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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
I think Brynden could interrogate him. Brynden only said it was a bad idea to drag a goddamn Aspect of an Archduke into his sanctum, that's nothing compared to a single mortal conduit of divine power. He should have home field advantage there.

I'm not feeling the Yss thing.
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No, he said don't bring any Deep Ones, Devils, or Others. He didn't restrict the warning to Archdukes.
 
The "don't being powerful entities here" was very much telling us it's a case-by-case basis.

I'd rather throw him to Yss and get ourselves an Outisder-minion with his knowledge, instead of:
a) missing out on information, like the Uniila-books have concealed info we simply can't read for lack of relevant skills.
b) risking OGs coming into more of direct contact with Timmie so soon after the latest scramble. While we don't even know how they fared.

Yss gets us the full knowledge revealed, while possibly getting us something suitably awesome for the sacrifice, without any ambiguity on the "hey, we may have missed stuff because of his weird mind-effect"-front.

Draconic Outsider Snake, anyone? :V
 
egoo said:
The "don't being powerful entities here" was very much telling us it's a case-by-case basis.

I'd rather throw him to Yss and get ourselves an Outisder-minion with his knowledge, instead of:
a) missing out on information, like the Uniila-books have concealed info we simply can't read for lack of relevant skills.
b) risking OGs coming into more of direct contact with Timmie so soon after the latest scramble. While we don't even know how they fared.

Yss gets us the full knowledge revealed, while possibly getting us something suitably awesome for the sacrifice, without any ambiguity on the "hey, we may have missed stuff because of his weird mind-effect"-front.

Draconic Outsider Snake, anyone? :V
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Yss being able to put f!Aegon's knowledge into a new minion would be very convenient.

Also on the subject of Draconic Outsider Snakes, apparently there are Cobra Dragons in the Dragon Magazines. I've been considering them for a while now.
 
I had the time to go to work (got really lucky applying, woo! This'll probably nuke my daytime online hours for the next few months) and get a full workday in before DP got their internet back.
And that's just sad.
 
Takesis said:
So... we're seriously planning to toss an 8-9 year old kid to oblivion because it's convenient?
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Depicting him as nothing but a kid is dishonest at best. He is a cultist who has had a hand in the murder of hundreds if not thousands of innocents. You don't stay squeaky clean by getting to the eighth circle in Tiamat's service.
TalonofAnathrax said:
I had the time to go to work (got really lucky applying, woo! This'll probably nuke my daytime online hours for the next few months) and get a full workday in before DP got their internet back.
And that's just sad.
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Congrats on the job, @TalonofAnathrax! 👍
 
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Takesis said:
So... we're seriously planning to toss an 8-9 year old kid to oblivion because it's convenient?
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egoo be like:

[:V]

We cant mind-surgery him into a "before-tiamat" state (immoral to the point Dany was disgusted IC), we can't Unravel him (not willing), cant just ignore and leave in a bottle (has info we really need and is a security concern on par with, er, a particularly favored Archifiend's pet Balor or something)...

Sacrifice is really the one of very few solutions that won't have his soul go straight back to Tiamat.
Bargheats being the other, and, well.. not really even - they aren't thorough enough in eating the souls.


The talk here is just "how we get into out of his skull beforehand?".
And so far, there has been no better way than to Yss it out, really.

Practice shows that Booking is far from perfect if the bookified being's memories are jumbled/edited.

Uncle is a busy man, OGs are a raving crowd, and they arent... really... even guaranteed to succeed in pulling all the detail out of him.

I suppose we could sacrifice F!Aegon to the Ferryman instead, if the [Permadeath] aspect is overly important.
Does he offer some way to instill the memories we are interested in (all of them, really) into a less fudgged form than F!Aegon's mind currently is? Like Yss did for Shadow!Tor and the Forge-Snek?
@DragonParadox?
 
