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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
Even fully depleted, that thing should have a significant amount of LEGEND associated with it. What better to serve as a receptacle for Lya to craft into a Mythic Artifact?
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The fight against Tiamath sounds like a decent candidate for Mythic rank for Dany to me.
She resists and cripples a God, and not just any God, but the one claiming Dominion over her.

She does have an irreplaceable part in the ritual.
 
Crake said:
What if it's not food but magical byproducts? Bilestone and wildmagic effected waste for example in the loosest definition wouldn't poison you, it might just mutate you.

I'm pretty sure at the core though you could make a magic poison that worked through immunity. And ingesting a poison isn't some magical proof against illness just because you can eat rock. If blood injection or inhalation would kill something eating it isn't going to be less deadly.
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Eating it will be less deadly, because a dragons digestive system is special, it's more like a fusion reactor than an stomach, anything a dragon eat is rendered down to raw energy and mass.

If just touching something would kill you, then a dragon isn't protected from it by eating it, as it will touch the mouth and throat of the dragon, before getting to the stomach, but if it actually need to get to the blood or lungs of the dragon, then eating it wont poison the dragon, as before it get from the stomach to the rest of the dragon, it's going to be broken into subatomic particles and reassembled.
 
egoo said:
Eeesh. @Artemis1992, you get some of what you wanted, I guess :V
Condolences to @Duesal.

Here's my vote, @everyone.
I'm of the opinion that we should overfeed OG's here even in spite of diminishing returns -
Worst case, they'll get a buffer before them and Tiamat, when they'll be fighting her on all the fronts.

[X] Plan: "We Drink Your Blood!"
-[X] 62 Imps, HD: 251.1
-[X] 7 Green Abishai, HD: 56.7
-[X] 11 Black Abishai, HD: 74.25
-[X] 1 Imp (Sorcerer 4), HD: 11.2
-[X] 1 Unraveller, HD: 10.8
-[X] 1 Shadow Demon, HD: 9.45
-[X] 2 Incubus Demons, HD: 21.6
-[X] 12 Vermleks, HD: 64.8
-[X] 1 Mighty Ghonhatine, HD: 16.2
-[X] 3 Ghonhatines, HD: 48.6
-[X] 6 Zebubs, HD: 32.4
-[X] 9 Quasits, HD: 36.45
-[X] 6 Schir, HD: 40.5
-[X] 3 Orthons, HD: 28.35
-[X] 5 Ice Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 94.5
-[X] 28 Erinyes (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 340.2
-[X] 5 Lesser Host Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 27
-[X] 2 Bearded Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 16.2
-[X] 12 Imps (sworn to Mammon), HD: 48.6
-[X] 21 Tripurasura, HD: 85.05
-[X] 4 Vayuphak, HD: 43.2
-[X] 7 Aghasura, HD: 132.3
-[X] 1 Hishandura, HD: 24.3
-[X] 1 Venedaemon, hD: 8.1 HD
-[X] 3 Cacodaemons, HD: 12.15
-[X] 2 Handmaiden Devils (sworn to Belial), HD: 16.2
-[X] 1 Judgement Devil (sworn to Asmodeous), HD: 16.2
-[X] 3 Sire Devils (sworn to Baalzebub), HD: 32.4
-[X] 3 Sire Devils (sworn to Mephistopheles), HD: 32.4
-[X] 15 Accomplice Devils (sworn to Mephistopheles), HD: 121.5
-[X] 18 Accomplice Devils (sworn to Asmodeous), HD: 145.8)
-[X] Total HD: 1898.5 HD
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I don't think we should exceed 1080 HD on this, at least not by this much. Remember, the original cap was 270 HD.

Also, it would be better to hold back our highest CR creatures. The OG don't care about CR for sacrifices, merely total HD. We can use the high CR creatures for other stuff, like Yss snack and Fleshforging discounts.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Well:
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I am in fact being 100% serious here. If it's not broken, we improve it and keep using it for this sort of Ritual. We have an awful lot more divine enemies, after all!
I wouldn't try it twice against Tiamat though. She'll probably be prepared. But the Others, if we capture one? Ymeri if we get another Herald or fire-tree? Those are fair game.
 
LightLan said:
The fight against Tiamath sounds like a decent candidate for Mythic rank for Dany to me.
She resists and cripples a God, and not just any God, but the one claiming Dominion over her.

She does have an irreplaceable part in the ritual.
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We should award her a position at the top of whatever formal regulatory body we create for normal religions, then give her the newly enchanted Well as a badge of office.

That way she'll always have a reason to wear it when interacting with divine beings, their worshippers, and servants.

It'd certainly send a message about our opinions on where gods fall relative to the law at the very least.

Edit: grammar again. I should stop posting on my phone.
 
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Goldfish said:
I don't think we should exceed 1080 HD on this, at least not by this much. Remember, the original cap was 270 HD.

Also, it would be better to hold back our highest CR creatures. The OG don't care about CR for sacrifices, merely total HD. We can use the high CR creatures for other stuff, like Yss snack and Fleshforging discounts.
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@DragonParadox, repeating my earlier question - those sacrifices exceeding soft-cap would still count towards ensuring OGs get through the fighting okay, right?
 
