What I'm seeing in this, is that we need better large-scale explosives available for non-Viserys/Lya/Vee/Dany forces.
Wyldfire is a good start, but a bit too uncontrollable.

Is making large-scale vacuum an option with wind-controlling spells?
Comperssion of air back into place is fairly destructive on it's own, given the space is big enough, even if the targets don't need to breathe.
 
What I'm seeing in this, is that we need better large-scale explosives available for non-Viserys/Lya/Vee/Dany forces.
Wyldfire is a good start, but a bit too uncontrollable.

Is making large-scale vacuum an option with wind-controlling spells?
Comperssion of air back into place is fairly destructive on it's own, given the space is big enough, even if the targets don't need to breathe.

We need an on-demand Sphere of Annihilation vaccuum cleaner.
 
No, we haven't.
We'll be taking a point in it when we level up, I guess.

But overall, I feel like we probably shouldn't bother with this "re-read stuff for secrets".
These books are a time-sink of valuable on-screen time and even more valuable DP's off-screen roll-time.

We've had way too much pointless stuff thrown into the quest.
Me being the main contributor-
But, whatever, I'm trying to keep things tidy now.

I couldn't possibly disagree more.

You're being overzealous again egoo.

Scribe Bound enemies aren't some fluff piece, they're a state resource that will endure for a thousand years and more, nothing else so explicitly captures the totality of information you can get out of a creature.

Even Yss putting the knowledge into another vessel is not so complete and perfect in recollection.
 
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Fuck you, Yi-Ti.
"Blasphemy" they say. Bah!
:anger:

Yeah, all right, I have no interest in dealing with Orange and his people when they can't turn a blind eye to a gift of lore.


To be fair, the Qyburn's creations are really more of a "NE-powered Constructs", rather than the regular variety of the undead.

They are disposable, far more so than anything else we can grow in the forge.
Being mindless, we actually can assign meatshield-duty to them without moral problems.

iirc, we just don't have better choices to provide meatshield-effects to our infrastructure and people of importance.
We need something mindless, grown in great numbers for cheap, and effective at doing things all the while.
Soulforged Undead fit perfectly well.

Egoo, I just wanted to check that you were aware suicide is not actually a requirement of guard duty. Right?

All this "meatshield" referencing seems to imply you expect guards to die not out of necessity based on circumstance but as a matter of course.

Guard: Flee my Lord, I'll pin the fiery beast!

Lord: Steffon, that's my hearth, please get out of it.

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Act annoyed. This is how they accept help? They can fight their own Dark Gods next time, and hunt for their own Lore.

Act?
 
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Viserys would probably refuse to justify his rule on the basis of divine approval.

We tend to take a similar but different path.

Viserys: I haven't see any Divine objection.

Viserys: Are you guys okay with this?

The OG: Sure.
Merling King: No problem.
BigRed: Can't complain.
Weeping Lady: Such a sweet boy.
Yss: Hissss.

Viserys slyly breaking the 4th wall: And I'd better not.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 29, 2020 at 2:46 AM, finished with 77 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Retreat and interrogate the fiend
    -[X] Tyene will quickly set up one of the large explosive bombs (shown HERE) she carries in her Bag of Greed, along with 50 vials of Alchemist's Fire gathered from her fellows, in a location in the house which should hopefully insure its destruction upon detonation.
    -[X] Teana will use Mirage Arcana to fill the interior of the safehouse with the image of impenetrable darkness, as if it were under the effects of a Mage's Private Sanctum spell. This will last for up to 17 hours after the group's departure.
    --[X] She will leave one of her Shadow-Trace duplicates hidden in the safehouse when the group departs. It will detonate the bomb at the first sign of enemies entering the safehouse, or when the Mirage Arcana illusion is about to end, whichever comes first.
    ---[X] After the group relocates, Teana will use our Crystal Ball to keep the former safehouse under surveillance, at least until the bomb is detonated. She will also remain in mental communication with her Shadow-Trace that was left behind.
    [X] Wait here to capture any who may seek to recover him
    [X] That aquatic entity with the color of greed
 
Interlude DCCCX: Pawns and Hollow Castles
Pawns and Hollow Castles

Seventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

Bdellavritra, Mereth despised the oily pustules, not least because they were some of the few baatezu skillful enough to avoid her gaze and that of her sisters, but she would never deny the whisper-fiend's skill at deception nor their worth to the Lord of the Ninth. It was wise of the Lord Justice to order a full evacuation, though she was not entirely certain of the value of setting the place ablaze with alchemical fire. Most of her kin were inured to the flames of the Abyss and would not be harmed. If any would perish it would be the catspaws, mortals perhaps unknowing of who they had chosen to sup with.

"Fire's a great way to cover your tracks," the alu demon noted from the other corner of the room, looking up from polishing her claws with what could only be deliberate nonchalance.

Mereth kept her expression deliberately neutral, showing none of the annoyance at being read by the demon get. "And the concussive force and collapsing stonework might prove inconvenient for some of the beings they would send after us." She was certainly not willing to wager a half-hour's guard shift on that actually happening given that Aradia would have known the scope of their presence in Meereen. Haste had made fools of greater minds before, her former lord not least among them.

"But you still regret we are going to blow this place up?" Azema prodded as was her kindred's wont. "Like the look of it?"

"Faintly," she answered the first question, but not the second, and did not elaborate. This time the tanar'ri took the hint.

