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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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A_Somebody said:
Ddaaawwww. It's been really nice to see Waymar grow into his role as leader of men. Also more Griffens are always good. Man still chuckling at how they decided themselves to buy up some emptied lands and hire human herders for a place to rest and eat during the Essosi conquest.
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Yeah, the Skyborn Griffins are cool. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action in the months to come.

Waymar is still basically a kid, at least in years at only 14 or 15, but he sure has grown up a lot since he arrived on the docks in Braavos as an exile.
 
Crake said:
@Goldfish We should buy more Titan's Tools... like double what we have now. Actually I would just order 18 more of them. It's pretty much what we're eventually going to need. And in the mean time it would basically allow us to finish all short-term construction in Essos really fast. Fast enough we could bring Westeros up to code in months, then spread them around back and forth.
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Is that something were allowed to do?
I feel like if we buy too many of those well snowball out of control but I dont really understand the mechanics behind their use, but it kinda reminds me of how we cant make leshies that can research with the forge.

Mind you I dont think its a bad idea in fact id like to buy like a hundred or so of them, its just weve accomplished alot with the few we have in just a few short months I know it takes a while OOC but IC were basically miracle workers already.
 
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DRONE said:
Is that something were allowed to do?
I feel like if we buy too many of those well snowball out of control but I dont really understand the mechanics behind their use, but it kinda reminds me of how we cant make leshies that can research with the forge.
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We already have 12 sets of Titan's Tools, which cost 40,000 IM per set, so I don't see why we can't buy more. It might take a few months to get another 18 sets made, though.
 
We could buy a hundred and get use out of them. One limiting factor to their use is that there are still a lot of things that go into projects, people need to make furnishings, or clear away land, there's logistical practicalities like transporting them and getting people or terrain features or buildings out of the way. And we have to pay administrators to keep track of all of this stuff and organize the details.

We don't really lack for manpower either though. There would be diminishing returns to their use, but we'd have to run headlong and far to find the edge of their limits.

Oh, and also, in general, all of the above still costs some money, the tools just subsidize labor costs partially and all material costs related to the stone. And on the scale these are in use, "costs some money" is an extreme limiting factor when the most extensive project can be priced at hundreds of thousands of IM.

We're fucking stupidly rich but we do have to pace ourselves somewhat.
 
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Crake said:
We could buy a hundred and get use out of them. One limiting factor to their use is that there are still a lot of things that go into projects, people need to make furnishings, or clear away land, there's logistical practicalities like transporting them and getting people or terrain features or buildings out of the way. And we have to pay administrators to keep track of all of this stuff and organize the details.

We don't really lack for manpower either though. There would be diminishing returns to their use, but we'd have to run headlong and far to find the edge of their limits.

Oh, and also, in general, all of the above still costs some money, the tools just subsidize labor costs partially and all material costs related to the stone. And on the scale these are in use, "costs some money" is an extreme limiting factor when the most extensive project can be priced at hundreds of thousands of IM.

We're fucking stupidly rich but we do have to pace ourselves somewhat.
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Actually that does remind me of something, how rich are we? I kept up with our income for a while but eventually around the time we conquered torturers deep or so it got away from me and now i have no idea where to find our monthly income or our treasury pg.
 
DRONE said:
Actually that does remind me of something, how rich are we? I kept up with our income for a while but eventually around the time we conquered torturers deep or so it got away from me and now i have no idea where to find our monthly income or our treasury pg.
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Rich enough to impress genie trade magnates with our rate of wealth acquisition.

These people have had literally thousands of years to make their fortunes.

It's still nothing against the wealth of the Peerless Empire or even Armun Kelisk, but we're going at a nice steady clip.

To put it one way, at Sorcerer's Deep's current statistics, once it has about a million people living within the city itself, our capital province will make us over 21,000,000 IM per year. Well over that, actually.

That's just the capital alone.

And that's just in taxes.
 