BronzeTongue said:
We should award her a position at the top of whatever formal regulatory body we create for normal religions, then give her the newly enchanted Well as a badge of office.

That way she'll always have a reason to wear it when interact with divine beings, their worshippers, and servants.

It'd certainly send a message about our opinions on where gods fall relative to the law at the very least.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes?
 
BronzeTongue said:
Wouldn't that still count as a poison for the purposes of DND immunities/resistances?
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Dragons are typically only immune to ingested poison.

We're assuming they were poisoned via their food, but it could have just as easily been some sort of heavily concentrated oil or cream that was applied directly into their nostrils which they then breathed in over long periods of time in an aerosolized form.
 
This discussion is making me want to burn the Citadel to the ground... but most Maesters are probably as harmless as Pycelle and maybe a quarter half as good people as Aemon (who's a really good person TBH so kind of an unfair comparison).

I can't wait until we can shut down that mess and snatch up all the decent ones for our own projects. They want to spread knowledge and enlightenment? OH FUCKING BOY do we have news for them.

And. Best news, boys? No more politics. Or else.
 
Goldfish said:
We're assuming they were poisoned via their food, but it could have just as easily been some sort of heavily concentrated oil or cream that was applied directly into their nostrils which they then breathed in over long periods of time in an aerosolized form.
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This takes the sentence of 'there's more than one way to skin a cat' to a WHOLE New level.
 
Crake said:
This discussion is making me want to burn the Citadel to the ground... but most Maesters are probably as harmless as Pycelle and maybe a quarter half as good people as Aemon (who's a really good person TBH so kind of an unfair comparison).

I can't wait until we can shut down that mess and snatch up all the decent ones for our own projects. They want to spread knowledge and enlightenment? OH FUCKING BOY do we have news for them.

And. Best news, boys? No more politics. Or else.
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We're going to have to run the entire membership of the Citadel through a magical interrogation session, with full on Discern Lies, Zone of Truth, and Brain Spider spells running to guarantee none of the shit biscuits slip through.
 
Lothos Saan added to the front page, once again build courtesy of @Artemis1992

Name: Lothos Saan
Alias:
Age: 79 (Physical age 19)
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Race: Human
Level: 9
Class: Rogue 3/ Swashbuckler 3/Scarlet Corsair 3
Flaws: Short Attention Span
Feats: Weapon FinesseB, Improved FeintB, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Riposte, Surprise Risposte, Deadly Defence, Expert Tactician
Class features: Sneak Attack (3d6), Evasion, Trap Sense, Grace, Insightful Strike, Corsair's Feint

HP: 45
AC: 10 + 3 (DEX) + 6 (+2 Mithril Chainshirt) =19
Movement: 30ft
Initiative: +3 (DEX)
Attack: +8 (BAB) +3 (Dex) +2(Enh) =13/8 (1d8 +4 /18-20x2)

STATS:
13 (+1) Strength
16 (+3) Dexterity
12 (+1) Constitution
10 (+0) Charisma
16 (+3) Intelligence
8 (-1) Wisdom

SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 5 + 1 (CON) = 6
REFLEX: 7 + 3 (DEX) +1 (Grace) = 11
WILL: 3 - 1 (WIS) = 2

SKILLS:
Bluff: 12
Intimidate: 12
Hide: 12 + 3 (DEX) = 15
Knowledge (Geography): 12 + 3 (INT) = 15
Knowledge (Local): 12 + 3 (INT) = 15
Profession (Sailor): 12 + 3 (INT) =15
Move Silently: 12 + 3 (DEX) = 15
Sense Motive: 12 +2 (WIS) = 14
Spot: 12 -1 (WIS) = 11

Equipment: +2 Mithral Chainshirt, Balanced and Accurate Valyrian Steel Thinblade

He has a very feint and parry based duelist build, that works best when he has at least one or two allies around too.
 
DragonParadox said:
Lothos Saan added to the front page, once again build courtesy of @Artemis1992

Name: Lothos Saan
Alias:
Age: 79 (Physical age 19)
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Race: Human
Level: 9
Class: Rogue 3/ Swashbuckler 3/Scarlet Corsair 3
Flaws: Short Attention Span
Feats: Weapon FinesseB, Improved FeintB, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Riposte, Surprise Risposte, Deadly Defence, Expert Tactician
Class features: Sneak Attack (3d6), Evasion, Trap Sense, Grace, Insightful Strike, Corsair's Feint

HP: 45
AC: 10 + 3 (DEX) + 6 (+2 Mithril Chainshirt) =19
Movement: 30ft
Initiative: +3 (DEX)
Attack: +8 (BAB) +3 (Dex) +2(Enh) =13/8 (1d8 +4 /18-20x2)

STATS:
13 (+1) Strength
16 (+3) Dexterity
12 (+1) Constitution
10 (+0) Charisma
16 (+3) Intelligence
8 (-1) Wisdom

SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 5 + 1 (CON) = 6
REFLEX: 7 + 3 (DEX) +1 (Grace) = 11
WILL: 3 - 1 (WIS) = 2

SKILLS:
Bluff: 12
Intimidate: 12
Hide: 12 + 3 (DEX) = 15
Knowledge (Geography): 12 + 3 (INT) = 15
Knowledge (Local): 12 + 3 (INT) = 15
Profession (Sailor): 12 + 3 (INT) =15
Move Silently: 12 + 3 (DEX) = 15
Sense Motive: 12 +2 (WIS) = 14
Spot: 12 -1 (WIS) = 11

Equipment: +2 Mithral Chainshirt, Balanced and Accurate Valyrian Steel Thinblade

He has a very feint and parry based duelist build, that works best when he has at least one or two allies around too.
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Here's Lothos' full gear list, including what we enchanted for him.

