He's a warlock with Tiamat's brand on his soul. He has to appease her somehow

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If he has a way to hide from Tiamat then sure. Otherwise tough luck for him, he has to find something good for her.
All of that, for Warlock powers. What a bad deal.

Unless it's the real cool epic warlock powers? Shadowmaster would be pretty damn thematic for an Ancient Shadow Dragon Warlock, isn't that Shades at will? WotC site is down.
A Shadow Dragon can get a lot of use from the Darkness invocation and one of the Drow feats that lets them use it as an immediate action. Then add in one or two more levels for +6 to some skills, and it's a nice dip for a Dragon that doesn't expect to level much due to huge ECL.
It's obviously not worth serving Tiamat, but nothing is.
It really does seem like a shitty deal for a Dragon, whatever the immediate benefits may have been. Tiamat is not a good boss.

Knowing Tiamat, she probably pulls the same crap on potential Dragon Warlocks as she did on Dany after Viserys died. Wait until they're at their lowest moment, desperate for survival or blinded by sorrow, then offer them just enough power to get her hooks into them.
 
I'd like to have Dany start on resurrecting our fallen allies right away. It's not strictly practical (since there's no rush), but it would be a very good look for us.

Shouldn't we try to deal with Aegon somehow? Or are we leaving it for later? Could extract info from Connington/Ashara regarding his contingencies in particular. They and Aegon would probably know the most.
And no, when we're under the effects of a Time Stop everything is utterly immune to anything we could try to do to it, including using Speak with Death on a corpse.
I wonder if Mythic Time Stop would work. Though you have to select "creatures" for that. The time saved doesn't seem worth the spell slot anyway.
 
I'd like to have Dany start on resurrecting our fallen allies right away. It's not strictly practical (since there's no rush), but it would be a very good look for us.

Shouldn't we try to deal with Aegon somehow? Or are we leaving it for later? Could extract info from Connington/Ashara regarding his contingencies in particular. They and Aegon would probably know the most.

I wonder if Mythic Time Stop would work. Though you have to select "creatures" for that. The time saved doesn't seem worth the spell slot anyway.
Ironically, Aegon is probably the best source of information for us, but not one I'm willing to try to interrogate right now. I've updated my plan to use Smoky Confinement on him and store him in Viserys' cloak.

EDIT: Actually, ya'll, what do you think about taking Aegon back to SD and the Divination-proof room in the Shadow Tower, cursing his mental attributes down to amoeba-range, then plundering his mind for useful info? Doing that risks side-tracking us dealing with the Shadow Dragon, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing. We could still leave people back at the battle site interrogating prisoners and the dead.
 
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Ironically, Aegon is probably the best source of information for us, but not one I'm willing to try to interrogate right now. I've updated my plan to use Smoky Confinement on him and store him in Viserys' cloak.

EDIT: Actually, ya'll, what do you think about taking Aegon back to SD and the Divination-proof room in the Shadow Tower, cursing his mental attributes down to amoeba-range, then plundering his mind for useful info? Doing that risks side-tracking us dealing with the Shadow Dragon, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing. We could still leave people back at the battle site interrogating prisoners and the dead.
If you curse his mental attributes that far there's not a mind left to interrogate.

Go with this instead:

DEX to 1
WIS & INT reduced by 6
CHA & STR reduced by 6
25% chance to act normally
-8 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, ability checks, and skill checks.

The ultimate fuck you combination of Greater Curses.
 
If you curse his mental attributes that far there's not a mind left to interrogate.

Go with this instead:

DEX to 1
WIS & INT reduced by 6
CHA & STR reduced by 6
25% chance to act normally
-8 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, ability checks, and skill checks.

The ultimate fuck you combination of Greater Curses.
That's much too expensive in spell slots. Also, when someone's mental attributes are reduced to 1, they're effectively incapacitated but not actually mindless. Information can still be extracted from their mind.
 
EDIT: Actually, ya'll, what do you think about taking Aegon back to SD and the Divination-proof room in the Shadow Tower, cursing his mental attributes down to amoeba-range, then plundering his mind for useful info? Doing that risks side-tracking us dealing with the Shadow Dragon, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing. We could still leave people back at the battle site interrogating prisoners and the dead.
I like it.
 
Plan updated. We're gonna plunder Aegon's brain for useful intel, and this will give us a good IC reason to head back to SD early, hopefully in time to catch the Shadow Dragon before it does too much harm.

[X] Plan Delegation
-[X] Place Aegon in a Smoky Confinement bottle using a spell scroll, if he hasn't already been, then store the bottle in Viserys' cloak.
-[X] Interrogate prisoners

--[X] Tyene and Malarys will interrogate the living prisoners using Brain Spider spells.
--[X] Viserys will Teleport back to Sorcerer's Deep with Richard, Teana, a Mind Dragon, and the Seeker. Once there, they will relocate to the Divination-proof room in the Shadow Tower, divest Aegon of all of his gear and any remaining warding spells or contingencies, then Feeblemind him and use a Greater Bestow Curse to reduce his Wisdom attribute to 1 before plundering his mind with a Brain Spider spell.
-[X] Question the dead by magic
--[X] Dany and Lya will questions the dead using Speak with Dead spells duplicated using Inspired Spell.
-[X] Questions will be focused on learning:
--[X] What, if any, contingencies the Golden Company and Tiamat may have put in place to go into effect in the event of their defeat, destruction, or merely as acts of spit.
--[X] What hiding places, safe houses, bolt holes, and hidden resource caches they know of? In conjunction with this, where might we find any prominent members of the Golden Company or servants of Tiamat who escaped?
--[X] The identities of any collaborators or otherwise compromised individuals (blackmailed, enchanted, etc) working for the Golden Company or Tiamat, especially those in Westeros or western Essos.
--[X] Any plots which may be underway in other locales.
--[X] The full capabilities of the Prismatic Drakes loaned to the Golden Company by Tiamat, including their weaknesses, standard equipment, riders, etc.
--[X] Any additional information they can give us on the surviving Dragons who fled the battle, especially Lizzirith.
 
