Remove ads

A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Reader mode
Tomcost said:
It makes sense, excluding the fact that there is no reason why stacking stones would stop working for the First men once they couldn't shoot lightning. Magic made wards, it wasn't the way they built (hence why we don't see Stone Shaped castles). I mean, magicless Andals could be better artisans, but I don't think that they actually needed them to build, right?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Correct, magic makes things easier, it doesn't mean you don't learn enough about stonework to make big-ass, complex structures. You may make fewer of them, but you will still have competent and complex stone work.
 
Vote closed.

Had as headache again, but I think I can manage one more update before going to bed.
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on May 19, 2020 at 2:43 PM, finished with 45 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Plan All The Little Things
    -[X] The court of Kings Landing
    --[X] General information about recent events and trends.
    --[X] Rough accounting of which lords are still at court and thus likely loyal to the Usurper.
    --[X] Current members of the Kingsguard with how likely they are to stand their ground, flee or surrender when you were to attack the keep with a commando force.
    --[X] Recent activities of Cersei in particular.
    --[X] The state of the royal coffers and Baelish activities, particularly if he is still doing as the "Ghiscari" want.
    --[X] State, location, orders and special equipment of the Royal Fleet.
    --[X] Any information on anti-air capabilities of Kings Landing, should such exist at all.
    -[X] The Westerlands
    --[X] Everything he knows about Tywins current activities.
    --[X] Everything on the Golden Shields, their number, order of battle, current deployments and so on.
    --[X] A short overview of the current situation between Tywin, Cersei and Robert, especially in regards to the legitimacy of Robert in the eyes of the wider realm.
    --[X] All he knows about their dragons. Location, deployments, riders and so on.
    --[X] All he knows about potential dissent or defectors in the Westerlands.
    --[X] At this point, it should be noted that it would be nice if he can keep us updated on the location of Gregor Clegane and Armory Lorch over the usual channels, since the time is approaching to make a lot of people very happy.
    -[X] The Vale
    --[X] Current situation of the Arryns, in particular the succession of the old Falcon.
    --[X] His current plans with and the status of the Mountain Clans.
    ---[X] Also have someone fetch the report from Dalla on the activities of Brynden Tully while we are at it.
    -[X] The North
    --[X] Status of his little plots with the youngest Stark daughter and his opinion on the likely actions of Eddard when the restoration begins.
    --[X] Update on his observations about the Wildling situation in the aftermath of our little expedition.
    --[X] Also ask him how the scoreboard looks and how many free moves we got him with those stunts.
    --[X] If he finished dragging up lore about the construction of the Wall from the Greendream, in particular information that would be relevant to attempts to deploy crew mounted, enchanted weaponry on it.
    -[X] The Reach
    --[X] The matter of the Rowans and his plots in regards to their daughter.
    --[X] Any other pertinent information he has gathered on the Court of Stars and their current plans, especially in regards to the Tyrells and the crown.
    -[X] Westeros in general
    --[X] General military information:
    ---[X] Where are our enemies building strongholds?
    ---[X] Are troops gathering anywhere and how fast could given areas and lords mobilize?
    ---[X] Any minor threats he never bother us with, but which should be squashed before the big day?
    ---[X] Any targets of opportunity we could take off the board without escalating too early?
    --[X] Faith situation:
    ---[X] How is the mood of the grumpy old bastards he is hooked up to?
    ---[X] Any signs of the Seven acting?
    ---[X] Any activities from the Drowned God or other actors?
    [X] Azel b
Click to expand...
 
