Dealing with the 15th God of Valyria
---------unreasonably far future-------
[10] Dealing with Bloodstone Emperor and Yi-Ti in general
[11] Dealing with the state if Hellven.
[Bonus] Surviving the Ling Night, who knows when it'll come on this list.
Am I forgetting any of our "priorities" so far?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
I may have misremembered whom we were to diplomance, and sorry to the both of ya if so - but talk at Crake on any of Westerosimancing please.
I am wholeheartedly not-enough-shit-giving to not delegate to someone who seems like they know what they are doing with them.
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Personally, I see us either going to Slavers' Bay or diplomancing Marid hard, unless the info from Qohor is really shitty for us and the place cannot wait until the next month to be burned.
I'm not seeing us managing Illithids before the Reconquest unless we have Marids ally with us right about now.
They have way too many massive bases, and we have investigated way too little, to be able to afford to think otherwise, imo.
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- United States
With the Westerlands it's more that the lords of that region are fucked. Utterly fucked. They stood with Tywin, they still stand with Tywin, and for that they're going to pay. Not necessarily with their lives or their land, but they are not going to be fans of post conquest Westeros (see Lannisport becoming Greyport of all things). The diplomancing time is better spent on people we aren't going to be fucking over, especially with the clock ticking and so many other projects coming to a head.
Also more than that when it comes to diplomancing, Westeros as a whole is mostly done anyway. We could invade with what we've got now.
I see putting Viserys on Slaver's Bay this month as a waste of resources. We've already got a small army stationed there working on this. If they need extra firepower we're only a sending away.
The saying "too many chefs in the kitchen" applies here.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
Well, it's more of an infiltration action.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
While true logically, I don't see the Viserys-centric narrative letting us go on this one.
It is either months and months of massive Companion-involvement to slow the Devils down, or Viserys coming in and us sniffing out the leaders, from what "progress" we've seen in the 3 months so far.
I'd really like to be able to leave it a non-IC matter, too, ya know.
I just really doubt we can.
Well, Crake pinged at me not long ago saying we still have people to diplomance, and so I obligefully delegate.
I really have no clue myself as to judge whether we are done with them or not.
EDIT: Crake'D? But not really? Bah, wahtever.
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
What spell is soul trap? when I search for it I get trapTheSoul and a homebrew spell Soul_Trap if it's the homebrew spell then that work, but we don't exactly have access to the spell slots, to use 8th circle spells on every undead in the city.
The plan for how to sacrifice them is Spark of life and create soul gem, which is 2 3th circle spell, which mean we can just buy items to cast them, if Spark of life don't work on non-corporeal undeads, then we have to work out how to get them in the soul gems.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Depend on how many reagents the sacrifice plan generate, if it generate enough to pay for everyone to get something better than bronze, I see no reason they shouldn't get it.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
The Westerlands action has less to do with diplomacy (Egoo just assumes anything to do with Westeros is stuff he isn't interested in rather than reading into what I actually say) and more gathering information and removing some assets from the board, like the dragon riders/their mounts, and also unraveling the whole mind-enslavement thing Tywin did to a bunch of his bannermen for some added chaos just prior to the conquest.
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- United States
It's Asmodeus, dude. We're not going to be able to get around months and months of spending time countering him. Sending Viserys there is not a perfect solution, even narratively.
Spreading chaos and getting those dragons is nice, but that being said this is going to prompt Tywin to drastic action sooner rather than later. It'd be better to save this for immediately before we deploy the Legions.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
The thing is here, @DragonParadox has logically deduced from the Companions chosen that they will make very cautious plays as a compromise to choosing to gamble on something.
When we're on the scene, Viserys tends to sniff out opportunity, and then takes a big risky action, and turns it into one with mitigated risks which allows for quick progress.
The Companions aren't quite as good at improvising, though that's either down to poor luck not giving them the chance for @DragonParadox to show the Companions can improvise just as good as Viserys can, or Viserys is just so unusually good at improvising/bullshitting a plan into action that the qualitative difference is astounding.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Haha, we keep doing this to each other. We're on the same wavelength, my dude. I wanted to do it at the end of the month, just prior to the invasion. If something goes wrong, we can act immediately.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Since we are working out a way to turn people into warforged en mass, and warforged don't have children, should we consider making becoming a warforged something anyone with the money, can pay to be changed into? I know we don't want to spread mass immortality, but infertile immortals, who don't need to eat, and can live in far more varied environments than humans, aren't nearly as much of a problem.
I know I promised not to talk about mass immortality, until we have begun making dyson swarms, but warforged immortality seem far less problematic than normal immortality, so I wanted to at least consider it.
I know I promised not to talk about mass immortality, until we have begun making dyson swarms, but warforged immortality seem far less problematic than normal immortality, so I wanted to at least consider it.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
I would rather not. Immortality gives a person a lot of social, economic and even political power and influence just over a period of time.
It's not something you should just be able to buy. We are using it as a diplomatic bargaining chip here because there are few options in this case, and we can ameliorate the issues involved by retaining control of the process.
It's not something you should just be able to buy. We are using it as a diplomatic bargaining chip here because there are few options in this case, and we can ameliorate the issues involved by retaining control of the process.
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- United States
Granted, I also think we should let Tywin's drastic response be as public and visible as possible. Nothing helps out our legitimacy like stopping a fiendish incursion spread by our enemies.
I vastly prefer a mixture of Warforged and normal humans for the Sarnori. It's tech we've already got access to, and it's leagues better than then being undead.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
I would like to control how that plays out, though. Letting him slaughter a bunch of people can lead to some issues, one among them is that when fiends come out from under the leash, they can just teleport around freely and it takes months to dig them out.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
No offense, my man, but I'm not interested regardless if it is diplomancing, sabotaging, or a massive bloodbath of a war with thousands of sacrifices fed to our bloodthirsty gods.
Westeros just doesn't catch me narratively as a setting, whatever DP or Martin (I've tried reading the books, yes) did.
So, yeah, imma delegate whenever ya guys are planning that stuff
- Location
- Argentina
"Being undead sucks" is a matter of current magical understanding. Our research can surely make it far more bearable, and it might be cheaper than the whole warforged thing.
Also Tomb Kings for the win!
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
We could technically afford it, but I'm expecting most won't even be coherent enough to incarnate as a Warforged.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Ye also said "rather than reading into what I actually say", but whatever you are saying about Westeros is by definition of no interest, while the phrase implies that I'm just looking at the surface level and see diplomacy alone and bail out, yeah?