DRONE said:
Actually that does remind me of something, how rich are we? I kept up with our income for a while but eventually around the time we conquered torturers deep or so it got away from me and now i have no idea where to find our monthly income or our treasury pg.
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Our currency reserves are around 100 million IM, IIRC, with a good amount of strategically valuable resources (primarily Mithral and Adamantine) held in reserve.

We have done very well for ourselves robbing the Efreeti blind and taking advantage of extraplanar trading opportunities. We can't expect there to be too many more massive windfalls like that, however, so we have to be responsible with our spending.
 
DragonParadox said:
You guys could try to divine the answers there.

Actually... that sounds like something Dany might do, she is quite invested in family near or far. I'll have to think of this when it isn't almost 1 AM for me.

Speaking of the late hour, good night guys, see you tomorrow with solicitors and Yi Ti plots.
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More family! Maximum HeroTargs!
 
Goldfish said:
Our currency reserves are around 100 million IM, IIRC, with a good amount of strategically valuable resources (primarily Mithral and Adamantine) held in reserve.

We have done very well for ourselves robbing the Efreeti blind and taking advantage of extraplanar trading opportunities. We can't expect there to be too many more massive windfalls like that, however, so we have to be responsible with our spending.
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Even then, we are making tens of millions of IM a year so far from taxation and businesses. And I expect that to balloon massively.

I expect all of the jokes from Viserys about growing lazy and just collecting taxes like some kind of petty feudal lord. :V
 
[X] Crake

While I think this is the right action in a sense, I kinda hope we get rebuffed due to client confidentiality.

If this happens I'm not sure what the outcome is going to be given that realistically they shouldn't even acknowledge that he is a client.
 
Can Vialesk make Titans Tools or failing that Lyres of Building? If they can that 30 pieces a month since they do count as middle level items.

Heh, let's go for 5 mil a month in Infrastructure projects. Gotta keep that spend money to make money thing going.


After we do empty the Mercury lake you guys wanna spend a day or two scrying other locations of high single elements in the Plane of Earth? I could go for a Mountain of Quartz to start mass printing crystal windows for the Imperium. We do that anyway but might as well have a explained personal supply.

Or just another Mercury Lake. We doubled production of ships so our stock will only last half as long as projected now. Plus encounters.

DP still hasn't rolled for more Efreeti targets and I am getting itchy for more loot. Metric tons of metal loot. Port over a lead ingot the size of the Red Keep to process? Something insane.
 
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Crake said:
Rich enough to impress genie trade magnates with our rate of wealth acquisition.

These people have had literally thousands of years to make their fortunes.

It's still nothing against the wealth of the Peerless Empire or even Armun Kelisk, but we're going at a nice steady clip.

To put it one way, at Sorcerer's Deep's current statistics, once it has about a million people living within the city itself, our capital province will make us over 21,000,000 IM per year. Well over that, actually.

That's just the capital alone.

And that's just in taxes.
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I get the feeling Kings Landing will be an economic backwater compared to Sorcerer's Deep, even after we bring it up to snuff as a city of the empire.

Crake said:
Even then, we are making tens of millions of IM a year so far from taxation and businesses. And I expect that to balloon massively.

I expect all of the jokes from Viserys about growing lazy and just collecting taxes like some kind of petty feudal lord. :V
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Viserys: "I feel like such a... Lannister."
 
Abhishek M said:
Can Vialesk make Titans Tools or failing that Lyres of Building? If they can that 30 pieces a month since they do count as middle level items.
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It's probably possible, but they would be specially commissioned items rather than common, if expensive tools, purchased off the rack, so to speak.

We did purchase two sets of Triton's Tool (that's what I'm calling them anyway) when we were last in Vialisk, which are the equivalent to Titan's Tool but for coral rather than stone.
 
Goldfish said:
It's probably possible, but they would be specially commissioned items rather than common, if expensive tools, purchased off the rack, so to speak.

