Yeah, feel free to let me know if there's ever a vote for that before I catch up. I will 100% support you in opposing that.
Just putting a level 5 side by side a Praetorian makes them look not that good. Ya, unfortunately, I couldn't contribute to that past discussion, I would never have gone for the nerfs. Our enemies have infinite armies of high cp minions who can rez when they die at pretty much no cost. We need all the power we can get, Its not like having relatively stronger soldiers would negatively impact balance, they would still be worse than all our real enemies armies. Hell a squad of Praetorian would still die to a squad of deep one common illathid which are pretty much the lowest rung soldiers of our enemies. It's not like we can fight entire armies of high cp enemies, maybe for a few rounds but we will run out of spells and after that get shredded unless we run away.
In the worst case scenario you've just envisioned here, quite frankly a Dragon Vassal vs a Praetorian will not make a noticeable difference. If things are so bad that our divine allies fall, slightly strong minions are not going to make so much as a dent in the enemy's forces. If it ever got that bad we'd be forced to cut our losses, evacuate key personnel and whatever citizens we can to the Opaline Vault or Armun Kelisk, and go from there.
This is just laughable. I just don't know what to say. We're quite high-powered, and our enemies often lack the kind of builds our guys have (because DP is a human being who needs sleeps, while we are a group of people on the internet).
And I prefer the route of never carving grafts out of Viserys, fluff be damned. I'd rather abandon a super soldier project entirely than do anything along these lines. Why people are seemingly blasé about such a big strategic blunder is beyond me.
The sympathetic link is far from the only problem with this, @DragonParadox. For the last 14,000 pages you've hammered into our skulls that grafts cannot be regenerated until the harvested graft is destroyed. I want nothing to do with grafts of any sort being taken from Viserys, and frankly even if there were some new ruling that a graft could be regenerated it would feel like a cheap copout solely to accomodate the Dragon Vassal.
As a note, this is no longer about me liking Project Praetorian, this is me taking a stand against any notion of any sort of grafts taken out of Viserys' hide. If there's a way to do Dragon Vassal without this then my complaints will vanish.
That scale is the endpoint of the channel that allows the dragon vassal to tap into the draconic might. If our enemies used such a thing, you can BET we'd invest research and argue 'since there's a connection, there' an option (to hack into it, to subvert it, or to copy it).
Sorry, posted before I saw this.
Kicking this bucket down the road will solve nothing and this very behaviour is why this sentiment here is thing:
That's fine, dude.
Hm. I strongly dislike the attitude of some of the latest posts.
"oh no, this politely worded disagreement is somehow turning the thread toxic!" and think it impossible for this issue to become the new Conclave saltfest, or anything even close to it.
Honestly I wasn't under the impression that there was salt here at all... This is just slightly less consensual than what is usual for this thread. This debate went on for a single night, and hasn't exactly been super common before this (this is, what, the third time this comes up in a year? And this time we had new ideas and suggestions!).
Hating endless saltfests is fine, but IMO this isn't one. Let's not be the boy who cried wolf, but for saltfests.
Furthermore, insisting that everything only be debated once is inconvenient for anyone who isn't here 24/7 or doesn't think of every possibility instantly. Sometimes issues do have to come back up, especially with different people or different points.
I'm afraid that a thread culture that is too prompt to cry "salt" whenever a few people disagree is in itself toxic, stifling discussion. Always reiterating the same debates is a pain, but that's why we have thing thing called votes every so often
But the "remote connections are dangerous" argument is making more and more sense to me, so... Don't expect me to support Vassals again, sorry.
I immediately edited my post to remove the two player names. Calling people out specifically felt rude.
Finally someone mentions this. This has been running for years. Player base change is inevitable and saying that something that was voted on by people who have a statistically significant chance of not even looking at the thread anymore months or even years ago being unchangeable is not a good idea besides first come first serve choices like who the PC is.
The world you made is getting more complex by the post (and therefore interesting). That means inconsistencies have it easier to creep in, and since there's ONE of you but A LOT MORE of us, one of us will spot them and can point them out. Then they get fixed, with or without discussion (depending on the issue).
With regards to the dragon scale, is that actually a graft? Or is it more a donation, I mean I think dragons naturally shed their scales as they grow, so while I would agree magic shouldn't be able to regrow the scale early, the scale should be naturally replaced, when the dragon go though their next shedding season.