Gentlemen, and mainly our main political planners, I need to ask you:

Do we really need to take Westeros before finishing the free cities? I'm afraid of Qohor and Norvos blowing up in our face.

By the way, the political map has Norvos as part of the Imperium, for some reason.
 
...this is a very, very, very petty and stupid way to deal with our lack of sleep.

Couldn't we just... use Miracle to remove any debuff of it.
 
...this is a very, very, very petty and stupid way to deal with our lack of sleep.

Couldn't we just... use Miracle to remove any debuff of it.
I didn't say I wanted to do it; I was just curious if it was possible. I'm not sure if sleep deprivation manifests as anything other than fatigue/exhaustion in DnD, but I assume injecting copious amounts of performance enhancing positive energy is bad for your health.
 
Gentlemen, and mainly our main political planners, I need to ask you:

Do we really need to take Westeros before finishing the free cities? I'm afraid of Qohor and Norvos blowing up in our face.

By the way, the political map has Norvos as part of the Imperium, for some reason.
I agree greatly, but alas, Westeros is a shitshow that we pretty much deadlocked ourselves into doing the 3rd-4th months now.
Aside from telling lords stuff IC to prep for that period, it's also the point past which even uncle doesn't seem to be able to keep shit from boiling over.

Obvious solution:
Be an asshole.
Telefrag Robert - Don't give two shits about what North or any Lord thinks.
Don't give Lannsiters any signal, kill off all of their leadership via extreme application of Companion-force.
Kill Lucan if needed.
Once shit's dead, don't give any fucks about Westeros burning in the background, move on to Illithids, Eldritch horrors, Undead armies, etc.

Possibly turn LE as a result, but be secure in the knowledge that was the only way of the playerbase not getting a collective aneurism.
 
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I'm going to dig up the good anti-undead stuff. In the meantime, I have a question of dubious value.

Could Viserys theoretically skip his two hours of sleep a day using Soul of Light and a healing spell that gives at least 10hp? It allows such effects to reduce exhaustion to fatigue and remove fatigue outright, but I'm not sure who that works for everything related to sleeping. If he did paperwork or something with that watch spell from the big tree backing him he would still get his spell slots right?

Seems like the kind of thing that'd have consequences though.
There are several ways to mitigate or outright remove the penalties for lack of sleep, but I don't think we should try to use them, not when we're already cheating an extra six hours of functionality out of each day.
 
I didn't say I wanted to do it; I was just curious if it was possible. I'm not sure if sleep deprivation manifests as anything other than fatigue/exhaustion in DnD, but I assume injecting copious amounts of performance enhancing positive energy is bad for your health.

Anything is better than my half-baked attempt of using a 9th-Level Spell as a cure for sleep deprivation.
 
There are several ways to mitigate or outright remove the penalties for lack of sleep, but I don't think we should try to use them, not when we're already cheating an extra six hours of functionality out of each day.
There's a Mythic Path ability to stop needing sleep. On a meta level it's not a very good one since two extra hours per day don't particularly help us at all.

But from a ruler's stand point, two hours over the course of just a year is basically more than a month spent before on laying around doing nothing particularly productive aside from resting.
 
Current strategic priorities:
[Priority] defines how soon are we takin it on IC, [importance] defines how fucked are we if it festers.

[] Slavers's Bay - [current main priority, extreme importance], need to stop the (potential) ascension of Lady of Spears at any cost.
Prospects: establishing spy-networks, assassinating, stopping the influence of Asmodeus/Lady of Spears in any manner possible.
-- Viserys' involvement is necessary at this point to do anything of note. --

[] Reach Fey - [high priority, moderate importance], no direct confrontation vector is open to us yet.
Prospects: breaking their ritual; finding a way to force a confrontation on our terms.
-- Send researchers, learn more of individual factions - to better fight if subverting them on one another isn't possible.

[] the Isle of Leng - [low-to-moderate priority, high importance].
-- Big steaming pile of shit that needs taking down.
-- Full invasion protocols.

[] Illithids [low-to-moderate priority, extreme importance]: still no good data available for us, it is likely by now they will attack first, whatever we plan. And we lack a plan, anyway.
Prospects: Find information. Grow strength of aquatic forces, look for more allies.
-- Marid emirates could be partially swayed to support a war on Illithids -- needs Viserys and proof of the strength of both Illithid (need eliminating) and us (are worth supporting)

[] Efreeti [low priority, high importance]: War slowly houses against them, best choice is infiltrating them while we have the opportunity.
-- "The Grand Heist" dated away -- [undefined date].
--- Following it would be an attack on the City of Brass, fleet and WMDs alike.

-- Meanwhile, increase infiltration via Maelor's workshop -- send Companion.
-- Siduri, Amrelath, and Devil strike group perform high-value attacks in Sea of Fire.