Inserted tally
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on May 19, 2020 at 2:43 PM, finished with 45 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Plan All The Little Things
    -[X] The court of Kings Landing
    --[X] General information about recent events and trends.
    --[X] Rough accounting of which lords are still at court and thus likely loyal to the Usurper.
    --[X] Current members of the Kingsguard with how likely they are to stand their ground, flee or surrender when you were to attack the keep with a commando force.
    --[X] Recent activities of Cersei in particular.
    --[X] The state of the royal coffers and Baelish activities, particularly if he is still doing as the "Ghiscari" want.
    --[X] State, location, orders and special equipment of the Royal Fleet.
    --[X] Any information on anti-air capabilities of Kings Landing, should such exist at all.
    -[X] The Westerlands
    --[X] Everything he knows about Tywins current activities.
    --[X] Everything on the Golden Shields, their number, order of battle, current deployments and so on.
    --[X] A short overview of the current situation between Tywin, Cersei and Robert, especially in regards to the legitimacy of Robert in the eyes of the wider realm.
    --[X] All he knows about their dragons. Location, deployments, riders and so on.
    --[X] All he knows about potential dissent or defectors in the Westerlands.
    --[X] At this point, it should be noted that it would be nice if he can keep us updated on the location of Gregor Clegane and Armory Lorch over the usual channels, since the time is approaching to make a lot of people very happy.
    -[X] The Vale
    --[X] Current situation of the Arryns, in particular the succession of the old Falcon.
    --[X] His current plans with and the status of the Mountain Clans.
    ---[X] Also have someone fetch the report from Dalla on the activities of Brynden Tully while we are at it.
    -[X] The North
    --[X] Status of his little plots with the youngest Stark daughter and his opinion on the likely actions of Eddard when the restoration begins.
    --[X] Update on his observations about the Wildling situation in the aftermath of our little expedition.
    --[X] Also ask him how the scoreboard looks and how many free moves we got him with those stunts.
    --[X] If he finished dragging up lore about the construction of the Wall from the Greendream, in particular information that would be relevant to attempts to deploy crew mounted, enchanted weaponry on it.
    -[X] The Reach
    --[X] The matter of the Rowans and his plots in regards to their daughter.
    --[X] Any other pertinent information he has gathered on the Court of Stars and their current plans, especially in regards to the Tyrells and the crown.
    -[X] Westeros in general
    --[X] General military information:
    ---[X] Where are our enemies building strongholds?
    ---[X] Are troops gathering anywhere and how fast could given areas and lords mobilize?
    ---[X] Any minor threats he never bother us with, but which should be squashed before the big day?
    ---[X] Any targets of opportunity we could take off the board without escalating too early?
    --[X] Faith situation:
    ---[X] How is the mood of the grumpy old bastards he is hooked up to?
    ---[X] Any signs of the Seven acting?
    ---[X] Any activities from the Drowned God or other actors?
    [X] Azel b
Click to expand...
 
Remove ads
Part MMMDXI: A Distant Lordship
  • Threadmarks
    • A Distant Lordship ​

    Seventeenth Day of the First Month 294 AC

    Though you are certainly interested in the latest news from King's Landing, what the festering cauldron of the Usurper's Court has become and what defenses the city might have you choose to ask about his plans for House Rowan first. That is after all why you are even here. Unsurprisingly you discover that he did know of the dryad queen's parentage and her temperament, but his plan proves to be rather more complex than persuading Mathis Rowan to apostasy.

    "House Rowan could be an excellent showcase for the integration of the fey into the highborn families of the Seven Kingdoms in a very different way than the madness the Court of Stars seeks to inflict upon the Reach," Bloodraven explains. "The girl, Elinor, is quick witted, possessed of some small affinity with magic and under Dalla's tutelage has gained no small amount of skill conversing with the petty fey of the Vale, though she has no illusions about the ills the cruller of that kindred can breed. She also happens to look a touch like another girl dead many ages ago."

    "Chance?" you ask archly. It is no secret that certain features run in the blood of the old families of the Seven Kingdoms, but for Elinor to look like that long dead Rowan heir who was forced to wed an Andal 'knight' would take more than chance.

    "Perhaps there was a finger set upon the scales," Brynden Rivers gestures vaguely with a sort of deliberate idleness that fools no one, arcane rings glittering upon borrowed fingers. "The point remains that she would make an excellent Lady of Goldengrove, and for her age the dryad queen of Rowan's Rest would be willing to take on a guardianship of the House. The pride of such an elder being would not lightly bend to offering her fealty directly to a king in the mortal realm, but if she takes a position as a guardian of Goldengrove and then the House renews its vows that would be far more easily done."

    "I have fey sworn to me, uncle, even one who is a lady of her own fiefdom in the old lands of the Rhoynar," you point out. "It does not seem to me that such a complex arrangement is necessary."

    "Oh, not in all cases," he agrees at once. "Certainly not in lands only now won back from the wilds where man are scarce and there is little in the way of law or custom that you do not help shape. But in the Reach, given the coming of the Court of Stars, I feared too many deathless lords would win their power over men in the marriage bed, so I arranged for an alternative where I knew there was a lady of the faerie with a stake in the affairs of men. Spread the tale far and wide and such distant guardianship could become the norm rather than the exception, allowing Houses to take advantage of the knowledge of the fey without the resentment of a lord who will not die but only grows in wealth and power."

    "Why steal the girl away then?" you ask after a moment. "I am certain Dalla taught her all she would need to know to make a good impression upon her... ancestress, but surely there were other ways that did not pose the uncomfortable question of where she has been all this time."