The truth, which she had no intention of speaking aloud, was that she had some faint sympathy for the Unsullied. Slaves to uncaring masters, gears in the mechanism of their own enslavement, as close as crude mortal means could get to the bindings that had once constrained her, yet they had not chosen to walk into the dark with their eyes open as Mereth and her sisters had done. She was suddenly very glad it was the erstwhile demon who stood in her company and not Yrael. What the steel-winged archon might have guessed from her expression she did not wish to imagine.

***​

Teana grabbed hold of the table's edge to steady herself as the crystal ball before her filled with the echo of distant flames. It was never pleasant looking through a shadow-trace, made worse this time by the vertigo of seeing the scene through both its senses and the diviner's focus. "It's done, didn't kill anyone though. I triggered it just before the Unsullied broke down the door."

"Why?" Aradia asked sharply, still looking for her pound of flesh for the violation the devil had wrought upon her most likely.

"Because there were no devils in the group other than a pair of imps flying along unseen, but the person commanding them was Izdril zo Yherizan, Head of the House. Someone had persuaded him to dress more plainly than his station as well."

"So they divined it was a trap..." Malarys began.

"Guessed," Lady Sandviper interjected. "They couldn't divine shit, the worm was warded against divination even if the spell has a hole in it for the fiends to exploit."

"Guessed," the Lord Justice corrected smoothly. "And they decided to send us a proverbial sacrificial goat, the young head of what we can now assume is a neutral family, or at least one that is not so tangled in Baator's plots that he would suit them better as a dead martyr than a living head of House."

"Well we still have our prize, now we just need to figure out how to get answers out of its, er... heads without triggering some contingency," Tyene says. "Do you want to handle it or should I?"

How do you interrogate the belier devil?

[] Write in

OOC: I don't usually do break points like this, but given that you are looking to interrogate a devil that holds at least some of the secrets you have been chasing for two months it seems appropriate.
 
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Huh, Christmas comes early...

Also—
The truth, which she had no intention of speaking aloud was that she had some faint sympathy for the Unsullied, slaves to uncaring masters, gears in the mechanism of their own enslavement, as close as crude mortal means could get to the bindings that had once constrained her, yet they had not chosen to walk into the dark with their eyes open as Mereth and her sisters had done. She was suddenly very glad it was the erstwhile demon who stood in her company and not Yrael. What the steel-winged archon might have guessed from her expression she did not wish to imagine.

D'aww, she actually cared.
 
So how do we do this without it attempting to possess someone again? Do we have the means to book it with us?
 
Give it a bath?

I admit torturing the fel beings of the lower planes is probably the realm of Azel's or Goldfish's knowledge more than mine, but I'm just assuming something that gross avoids soap by intention and possibly lethal consequences.

You know you might be onto something. . .

Servitor! I require three— no, make it five barrels of Celestial Tears and a touch of the Mother's Holy Bathwater. Mix it in a container, let it bubble for exactly 5 minutes and deposit that Chlamydia-look-a-like abomination and close the lid.

Let's see if it could withstand my mighty [Hero Clean]!
 
Give it a bath?

I admit torturing the fel beings of the lower planes is probably the realm of Azel's or Goldfish's knowledge more than mine, but I'm just assuming something that gross avoids soap by intention and possibly lethal consequences.
You know you might be onto something. . .

Servitor! I require three— no, make it five barrels of Celestial Tears and a touch of the Mother's Holy Bathwater. Mix it in a container, let it bubble for exactly 5 minutes and deposit that Chlamydia-look-a-like abomination and close the lid.

Let's see if it could withstand my mighty [Hero Clean]!

Get the rubber duck also. It would be very dreaded by a being like this once they understand what it means.
(yes, we don't have rubber yet, but it is more fitting than a wooden duck.)
 
@DragonParadox, this assumes the party cannot travel to the Snare for the interrogation. If they are, they'll need help from Viserys or Lya to access it due to the physical security precautions requiring certain spells to bypass.

[X] Plan Team Effort
-[X] Wherever the group chooses to set up for the interrogation, they will use a Mage's Private Sanctum spell to obscure the location, then use a Lya's Magnificent Mansion scroll to generate a temporary extradimensional space in which to work.
-[X] In preparation for releasing the Belier from Malarys' Sacramental Seal for interrogation, everyone present buffs up as normal, including Tyene, Malarys, and Teana casting Battlemagic Perception spells on themselves. Tyene and Malarys also activate their Beads of Karma to increase their caster level by +4. All three of them will use their Rings of Spell-Battle and Battlemagic Perception spells to Counterspell anything the Belier tries to cast upon being released from the Seal.
--[X] If the Snare is used, skip to the "Upon the Belier's release" section.
-[X] Before releasing the Belier, Malarys casts Summon Monster VIII to Summon a Barbed Devil and Teana sacrifices two 7th level spell slots to Summon a Shedu and a Movanic Deva. All three of them will aid Mereth and Liomond in physically restraining the Belier until it is properly subdued. Violently, if necessary.
-[X] Upon the Belier's release:
--[X] Tyene targets it with her Quickened Chains of Light (DC 24 Reflex save) spell as a Swift Action. If this fails, she casts it again as a Standard Action.
--[X] Teana casts Assay Spell Resistance and targets it with a Solid Shadows modified Greater Shadow Enchantment spell Heightened to 7th level to duplicate a Feeblemind spell (100% real, DC 37 Will save) spell.
--[X] Malarys casts Assay Spell Resistance and uses the Fate-Breaker's Runestaff (sacrificing his prepared Dictum spell) to target it with a Greater Bestow Curse (DC 26 Will save) spell to reduce its Wisdom attribute to 1.
-[X] Once the Belier has been subdued, Malarys and Tyene will use their Brain Spider spells to sift through it mind, extracting all useful information.
 
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