[] Undead of Sallosh [high priority, moderate importance] - they are attacking our holdings.
-- Full-blown investigation
-- active Companion attention.
Expected outcome: WIping out the leaders of the Undead hordes in the Dothraki plains.


[] Black Goat of Q - [undefined importance, undefined priority] straight-up need more data
-- Investigate, sabotage
-- Gotta send an active Companion as a spy, with the build-up it got I recon nothing less will suffice.
Minimal acceptable involvement: destroying the Fleshforge, rendering it unusable for the enemy forces in the area.

[] Westeros overall [low priority, high importance]
-- Pretty much everyone of worth acquired, sans the North and the current plan disregards diplomancing it.
-- Focus on keeping the parts we subverted in order.

---MAs---
Personal
[] See Meraxes for Imperial Steel development
[] Trade the Ferryman for the Water Elemental-forging lore

Background
[] Keep an eye out for the Chosen of Stranger
-[] Actually talk to Chosen of Smith if the Stranger's doesn't appear by end of 3rd month.

[] Keep an eye for the renegade Faceless - possibly with a goal to eliminate.

---RAs---
[] Impetial Deity much needed
[] Anti-Psionic defenses much needed
[] Drow un-staffening and Faceless Poison promises fulfilled.

[deadlocked] A Baleful Mirage
-[ ] You have recently been forwarded a set of spell-scripts and samples by which the Efreeti have been made use of to manipulate the 'Grey Veil'. While this may be a technological dead end, studying it will prevent its usage from being as effective in the hands of your enemy and may even be of some use to your allies.
(Progress Cost: ??, Material Cost: ??)

[deadlocked] The psychological effects of repeated and sustained enchantment on the mental state and brain of the average person.
(Progress: ??, Cost: ??)

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Anything missed?
I'm not including stuff like Daemons, Drow, or whatever because we simply dont have the people to fuck those up, whatever we do. So we might as well consider those nonexistent until proven otherwise.
 
I agree greatly, but alas, Westeros is a shitshow that we pretty much deadlocked ourselves into doing the 3rd-4th months now.
Aside from telling lords stuff IC to prep for that period, it's also the point past which even uncle doesn't seem to be able to keep shit from boiling over.

Obvious solution:
Be an asshole.
Telefrag Robert.
Don't give two shits about what North thinks.
Don't give Lannsiters any signal, kill off all of their leadership via extreme application of Companion-force.Kill Lucan if needed.
Once shit's dead, don't give fucks about Westeros burning in the background, move on to Illithids, Eldritch horrors, Undead armies, etc.

Yeah, I just want to postpone everything a couple months more while we deal with the gestating eldritch beings in Norvos and Qohor.

By the way, don't we have an inquisition base in Norvos too?

The Inquisition reports success in establishing a foothold both in Lorath, newly a part of the Empire and Norvos, a target for mid-term expansion. Neither city has reported any alarming supernatural or other urgent threat, though there are certainly strange happenings aplenty in Norvos. At least the enormous chasm in the middle of the city does not seem to have opened up to Hell, or the Abyss, one weary inquisitor notes.

Establish Inquisition Base in Norvos (42/32)Establish Inquisition Base in Lorath (13/10)

I don't see it in the Imperium tab in the Accounting sheet (but I'm afraid to make modifications, has greatly extended since the last time I saw it)
 
@egoo

Turn Plan: The Rebuttal-ing

[] Slavers's Bay - [current main priority, extreme importance], need to stop the (potential) ascension of Lady of Spears at any cost.
Prospects: spy-networks, assassinating, stopping the influence of Asmodeus/Lady of Spears in any manner possible.
-- Viserys' involvement is necessary at this point to do anything of note. --

As a matter of fact, this does not require Viserys, besides making final decisions on how to deal with the last encounters, but it does require a full complement of Companions with all spell options available to them, so Dany or Lya would be necessary.

[] Reach Fey - [high priority, moderate importance], no direct confrontation vector is open to us yet.
Prospects: breaking their ritual; finding a way to force a confrontation on our terms.
-- Send researchers, learn more of individual factions - to better fight if subverting them on one another isn't possible.

You're not wrong, but we need to have some active presence here, moderately powerful enough to fight off an attack/deal with problems that arise, since we don't exist in a vacuum and the Fey are/will make moves next turn.

[] the Isle of Leng - [low-to-moderate priority, high importance].
-- Big steaming pile of shit that needs taking down.
-- Full invasion protocols.

We should coordinate with the Azure Emperor fully to deal with this, for a variety of reasons.