    "In that case, Your Grace, I must confesses that your own achievements have outgrown my old plans. I had expected you to need to see her wed to a supporter in order to supplant Lord Mathis," he explains.

    Pride headier than wine suffuses you at the words, but you do not let it distract you for there is much yet to be spoken of this night.

    What do you ask next?

    [] Write in

    OOC: Did not feel like I could tackle KL politics at this hour so here's the Rowan situation. I've been planning this for a long time so there's nothing I risk messing up.
     
    Last edited:
  • Threadmarks
    • DragonParadox said:
    "The girl Elinor is quick witted, possessed of some small affinity with magic and under Dala's tutelage has gained no small amount of skill conversing with the petty fey of the Vale, though she has no illusions about the ills the cruller of that kindred can breed. She also happens to look a touch like another girl dead many ages ago."
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Speaking of the fey of the Vale, @DragonParadox, are the Redcaps still infesting the place or has Dalla managed to exterminate them?
     
    The issue with this method is that it might just kick ugly conflicts down the road and provide Reach nobility with pretty convenient way to gain a problematic amount of magical power that is entirely unregulated by Imperial institutions.

    I'm very much not a fan.
     
    Azel said:
    The issue with this method is that it might just kick ugly conflicts down the road and provide Reach nobility with pretty convenient way to gain a problematic amount of magical power that is entirely unregulated by Imperial institutions.

    I'm very much not a fan.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    I'm in agreement, someone will tire of our steady hand at the tiller and decide they want to pursue some agenda by means which we cannot contest or regulate. It is human nature. If you leave an obvious opening, it will obviously be used to get in. If you leave a subtle opening, a subtle person will not inform you about it.
     
    Azel said:
    The issue with this method is that it might just kick ugly conflicts down the road and provide Reach nobility with pretty convenient way to gain a problematic amount of magical power that is entirely unregulated by Imperial institutions.

    I'm very much not a fan.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Crake said:
    I'm in agreement, someone will tire of our steady hand at the tiller and decide they want to pursue some agenda by means which we cannot contest or regulate. It is human nature. If you leave an obvious opening, it will obviously be used to get in. If you leave a subtle opening, a subtle person will not inform you about it.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    We have to give Bloodraven credit, though. He was working on a figurative shoestring personnel budget and his plan was set in motion years ago, well before we grew to our current level of power and influence, not to mention started protecting our people with Mind Blanks. Times have changed, however, so adjustments will be needed.
     
    Crake said:
    I'm in agreement, someone will tire of our steady hand at the tiller and decide they want to pursue some agenda by means which we cannot contest or regulate. It is human nature. If you leave an obvious opening, it will obviously be used to get in. If you leave a subtle opening, a subtle person will not inform you about it.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    My main worry is that the Others exploit their remaining connection / relation to other Fey by stirring the pot and triggering what amounts to a Fey powered civil war in the Reach right in time for the Long Night.
    Which would be rather bad and make our earlier restraint shown by not burning half the place to the ground rather pointless.

    Either way:
    [X] Since Dana was already talked about, continue with the Vale.
     
    [X] The Vale
    --[X] Current situation of the Arryns, in particular the succession of the old Falcon.
    --[X] His current plans with and the status of the Mountain Clans.
    ---[X] Also have someone fetch the report from Dalla on the activities of Brynden Tully while we are at it.
     
    Goldfish said:
    We have to give Bloodraven credit, though. He was working on a figurative shoestring personnel budget and his plan was set in motion years ago, well before we grew to our current level of power and influence, not to mention started protecting our people with Mind Blanks. Times have changed, however, so adjustments will be needed.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Certainly. Plans are made to be adjusted after all and the board has drastically changed over the last few years.
    Just brought up my concerns for why we should rather ax this particular idea.

    Plainly put, we do have the power to muscle minor fey courts into obedience and enough of it to ensure that the larger ones have to come to the negotiating table unless they like ruling over large patches of toxic ash.
     