We did purchase two sets of Triton's Tool (that's what I'm calling them anyway) when we were last in Vialisk, which are the equivalent to Titan's Tool but for coral rather than stone.
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Eh, 10 more of those too. Might as well use them for sea defenses and fortifications in all coastal cities at once. The medium items can be Lyrs of Building if they cant manage Titans Tools. Unless you have more medium items you want?

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We could do that this month. The setup for this would require a few hours at most, then we just have to arrange the temporary Greater Demiplane and portal Gates to drain the entire lake into the specially prepared holding tank.
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Wasnt that one of the Minor Action list for the Month? I remember discussion about that during the plan vote. Something about 20-50 Olympic Swimming pools of the stuff?
 
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Abhishek M said:
Eh, 10 more of those too. Might as well use them for sea defenses and fortifications in all coastal cities at once. The medium items can be Lyrs of Building if they cant manage Titans Tools. Unless you have more medium items you want?

Want that un the Minor Action list for the Month? I remember discussion about that during the plan vote. Something about 20-50 Olympic Swimming pools of the stuff?
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IMO, Titan's Tools are generally superior to Triton's Tools. Stone works just as well underwater as it does above it, after all, while coral doesn't have that advantage. The Triton's Tools we have now should be capable of fulfilling their intended purpose of building underwater districts for SD and it's surrounding environs. We wanted those to look familiar and aesthetically pleasing to our aquatic citizens.

More Lyres of Building, and their equivalents, would be helpful, too. Ideally, we would have two or three of them per set of Titan's Tools. That would allow for a lot of finish work to be accomplished while the Titan's Tools do the large-scale bulk tasks. There is a bottleneck (though I'm not sure how easily it could be overcome at this point if we're willing to pay) in their use, however, due to the requirement for skilled Bards to play them. We have enough eligible Bards to play those we have now, but we would need to find a lot more to use dozens of additional Lyres.
 
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Goldfish said:
IMO, Titan's Tools are generally superior to Triton's Tools. Stone works just as well underwater as it does above it, after all, while coral doesn't have that advantage. The Triton's Tools we have now should be capable of fulfilling their intended purpose of building underwater districts for SD and it's surrounding environs. We wanted those to look familiar and aesthetically pleasing to our aquatic citizens.

More Lyre of Building, and their equivalents, would be helpful, too. Ideally, we would have two or three of them per set of Titan's Tools. That would allow for a lot of finish work to be accomplished while the Titan's Tools do the large-scale bulk tasks. There is a bottleneck (though I'm not sure how easily it could be overcome at this point if we're willing to pay) in their use, however, due to the requirement for skilled Bards to play them. We have enough eligible Bards to play those we have now, but we would need to find a lot more to use dozens of additional Lyres.
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Eh, I just meant I'd take the Tritons Tools as a third option if we cant gain the first two. So 20 Lyrs of Building next turn? We should replace our current stock anyway. They've been used too long it's time to break them once the year is done.

As to Bards, Plane of Water again. Recruit a bunch of mermaids or something to play them.
 
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Abhishek M said:
10 more of those too. Might as well use them for sea defenses and fortifications in all coastal cities at once.
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This I support, turning every coastal settlement into a world class reef has tremendous benefits for our people economically and culturally, additional food and natural wave breakers.

Bountiful, calm and clear waters throughout the land (that also tear the ass out of your vessel if you haven't signalled the harbourmaster appropriately).

Goldfish said:
Titan's Tools are generally superior to Triton's Tools.
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Coral looks nicer, actively cleans our waters, provides prime ground for oceanic creatures that supplement our people nutritionally while looking amazing and also providing medicine, toxins, dyes, pearls and craft materials like abalone and cowrie shell among a dozen other things.
 
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Deliste said:
This I support, turning every coastal settlement into a world class reef has tremendous benefits for our people economically and culturally, additional food and natural wave breakers.

Bountiful, calm and clear waters throughout the land (that also tear the ass out of your vessel if you haven't signalled the harbourmaster appropriately).
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That needs Titans Tools too. Tritons Tools do coral and just coral. You're gonna have to shape the shore into more optimal shapes and conditions for coral reefs.
 
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