A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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The big concern is that the assembly work is used a lot for residential areas, which is what makes having the lyres for too long so dangerous. I wish this mechanic didn't exist at all but it is what it is.
Crake
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Ahmik - The Kobold Drummer
Sly Fingers - The Little Valyrian Keyboardist
Goldenleaf - The Child of the Forest Lead Vocalist
Darkscale - The Serpentfolk Lead Guitarist
Tide Lancer - The Triton Rhythm Guitarist
Scarbrand - The Minotaur Bassist, Supporting Vocalist
Genres: Dark Symphonic Doom/Power Metal Band
Sly Fingers - The Little Valyrian Keyboardist
Goldenleaf - The Child of the Forest Lead Vocalist
Darkscale - The Serpentfolk Lead Guitarist
Tide Lancer - The Triton Rhythm Guitarist
Scarbrand - The Minotaur Bassist, Supporting Vocalist
Genres: Dark Symphonic Doom/Power Metal Band
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Goldfish
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Tonight, on "Mirror into the Music": They rose to prominence by translating the stories of living legends into songs known throughout the Imperium, such as recounting the tale of Ser Richard Lonmouth and the week long battle in which he slaughtered 10,000 enemies...
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How obvious do we want to be about Tywin? Cause I don't think he has anything to protect him from Curse of Burning Sleep, so we could just light him on fire and be done with it.
We could also just give an Eriyes a fewPhase Arrows and have her shoot him full of poisoned projectiles in his sleep.
I'd prefer to use Vision of Doom and Undine's Curse to make him stop breathing and die in the middle of the night, but he probably wears a PfE or better item at all times, so that's a non starter. We can always use that tactic on any of our enemies who're uncooperative during the conquest, but we don't want them to be able to prove we killed.
We could also just give an Eriyes a fewPhase Arrows and have her shoot him full of poisoned projectiles in his sleep.
I'd prefer to use Vision of Doom and Undine's Curse to make him stop breathing and die in the middle of the night, but he probably wears a PfE or better item at all times, so that's a non starter. We can always use that tactic on any of our enemies who're uncooperative during the conquest, but we don't want them to be able to prove we killed.
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In regards to how Tywin actually dies, I've had my heart set on capturing him and then giving Oberyn permission to kill him however he wants.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Yeah, for me it was a toss-up between straight up disappearing him and letting Oberyn give him a gruesome death, or spitting on Tywin's legacy further by having him hung alongside regular, bog-standard war criminals in the aftermath of the second conquest via hanging. I can think of nothing better which would really get his goat.
And either way, dibs on his head. I wanted to dip it in molten gold ala Bittersteel and just keep it on our desk for the next thousand years.
And a thousand years later still be pointing at the skull and going "he didn't shit gold, but he bonded real well".
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His hollowed gilded skull can be a golden bed for Varys while we sit at our desk doing legislative work.
He's pretty petty as far as opponents go. It seems weird to make a prominent trophy out of him. A knickknack to lose in our proverbial garage? Sure. I mean, think about what going through the collection of "office worthy " trophies would be like if he's in the set.
Viserys: "and here's the archduke hide cloak, the dragon god slippers, the illithid ink well and a few other fun paperweights from various points in my career"
Generic Guest: " whose gilded skull is that?"
Viserys: " that old thing? It's some angry muggle from the western provinces who attacked my family before the spheres realigned. Twig I think his name was? Maybe Wynn? Honestly I just keep it around because it makes for a nice coffee mug"
We've killed actual pirate deck hands who fit into the collection better than he does. I like Crake's idea about just hanging him though.
Jack vile Ripper
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Hanging sounds good.
But I still want to erase his bloodline. Tweak their genes a little that they are unrecognizable from the Lannister blood.
There will be no blood of the lion.
But I still want to erase his bloodline. Tweak their genes a little that they are unrecognizable from the Lannister blood.
There will be no blood of the lion.
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I'm happy with eradicating the Lannister name and taking their lands. Casterly Rock is going to be an excellent Legion base.
I think we can just destroy it in the political sense and leave off there. We want to erase the legacy of a traitorous house, but just being related to him isn't a crime. Breaking the institution and spreading our whichever ones we don't execute for committing war crimes will be more than enough.
Jack vile Ripper
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I thought Theon is going to use it?
When Tywin wishes for his children to inherit the crown from our family's hand, he killed our kin (Aegon, poor Aegon). With just two Targaryen children, his desire to have control over Westeros is basically unopposed at the time.
I want him to experience it. To have your family culled. To purge their existence.
Sorry bud, this is something I won't budge. The line of Lann the Clever will end.
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While I doubt the thread will go on a blood rampage on all Lannister blood the Lannister name is done. Their Head committed a most egregious crime and the family will pay for it. Taking on the Lannister name after we are done with it is a crime worth executing someone over
Goldfish
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There are far too many people with Lannister blood to actually end the bloodline, not without resorting to cold-blooded slaughter which we're not going to commit. When we're done, however, there will be no Lannister name, no Lannister family, and no Lannister holdings. For all intents and purposes, the family will have ceased to exist. There will be one or more new families (re)established and a lot of marriages to non-Lannister families to subsume them into other bloodlines, along with a lot of outright disinheritance.