    [X] Plan All The Little Things - Part 2 - The Vale
    -[X] The court of Kings Landing
    --[X] General information about recent events and trends.
    --[X] Rough accounting of which lords are still at court and thus likely loyal to the Usurper.
    --[X] Current members of the Kingsguard with how likely they are to stand their ground, flee or surrender when you were to attack the keep with a commando force.
    --[X] Recent activities of Cersei in particular.
    --[X] The state of the royal coffers and Baelish activities, particularly if he is still doing as the "Ghiscari" want.
    --[X] State, location, orders and special equipment of the Royal Fleet.
    --[X] Any information on anti-air capabilities of Kings Landing, should such exist at all.
    --[X] Any information he has on the situation with the Valeryons would be helpful.
    -[X] The Westerlands
    --[X] Everything he knows about Tywins current activities.
    --[X] Everything on the Golden Shields, their number, order of battle, current deployments and so on.
    --[X] A short overview of the current situation between Tywin, Cersei and Robert, especially in regards to the legitimacy of Robert in the eyes of the wider realm.
    --[X] All he knows about their dragons. Location, deployments, riders and so on.
    --[X] All he knows about potential dissent or defectors in the Westerlands.
    --[X] At this point, it should be noted that it would be nice if he can keep us updated on the location of Gregor Clegane and Armory Lorch over the usual channels, since the time is approaching to make a lot of people very happy.
    -[X] The Vale
    --[X] Current situation of the Arryns, in particular the succession of the old Falcon.
    --[X] His current plans with and the status of the Mountain Clans.
    ---[X] Also have someone fetch the report from Dalla on the activities of Brynden Tully while we are at it.
    -[X] The North
    --[X] Status of his little plots with the youngest Stark daughter and his opinion on the likely actions of Eddard when the restoration begins.
    --[X] Update on his observations about the Wildling situation in the aftermath of our little expedition.
    --[X] Also ask him how the scoreboard looks and how many free moves we got him with those stunts.
    --[X] If he finished dragging up lore about the construction of the Wall from the Greendream, in particular information that would be relevant to attempts to deploy crew mounted, enchanted weaponry on it.
    -[X] The Reach
    --[X] The matter of the Rowans and his plots in regards to their daughter.
    --[X] Any other pertinent information he has gathered on the Court of Stars and their current plans, especially in regards to the Tyrells and the crown.
    -[X] Westeros in general
    --[X] General military information:
    ---[X] Where are our enemies building strongholds?
    ---[X] Are troops gathering anywhere and how fast could given areas and lords mobilize?
    ---[X] Any minor threats he never bother us with, but which should be squashed before the big day?
    ---[X] Any targets of opportunity we could take off the board without escalating too early?
    --[X] Faith situation:
    ---[X] How is the mood of the grumpy old bastards he is hooked up to?
    ---[X] Any signs of the Seven acting?
    ---[X] Any activities from the Drowned God or other actors?

    Decided to copy the whole vote, so we can still add things if something crops up.
     
    Last edited:
    Tomcost said:
    It makes sense, excluding the fact that there is no reason why stacking stones would stop working for the First men once they couldn't shoot lightning. Magic made wards, it wasn't the way they built (hence why we don't see Stone Shaped castles). I mean, magicless Andals could be better artisans, but I don't think that they actually needed them to build, right?
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Yeah stacking stones didn't stop working, but with the giants driven away or killed, and the Wargs being much less prominent, it suddenly became prohibitively expensive, the Giants great size and strength, and the Wargs ability to direct animals to assist in the building, probably took a huge part in the First Mens masonry principles, and once the Giants and Wargs were gone, working out how to stack 100 kilo stones, became far more of a challenge.

    First Men masonry, was probably heavily built around Warging and Giants, when they lost most of their access to that, their art became less useful.
     
    Last edited:
    On that note, in case it hasn't been clear from the direction my questions are taking, I'm angling towards beginning operations to prune the remnants of opposition beginning in the next month.

    Nothing overt. Just a ship or two going missing or an unfortunate accident here and there, if such opportunities crop up. Main focus would be reconnaissance flights and drawing up plans for the initial strikes to ensure we take out as many high-profile targets within the first hour of the war as possible.
     
    Azel said:
    On that note, in case it hasn't been clear from the direction my questions are taking, I'm angling towards beginning operations to prune the remnants of opposition beginning in the next month.

    Nothing overt. Just a ship or two going missing or an unfortunate accident here and there, if such opportunities crop up. Main focus would be reconnaissance flights and drawing up plans for the initial strikes to ensure we take out as many high-profile targets within the first hour of the war as possible.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    If you have any assassinations you would like to conduct, the next couple months would likely be the time to pull them off. Preferably we would make sure they are as deniable as possible and we only do it a couple times, as well as reserving them for the most troublesome targets, the ones that cannot be disposed of by unilateral decree, or whom leave behind political issues only compounded by their absence. I.E ones we can resolve opportunistically in our favor.
     
    Reader mode
    You must login or register to reply here.
    Remove ads
    Back
    Top