I would not want to be the fiend on the receiving end of that. We've got to exploit this in our inevitable next confrontation with Mammon.With Purity as a Legendary Weapon using that ability, and upgraded by Lya...
Doubling everything, it's 71 average damage against non-Evil Outsiders, plus 108 Impact, 102 Sonic and 102 Electricity damage, for a total of 383 average damage when using this ability combined with a channeled Lightning Lance.
Against Evil Outsiders that becomes 408 average damage.
On a Critical hit that becomes 766 for most anything else, and 816 versus Evil Outsiders.
Ssssooo yeah.
Waymar had a super move already.
So like any battle shounen anime, his super move just got an upgraded version of the original one.
With Purity as a Legendary Weapon using that ability, and upgraded by Lya...
Doubling everything, it's 71 average damage against non-Evil Outsiders, plus 108 Impact, 102 Sonic and 102 Electricity damage, for a total of 383 average damage when using this ability combined with a channeled Lightning Lance.
Against Evil Outsiders that becomes 408 average damage.
On a Critical hit that becomes 766 for most anything else, and 816 versus Evil Outsiders.
Ssssooo yeah.
Waymar had a super move already.
So like any battle shounen anime, his super move just got an upgraded version of the original one.
@Goldfish, for the Energy Conversion Mythic Ability, is it still possible to put the Born of Three Thunders ability into effect if the Lance is converted into Fire or Acid? I'm hoping yes.It might still be better for him to use against Others and their minions than Purity, but with the curse still in effect Purity is probably better for most other situations.
If Waymar learns the Energy Conversion Mythic ability, even if affected by the curse he could instead cast Fire or Acid Lances against the Others when using Mournblade.
I don't think the damage from the Lightning Lance, even if Channeled, would be doubled in that manner. Damage from Arcane Strike and Mage Strike, however, would be. Using a 4th level spell slot, that would be +8d4+8d6 in addition to Channeled spell damage and doubled weapon damage.With Purity as a Legendary Weapon using that ability, and upgraded by Lya...
Doubling everything, it's 71 average damage against non-Evil Outsiders, plus 108 Impact, 102 Sonic and 102 Electricity damage, for a total of 383 average damage when using this ability combined with a channeled Lightning Lance.
Against Evil Outsiders that becomes 408 average damage.
On a Critical hit that becomes 766 for most anything else, and 816 versus Evil Outsiders.
Ssssooo yeah.
Waymar had a super move already.
So like any battle shounen anime, his super move just got an upgraded version of the original one.
Ah, that's a shame. Alas for the cheese that was never meant to be.
Damn, that's a shame.I don't think the damage from the Lightning Lance, even if Channeled, would be doubled in that manner. Damage from Arcane Strike and Mage Strike, however, would be. Using a 4th level spell slot, that would be +8d4+8d6 in addition to Channeled spell damage and doubled weapon damage.
@DragonParadox, I have some questions on the Others in general if you wouldn't mind clarifying.
So the Others are all gestalt characters apparently. What class levels do they tend to take? What class levels did this one have? Was it Mythic?
And now that Waymar has fought and killed the first Other we've ever seen in person, do we have enough knowledge to guess at their racial abilities?
Doesn't their armor and weapon also give a bonus based on the same thing, due to the sword being apparently hard to track because it looks nearly invisible, and the armor also being sort of the same, making the Other appear translucent or actively camoflauged?
- You know a bit more, they are very high dex with what looks to be a lot of dodge based AC (though whether that was racial Waymar does not know)
Doesn't their armor and weapon also give a bonus based on the same thing, due to the sword being apparently hard to track because it looks nearly invisible, and the armor also being sort of the same, making the Other appear translucent or actively camoflauged?
Or does it just give the equivalent of a Blur effect?
Pretty damn tough for a one-on-one fight. It's his misfortune Waymar answered the challenge.Anyway vote closed.
- This one had 16 HD he was some kind of arcane class (probably sorcerer) melded with a pure martial class (not enough observed to be sure). He was not mythic
- You know a bit more, they are very high dex with what looks to be a lot of dodge based AC (though whether that was racial Waymar does not know)
There's also their ice blades shattering iron and steel, which Blue Ice doesn't do on its own. They've got a lot of great gear I want to loot one day.Doesn't their armor and weapon also give a bonus based on the same thing, due to the sword being apparently hard to track because it looks nearly invisible, and the armor also being sort of the same, making the Other appear translucent or actively camoflauged?
Or does it just give the equivalent of a Blur effect?
With Purity as a Legendary Weapon using that ability, and upgraded by Lya...
Doubling everything, it's 71 average damage against non-Evil Outsiders, plus 108 Impact, 102 Sonic and 102 Electricity damage, for a total of 383 average damage when using this ability combined with a channeled Lightning Lance.
Against Evil Outsiders that becomes 408 average damage.
On a Critical hit that becomes 766 for most anything else, and 816 versus Evil Outsiders.
Ssssooo yeah.
Waymar had a super move already.
So like any battle shounen anime, his super move just got an upgraded version of the original one.
It makes Waymar even more badass in canon, since he fought an extended duel with several Others.Waymar had true seeing all the way through the encounter, but yes he would not like to have to fight one with the added impairment of struggling to see where it or its weapon is.
While the Waymar of canon was certainly brave, that passage isn't him heroically holding them off. It's them toying with their pray like a cat toys with a mouse before the slaughter.It makes Waymar even more badass in canon, since he fought an extended duel with several Others.
Without the aid of True Seeing.
The Mage Strike arcana ability is intended for Pathfinder Maguses, which syncs up really well with Waymar's gishiness, and Legendary Weapon works well with it, too. It's very much a Mage Knight kind of setup.Well, looking at this fight, the spells I planned on permananecing onto our melees stop seeming "too much".
Wow.
I would've preferred to have Waymar be more of a knight in his "mage-knight" Mythic Path, but I dont really have the time to go through the system to try and slap something together.
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I cant get this image out of my head now@DragonParadox, if the blade locks away what the wearer believes to be their greatest strength, will a good enough roll of Autohypnosis allow one to have it lock away some other aspect of their being than the one it'll usually go for?