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  • [X] Plan Exploiting Psychosis For Dummies
    -[X] "My lord, the unparalleled Sultan of Brass wishes for nothing more then to see a scoundrel punished for vexing him. The Targaryen, who is your enemy too, has been a nuisance to his servants for too long." // Sticking with Efreeti "diplomacy" and stating some things everyone who has been anywhere near a planar city would know to remind them why this situation is perfectly sensible. Pay no attention to the dragon behind the curtain.
    -[X] "What he pledges is a small measure of his wealth and favour, coin for arms and armor and the aid of some of his most loyal and prized servants. All he asks for in return is the island of Sorcerers Deep to be set ablaze for a thousand years and the souls of the false dragon, his sister, his thug and his whore. The forges always hunger for the souls of the unworthy." // Entirely reasonable terms for both sides, assuming they could trust each other. Also leaving an opening for them to latch onto to seek duplicity by implying, but not stating that Brassy would throw Viserys and his closest allies into the forges. This is a trap for Silvertongue to get paranoid about being hoodwinked.
    -[X] In the extremely likely case that they want proof of our claims that they will get aid: "It just happens that my humble personage is counted among these most skilled and esteemed servants and given recent events I will gladly prove the value of my masters favour by aiding you in paying back the false dragons servants for their deeds. A Saan for a Saan sounds fair, does it not?" // Efreeti "diplomacy". Also couching our offer into the terms of vengeance, which should appeal to Maelys.
    -[X] Continuation of the above: "My lesser servants have appraised me of the lay of the land in the ruin of Gogossos. A small group could easily infiltrate his stronghold beneath the ruins, slaughter his unprepared servants and claim the riches hoarded there. Maybe certain parties would be more inclined to me, if they saw me butchering their enemies. Would you accompany me, Lord Silvertongue?" // Bait. By provoking him again we shift attention from the important matter, which is this plan itself, to another spat between us. At the same time, the others will be less inclined to give credence to Silvertongues objections or read all too deeply into the matter, as we are obviously just two assholes sniping at each other. Also, more appealing to Maelys' sensibilities by couching things in terms of gratuitous murder.
    -[X] Continued if Silvertongue refuses: "Maybe someone else of your number then. The Lord of Battle seems less prone to fear and you are clearly less then fond of him, so you would risk little of value if you were to buy into the baseless slander of my person. What say you, Lord Blackfyre?" // What we actually want. By directly addressing Maelys' ego, we make it less likely for him to listen to Silvertongues paranoid ramblings.
    -[X] Accept any other constellation Maelys offers too. The important bit is to get one or two of them under the anti-divination wards of the Forge so that they can be incapitated and interrogated, or flipped to our side, without triggering Divination failsafes.
    [x] "The Targaryen whelp is nothing. Let me all tell you about the True Enemy."
    -[x] Describe the location and nature of Romanian ISP's
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Part MMMCCCLIV: To Snare the Dead
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    • To Snare the Dead ​

    Fourteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

    "My lord, the unparalleled Sultan of Brass wishes for nothing more then to see a scoundrel punished for vexing him. The Targaryen, who is your enemy too, has been a nuisance to his servants for too long," you begin hauntingly. No less than one might expect of the efreeti to present the matter in those terms, and good sense besides to make light of the service rendered. After all, the envoy you are playing as would not wish Maelys to demand payment for his aid.

    "What he pledges is a small measure of his wealth and favor, coin for arms and armor and the aid of some of his most loyal and prized servants. All he asks for in return is the island of Sorcerers Deep to be set ablaze for a thousand years and the souls of the false dragon, his sister, his thug and his whore. The forges always hunger for the souls of the unworthy," you continue, false insults flowing as easily upon your tongue as false praise had done.

    The only distraction is Tyene's mind voice feigning offense: "So I'm not important enough to feed my soul to everlasting torment, am I?"

    "Souls you say?" Silvertongue asks silkily. "We have among us one most concerned with such matters I fear, and the ones you seek to claim have already been marked for their fates." Some unspoken realization passes between him, Maelys and Liomond, but not you note with Spotted Tom or Xhobar Qhoqua. "You called His Grace Dragon Kin. Tell me, what do you know of..."

    "Enough!" Maelys roars, a sound of two voices twined. "For one so concerned with preserving your own hide, you are as free as a whore with her favors when it comes to the secrets of others." His voice falls back into what is almost an ordinary tone by the end of the sentence, but it is clear he is not feigning any of it to intimidate you, or prove his power. The anger is real and willing as he might be to deride Alequo, so is the fear behind it. You have an inkling of what secret was about to spill forth from the lich's withered lips, the same that had brought you here, but why did he think this was wise moment to reveal it?

    You clear your throat, very deliberately skirting that hornets' nest for now. "It just happens that my humble personage is counted among these most skilled and esteemed servants, and given recent events I will gladly prove the value of my master's favor by aiding you in paying back the false dragon's servants for their deeds. A Saan for a Saan sounds fair, does it not?"

    "Well now," Spotted Tom rasps as Maelys continues to glare at Silvertongue, the dead mage silently defiant. "I'd rather have the old Saan as well as the new if you are offering. Bring us the bones or ashes of whatever's left of 'im and then we can kill the new one to get back the old."

    "Bastard got himself killed before the Apple could come to his aid," Maelys finally speaks. "We'll make the new one an offer once we've got 'im. Never heard of a Saan whose loyalty was worth snake spit. How are you planning to get him?"