For a man like Tywin, that would equate to the utter ruination of his legacy. It will be a suitable punishment for the man, for it will be impossible for him to avoid acknowledging that it was under his leadership that the Lannisters ceased to be anything but a memory, an object lesson for hubris and greed.
And then we execute him.
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Crake
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By hanging. The punishment for common criminals.
Ironic, given Lann the Clever became a King by stealing a legacy, and Tywin destroyed a dynasty by trying to make the Lannisters Kings again... by stealing another throne.
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Theon is getting the city of Lannisport, to be renamed Greyport.
Vote closed.
Part MMMDLIX: A Dearth of Death, a Wealth of Taxes
A Dearth of Death, a Wealth of Taxes
Twenty Ninth Day of the First Month 294 AC
Ultimately the decision is not a hard one. While it is unfortunate from the perspective of your infiltration that the Gold Cloaks will have less power in King's Landing you have time to spare until the first legionary boots touches the shores of the Seven Kingdoms and the Three-Headed Dragon once more flies openly. Royal Garrison or Gold Cloaks you will deal with the gate guards one way or another, whereas Bloodraven's position on the Usurper's own Small Council is far too valuable to risk over this. Who knows, you might even profit from the tensions such a change will stir in the long run. For now you turn your gaze back to internal matters...
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"How did you find the Eastern Flatlands, General?" you ask the still somewhat worn general, the crimson of his cloak turned a shade darker by the dust of his past duties.
"Hot, sullen and full of idiots who need to see a dragon to believe just how hot things can get for them to stop flirting with treason," the general replies. "I think they got the idea in the end, but I would not be surprised if the robbers and would-be rebels move on to greener pastures. There's a lot of resentful magisters out there far from cities or the sea who think they aught to be kings of their own bloody fiefs and they resent us like bile under the tongue for taking away their slaves, and adding insult to injury by putting former slaves in the armor of the Legion that they have to sit up and respect."
"Some will learn to live with it... others won't," you conclude darkly. Thankfully there are other ways to curb the worst of their power than keeping a mailed fist on their shoulder.
"The new Tax Code?" he only half asks. "Aye, I've heard about it. You wouldn't believe how much I heard about it," he chuckles a little. "Some nights I'd wake up to Alinor muttering about it in her sleep. Must have done some good though. She finished it this month... well her and half the clerks in the realm and the bloody Sealord of Braavos." the general shakes his greying head. "Some days I can't believe we're here. Keep expecting to wake up back in Braavos with someone telling me I ran a fever. Only reason I don't give it more credence is that I'm no poet or song-smith to make up the sort of things we've been living these last few years."
| Enforce Martial Law in the Eastern Flatlands -> Success |
Speaking of Braavos, news from the Secret City is not all good. It will take another month until the local Scholarum branch is ready to receive its first hopeful initiates, as differences in training methods and norms for the conduct of arcane students have to be smoothed out, But Ser Gerold was not mistaken about the tax code...
The person who compiled it all into a single tome three feet square long and one foot thick in a cover of drake leather that could serve as a decent shield in a pinch must have been a Braavosi. It is the sort of humor one finds among the canals, particularly for the bankers and persons of means oft accused of being dour but which are in truth most often bidding their time to do something like... well this. Presentation aside the tax code is a marvel pf accounting, one might almost call it art if you did not think professors from the Academy of Fine Arts would protest long and loud about it. It sets down a clear accounting for taxes that must be paid to the Crown by everyone, from small farmers to what remains of the great latifundia, from vast merchant companies to local governments in all the myriad of forms they take.
It does not actually account for all local taxation, merely sets rules on what kind of local taxes can be imposed by the various lords and governors of the Empire. The sheer amount of rat-holes plugged is staggering. It is not only the royal coffers that will swell from local lords and cities no longer being able to replace lost tariffs with commensurate taxes in other places or other such tricks. The poorer and developing provinces will see less of an increase for the moment, but it is good that they are building their finances on a solid foundation.
| Imperial Tax Code (62/60) -> Complete |
| Establish Higher Learning Institution in Braavos (13/20) |
All Imperial Provinces with Wealth of 7+ Gain +1 Wealth from Tax Reform; All Provinces with wealth of 15+ gain +2 Wealth
Still, for all the tax code plugged the flaws of the patchwork of old laws and new you were functioning on before there remains the question of what philosophy of taxation to impose on the Imperium as a whole going forward.
What do you choose?
[] Flat Tax
[] Progressive Tax
[] Keep it Mixed
[] Write in
OOC: Right now you have a mix of flat and progressive taxation depending on local conditions, the product or service being taxed, etc... with a lot of tax loopholes plugged up, hence the across the board increase in wealth. It's not that there is more wealth in the economy, but that you can more easily tax it.
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You did but that was for imperial taxes, the reason why it is up to a vote again is to decide if you try to influence local government to also take on progressive taxation.