EDIT: I'll put together an updated sheet, if you want.

Ring of Protection from Evil
Cloak of Invisibility (3/Day)
Mithral Chainmail (+2)
Healing Belt w/+2 Constitution
Amulet of Tears
Earring of Arcane Acuity
Gloves of Zephery's Grace (+2 Dexterity)
Anklets of Translocation w/Boots of Speed effect
Ring of Sustenance
Handy Haversack
Greater Ribbon of Disguise
Balanced and Accurate Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
 
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@Crake @Goldfish, speaking about the Citadel...

In our previous Conquest of Essos (Tyrosh I think) some librarian retards decided that they'd rather burn the books within rather than relinquishing them to us. Upon which we Diplomanced ourselves so that their stupidity doesn't spread.

Thing is, with Westeros (ESPECIALLY with those Magic-Hating Hypocritical old men) such thing won't be thought twice. The moment that we come in knocking on Oldtown, is the moment when they're gonna try to make our victory tastes ash by burning the library.

What's our precaution against that? I wanna save those books, man!
 
egoo said:
Eeesh. @Artemis1992, you get some of what you wanted, I guess :V
Condolences to @Duesal.

Here's my vote, @everyone.
I'm of the opinion that we should overfeed OG's here even in spite of diminishing returns -
Worst case, they'll get a buffer before them and Tiamat, when they'll be fighting her on all the fronts.

[X] Plan: "We Drink Your Blood!"
-[X] 62 Imps, HD: 251.1
-[X] 7 Green Abishai, HD: 56.7
-[X] 11 Black Abishai, HD: 74.25
-[X] 1 Imp (Sorcerer 4), HD: 11.2
-[X] 1 Unraveller, HD: 10.8
-[X] 1 Shadow Demon, HD: 9.45
-[X] 2 Incubus Demons, HD: 21.6
-[X] 12 Vermleks, HD: 64.8
-[X] 1 Mighty Ghonhatine, HD: 16.2
-[X] 3 Ghonhatines, HD: 48.6
-[X] 6 Zebubs, HD: 32.4
-[X] 9 Quasits, HD: 36.45
-[X] 6 Schir, HD: 40.5
-[X] 3 Orthons, HD: 28.35
-[X] 5 Ice Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 94.5
-[X] 28 Erinyes (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 340.2
-[X] 5 Lesser Host Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 27
-[X] 2 Bearded Devils (sworn to Asmodeus), HD: 16.2
-[X] 12 Imps (sworn to Mammon), HD: 48.6
-[X] 21 Tripurasura, HD: 85.05
-[X] 4 Vayuphak, HD: 43.2
-[X] 7 Aghasura, HD: 132.3
-[X] 1 Hishandura, HD: 24.3
-[X] 1 Venedaemon, hD: 8.1 HD
-[X] 3 Cacodaemons, HD: 12.15
-[X] 2 Handmaiden Devils (sworn to Belial), HD: 16.2
-[X] 1 Judgement Devil (sworn to Asmodeous), HD: 16.2
-[X] 3 Sire Devils (sworn to Baalzebub), HD: 32.4
-[X] 3 Sire Devils (sworn to Mephistopheles), HD: 32.4
-[X] 15 Accomplice Devils (sworn to Mephistopheles), HD: 121.5
-[X] 18 Accomplice Devils (sworn to Asmodeous), HD: 145.8)
-[X] Total HD: 1898.5 HD
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Please remove the Mighty Ghonatine and Hishandura. They're both CR 15+, which are suitable for feeding to a Flesh/Fungal Forge for discount purposes.

[X] egoo
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
@Crake @Goldfish, speaking about the Citadel...

In our previous Conquest of Essos (Tyrosh I think) some librarian retards decided that they'd rather burn the books within rather than relinquishing them to us. Upon which we Diplomanced ourselves so that their stupidity doesn't spread.

Thing is, with Westeros (ESPECIALLY with those Magic-Hating Hypocritical old men) such thing won't be thought twice. The moment that we come in knocking on Oldtown, is the moment when they're gonna try to make our victory tastes ash by burning the library.

What's our precaution against that? I wanna save those books, man!
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I don't think the Maesters will burn their libraries. Those books are the heart of their order, one which has persisted for thousands of years.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't act to prevent them from destroying records, escaping with important artifacts, etc., but I am really not concerned about them torching the stacks.
 
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