    "My lesser servants have appraised me of the lay of the land in the ruin of Gogossos. A small group could easily infiltrate his stronghold beneath the ruins, slaughter his unprepared servants and claim the riches hoarded there. Maybe certain parties would be more inclined to believe me if they saw me butchering their enemies?" With these words you finally turn to the man who had once been the Tyrant of Tyrosh. "Would you accompany me, Lord Silvertongue?"

    "Ruins..." the word is a derisive hiss. "Have you no eyes in your head or do you simply lack the wits to use them? The tree is a place of power for Ones with no love of us, nor your supposed master. But do not take my word in matters of gods." His next words are filled with spite and loathing in equal measure, and little wonder for they make up a prayer and you cannot imagine this man praying sincerely even in life. "Mother sweetest some though heed, of your wisdom I have need."

    Somehow the darkness in the chamber grows deeper, not merely the absence of light, but a thing onto itself. The Old Mother had come, formless but not voiceless. "Why do you trouble me Silvertongue, can you not advise in matters of magic alone even for a few hours?"

    "We have guests, Mother, one that boldly offers to walk into the falls of the Pale Gods and steal away from them one of the Targaryen's bannermen..."

    Liomond does not take the summons well. "Just because you are too craven to take the offer does not mean you have to hide behind her skirt," he hisses. Turning to Maelys he proclaims boldly. "I will go, Your Grace..." You are not certain but you suspect his offer may be at least in part born of interest, the anger a convenient mask.

    "No," Maelys' weight shifts slightly upon his throne with the scrape of steel on stone. "Tom, you shall go with them, perhaps your account will calm Alequo's worries." Whatever else he is, this being is no fool. Of all those here Spotted Tom is one whose death would be the least blow should your offer prove a trap.

    What do you do?

    [] Accept, removing a piece from the board is useful even if it is not the most valuable

    [] Argue that Liomond also accompany you

    [] Write in

    OOC: The rolls were mixed, but not particularly extreme this time around.
     
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    • Duesal said:
    Congrats on the job, @TalonofAnathrax!
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    Thanks!
    I should have been clearer though, it's just another internship. I'm stupidly happy about it (and also crazy lucky - this really place that's really important in my field just so happened to need someone with exactly my profile and I heard of the offer) but it'll end in less than a year.
    Ah well, it's experience and contacts, you know the drill.
    In the meantime, I don't expect to post here much during the day.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    "Souls you say?" Silvertongue asks silkily. "We have among us one most concerned with such matters I fear and the ones you seek to claim have already been marked for their fates." Some unspoken realization passes between him Maelys and Liomond but not you note Spotted Tom or Xhobar Qhoqua. "You called His Grace Dragon Kin tell me what do you know of..."
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    Aw, I'm flattered he has plans for our souls. It's nice to know our enemies are thinking of us.
    TalonofAnathrax said:
    Thanks!
    I should have been clearer though, it's just another internship. I'm stupidly happy about it (and also crazy lucky - this really place that's really important in my field just so happened to need someone with exactly my profile and I heard of the offer) but it'll end in less than a year.
    Ah well, it's experience and contacts, you know the drill.
    In the meantime, I don't expect to post here much during the day.
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    Even an internship is great, if only to pad up your resume and get useful business contacts. Best of luck to you. :)
     
    Yeah, no.

    We have no real interested in Spotted Tom, as far as I can tell.
    Offer as it stands is worthless, unless Tom has some really great intel they've been hiding so far?
     
    The chaotic energy required to walk into a meeting between a council of supervillains and spin a thread of bullshit to lure them all there specifically so you can try killing them all at the same time is tremendous.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    "Bastard got himself killed before the Apple could come to his aid," Maelys finally speaks. "We'll make the new one an offer once we've got 'im. Never heard of a Saan whose loyalty was worth snake spit. How are you planning to get him?"
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    By the way, this makes it sound like Fossoway is out there somewhere, near Saan's demise, maybe on a ship or travelling by PC-power.

    So our chances of getting him too in this same attacks seem low, no matter what bullshit we spin.
    Better nuke now than wait for a perfect strike that won't come.
     
    Crake said:
    The chaotic energy required to walk into a meeting between a council of supervillains and spin a thread of bullshit to lure them all there specifically so you can try killing them all at the same time is tremendous.
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    The irony that Viserys is somehow Lawful Neutral will never cease to amaze me given how batshit some of the things we've done are.
     
    @DragonParadox, what spells and auras does Viserys see in the chamber, and on each of the Nine? How is the chamber laid out and how are the Nine positioned in it?
     
    Upon further thought, I don't think we should try to fight here and now. There are too few of us and too many of them, with at least three dangerously advanced spellcasters among their numbers. Action economy is too far outside our favor.

    I still need to hear from @DragonParadox on my previous questions before coming up with a finalized plan, but I'm gonna start putting something together now.
     
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