I know she doesn't have a good idea of our character and personal history, but why would anyone expect Viserys Targaryen to look with approval upon an Usurper?

And that is definitely what Pol Qo is, unambiguously so.
I contest that.
Usurper is the one who looses the contest for the crown.

Right now there is no such thing, outside of insults from the other side, it will only come to exist when the history books are written.
 
I contest that.
Usurper is the one who looses the contest for the crown.

Right now there is no such thing, outside of insults from the other side, it will only come to exist when the history books are written.
That's puerile and academic, but you're correct that even Viserys could justify an alliance with Pol Qo any number of ways, were he not half-convinced already that he stands to gain more from allying with Bu Gai.

That he's not gotten a dim impression from the latter but had to save the bacon of the former makes it easier to cast judgement, however.
 
That's puerile and academic, but you're correct that even Viserys could justify an alliance with Pol Qo any number of ways, were he not half-convinced already that he stands to gain more from allying with Bu Gai.

That he's not gotten a dim impression from the latter but had to save the bacon of the former makes it easier to cast judgement, however.
The other reasons for going with Bu Gai aside, we did in fact have to save his bacon as well. Were it not for our Companions' direct intervention he'd already be dead at the hands of the treacherous eunuch.
 
Shhhh! He had it handled! :V

Geez, it's feels like its been awhile, but you're absolutely right.

I'm just biased!
 
Shhhh! He had it handled! :V

Geez, it's feels like its been awhile, but you're absolutely right.

I'm just biased!

What, for the Orange Boy or the Azure Boy? 'Cuz I got the impression that you liked them both.

Well, ancient asian politics has been a favourite of mine, lately. So, you're not the only one.
 
So, wait if the shadow dragon in SD is still not attacking then does that mean @Crake 's latest omake is non-canon, considering that it has the inquisitors in SD say that they are under attack.
 
See @egoo, you have all kinds of elaborate ideas, but I have no idea where the heck you dig them up.

The main problem with Mindblank originating from Hell, the Abyss, some rando adjacent Fiend or a Dark God, is they almost certainly have some reverse scrying focus associated with them so long as the Deity/devout follower is channeling that Power's energy to do it.

Or really, all high powered magic items typically having some kind of monkey's paw or curse associated with it that makes it worse than useless to all but the original owners (or useful for damning whoever loots it down the road).

And finally, the most out there part about these random unsubstantiated statements is--what gives you the impression Lya can "carve away" a constant spell effect that is not even an organ creating it, like most SLAs from which grafts are formed? It's a blessing, not an innate ability. Due to Tiamat's Domains in particular, it's one which can be rescinded at any time.
Bah, again you fight me with facts and logic!
Hisssssss!

But for real tho', there was an oooooold as fuck ruling by DP, that upon her capstone, "Lya could try to carve away the soul of a Dragon away from Tiamat's blessing", simple as that.
It would be a difficult bit of research, and we'd have to stuff the Dragons in a God-proof place for it's entirety...

But it should be possible, at least.


Now, I'm not saying we should do it this way. We have gotten... a lot of Mindblanks.
Holy shit, did we get them.

Whereas before the Dragons would have been a priority target for a chance to cut away 3(!) Mindblanks off them, now... nowhere near so.

Having Yss/MK/R'hlor/OGs eat the Dragons is just as fine a way to ensure all the power of blessings is permanently lost to Timmie as the one a;ove; but much faster.
Less efficient on our side, but easier.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Feb 15, 2020 at 4:54 AM, finished with 52 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Plan Delegation
    -[X] Place Aegon in a Smoky Confinement bottle using a spell scroll, if he hasn't already been, then store the bottle in Viserys' cloak.
    -[X] Interrogate prisoners
    --[X] Tyene and Malarys will interrogate the living prisoners using Brain Spider spells.
    --[X] Viserys will Teleport back to Sorcerer's Deep with Richard, Teana, a Mind Dragon, and the Seeker. Once there, they will relocate to the Divination-proof room in the Shadow Tower, divest Aegon of all of his gear and any remaining warding spells or contingencies, then Feeblemind him and use a Greater Bestow Curse to reduce his Wisdom attribute to 1 before plundering his mind with a Brain Spider spell.
    -[X] Question the dead by magic
    --[X] Dany and Lya will questions the dead using Speak with Dead spells duplicated using Inspired Spell.
    -[X] Questions will be focused on learning:
    --[X] What, if any, contingencies the Golden Company and Tiamat may have put in place to go into effect in the event of their defeat, destruction, or merely as acts of spit.
    --[X] What hiding places, safe houses, bolt holes, and hidden resource caches they know of? In conjunction with this, where might we find any prominent members of the Golden Company or servants of Tiamat who escaped?
    --[X] The identities of any collaborators or otherwise compromised individuals (blackmailed, enchanted, etc) working for the Golden Company or Tiamat, especially those in Westeros or western Essos.
    --[X] Any plots which may be underway in other locales.
    --[X] The full capabilities of the Prismatic Drakes loaned to the Golden Company by Tiamat, including their weaknesses, standard equipment, riders, etc.
    --[X] Any additional information they can give us on the surviving Dragons who fled the battle, especially Lizzirith.
 
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