[] Illithids [low-to-moderate priority, extreme importance]: still no good data available for us, it is likely by now they will attack first, whatever we plan. And we lack a plan, anyway.
Prospects: Find information. Grow strength of aquatic forces, look for more allies.
-- Marid emirates could be partially swayed to support a war on Illithids -- needs Viserys and proof of the strength of both Illithid (need eliminating) and us (are worth supporting)

Yup. Continue prodding Hermetia's side of things and carefully dedicate a few more assets to pursuing our agenda/keeping political saboteurs from getting an advantage over us on Water.

[] Efreeti [low priority, high importance]: War slowly houses against them, best choice is infiltrating them while we have the opportunity.
-- "The Grand Heist" dated away -- [undefined date].
--- Following it would be an attack on the City of Brass, fleet and WMDs alike.

-- Meanwhile, increase infiltration via Maelor's workshop -- send Companion.
-- Siduri, Amrelath, and Devil strike group perform high-value attacks in Sea of Fire.


From a pacing standpoint alone, we need to find a way to delay this.

[] Undead of Sallosh [high priority, moderate importance] - they are attacking our holdings.
-- Full-blown investigation
-- active Companion attention.
Expected outcome: WIping out the leaders of the Undead hordes in the Dothraki plains.


Viserys should show up and just kill whatever is doing it quickly. We could get it done in a week if we don't care about loot and just bulldoze through whatever is doing it.

[] Black Goat of Q - [undefined importance, undefined priority] straight-up need more data
-- Investigate, sabotage
-- Gotta send an active Companion as a spy, with the build-up it got I recon nothing less will suffice.
Minimal acceptable involvement: destroying the Fleshforge, rendering it unusable for the enemy forces in the area.

That callous plan to ignore Westeros? It's not practical, but we could probably essentially do that with Qohor. Just kill everything capable of opposing us since we suspect/know it to be tainted by the Black Goat from Outer Space, and then burn down half the forest of Qohor, and then besides provide humanitarian aid to the civilians, ignore it for half a year.

[] Westeros overall [low priority, high importance]
-- Pretty much everyone of worth acquired, sans the North and the current plan disregards diplomancing it.
-- Focus on keeping the parts we subverted in order.

Doing the best we can.

---MAs---
Personal
[] See Meraxes for Imperial Steel development
[] Trade the Ferryman for the Water Elemental-forging lore

Background
[] Keep an eye out for the Chosen of Stranger
-[] Actually talk to Chosen of Smith if the Stranger's doesn't appear by end of 3rd month.

[] Keep an eye for the renegade Faceless - possibly with a goal to eliminate.

---RAs---
[] Impetial Deity much needed

You're not wrong, but we're several tiers away from even having an inkling of what it will look like. If this doesn't take most of a year, just to lay the groundwork, I will eat my hat. Thus nothing we plan on doing in a year should hinge on it.

[] Anti-Psionic defenses much needed

Yep. We can trade more forces on Elysium for experts, perhaps.

[] Drow un-staffening and Faceless Poison promises fulfilled.

Sure, this sounds fun for both us and @DragonParadox.

[deadlocked] A Baleful Mirage
-[ ] You have recently been forwarded a set of spell-scripts and samples by which the Efreeti have been made use of to manipulate the 'Grey Veil'. While this may be a technological dead end, studying it will prevent its usage from being as effective in the hands of your enemy and may even be of some use to your allies.
(Progress Cost: ??, Material Cost: ??)

Thanks you for remembering.

[deadlocked] The psychological effects of repeated and sustained enchantment on the mental state and brain of the average person.
(Progress: ??, Cost: ??)

Same.
 
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It's been noted down in the actual Turn Plan template for mechanical purposes, I just forgot to add it to the Realm sheet.

Okay, I just wish I had the time to regularly check everything out for inconsistencies at this point. There are some bound to happen from time to time and I'm pedant enough to find them.
 
I'm going to dig up the good anti-undead stuff. In the meantime, I have a question of dubious value.

Could Viserys theoretically skip his two hours of sleep a day using Soul of Light and a healing spell that gives at least 10hp? It allows such effects to reduce exhaustion to fatigue and remove fatigue outright, but I'm not sure who that works for everything related to sleeping. If he did paperwork or something with that watch spell from the big tree backing him he would still get his spell slots right?

Seems like the kind of thing that'd have consequences though.
He has to sleep and dream to restock his spells.
 
We should coordinate with the Azure Emperor fully to deal with this, for a variety of reasons.
Honestly, for this particular case the Yellow Emperor seems like the better bet.

Mortal troops and ships will not be that helpful for nightmares and madness made flesh.
The guy who can send high-level mages to interplanar auctions for soulcrafting-lore is much more relevant.
 
Honestly, for this particular case the Yellow Emperor seems like the better bet.

Mortal troops and ships will not be that helpful for nightmares and madness made flesh.
The guy who can send high-level mages to interplanar auctions for soulcrafting-lore is much more relevant.

If he is not in tandem with the Squids.

Remember the King in Yellow
 
Honestly, for this particular case the Yellow Emperor seems like the better bet.

Mortal troops and ships will not be that helpful for nightmares and madness made flesh.
The guy who can send high-level mages to interplanar auctions for soulcrafting-lore is much more relevant.
That guy basically has 'shady' written all over him for anyone versed in Lovecraft.

From a meta standpoint this is basically just saying "reveal yet another threat in the region we will have to personally deal with since no one else is equipped to do so".

From an IC standpoint you are... mostly correct. We don't know all the assets the Azure Throne has access to, they definitely have some PCs, and we would have the political clout to keep the region stable after the fact, and then they have the Kami support.

OTOH coordinating with Yellow, while a possibility, would require us to basically advertise we are willing to cooperate with people who claim our current trading partner's throne, the only one with access to reliable ports, that we don't really care about his legitimacy. Or we could convince Yellow to keep the whole thing underwraps. It would basically mean no military intervention though, just sending in PCs to burn out the problem and dealing with whatever fallout that entails (or specifically choosing not to deal with any fallout and letting the problem burn itself out once the firestarters are all taken care of).
 
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That callous plan to ignore Westeros? It's not practical, but we could probably essentially do that with Qohor. Just kill everything capable of opposing us since we suspect/know it to be tainted by the Black Goat from Outer Space, and then burn down half the forest of Qohor, and then besides provide humanitarian aid to the civilians, ignore it for half a year.
Pretty much what I advocated for a while now, aye.
I don't care for Westeros, big news - but overall I don't care about whichever part is going to be bigger headache to deal with.

I reckon we can take on Quohor right now... so we probably should.
Viserys should show up and just kill whatever is doing it quickly. We could get it done in a week if we don't care about loot and just bulldoze through whatever is doing it.
lo and behold, everything I've advocated for so long starts to seep through into being an actionable and sensible solution!... :o

You're not wrong, but we're several tiers away from even having an inkling of what it will look like. If this doesn't take most of a year, just to lay the groundwork, I will eat my hat. Thus nothing we plan on doing in a year should hinge on it.
It is a rather novel idea for the thread, but that DP seemingly has in mind at least 3-4 further tiers kinda tells us "ya have to continuously research it".
Ergo, it is in the list this way. It's pretty strategic as it goes.

And bee-tee-dubs, it's notreally "ignore westeros" so much as "be a dick and take over without much finesse so we can dedicate our forces to existential threats instead".
Little care for previous plans of letting Tywin run himself into the ground, or whatever, just focus on them as our main enemy from the get-go (they won't survive), cordone the Reach if by then we haven't dealt with the Fey, focus attention elsewhere.
Isn't great, devalues lots of diplomancing, but I feel like it's a viable option still.
 
From an IC standpoint you are... mostly correct. We don't know all the assets the Azure Throne has access to, they definitely have some PCs, and we would have the political clout to keep the region stable after the fact, and then they have the Kami support.

They at the very least have comparable numbers of low level mages as you, possibly many more. They never lost their arcane tradition and they have a population the size of all of Westeros put together.
 
And bee-tee-dubs, it's notreally "ignore westeros" so much as "be a dick and take over without much finesse so we can dedicate our forces to existential threats instead".
Little care for previous plans of letting Tywin run himself into the ground, or whatever, just focus on them as our main enemy from the get-go (they won't survive), cordone the Reach if by then we haven't dealt with the Fey, focus attention elsewhere.
Isn't great, devalues lots of diplomancing, but I feel like it's a viable option still.
This is impractical specifically because the Westerosi nobles are infamous in fanon, canon and this setting for being obstinate, obstructive little fucking shits who will be REALLY BUTTMAD if we do not put our full attention on Westeros during the re-taking of it, applying our finesse to mitigate issues and to deal with the people who will cause us problems down the line.

Many of our vassals would also take it as a betrayal of trust since we promised we would ensure a smooth transition specifically because we wanted to avert the specter of Dance levels of destruction and war on their lands.
 
They at the very least have comparable numbers of low level mages as you, possibly many more. They never lost their arcane tradition and they have a population the size of all of Westeros put together.
They have a population twice the size of Westeros (80 Million compared to 40). Yi Tish cities are big and the area is stupidly fertile.

It's just that Bu Gai only exerts reasonable control over like half of that.
 
How big is the island of Leng? And is it inhabited? Because Hammer of the Waters is something we can use right?

Edit: Nevermind I remember where it is now. Fuck we can't sink an island.
 
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