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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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TalonofAnathrax said:
I'm so sick of leaning on Gods for literally everything. Ugh.

[X] Sacrifice her before Lord Luther's Heart Tree to empower it
[X] All of them were to an extent under the influence of the curse that touched much more than the weather, seek clemency though ensuring that any 'good luck charms' are destroyed
[X] Bid the loyalist lords to trade with House Lolliston
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Sacrificing to the Heart Tree won't break the ritual, and breaking the ritual won't get us any guesses to where more of the talismans are.

While I understand your annoyance, and relate to it somewhat too, here Zathir is just too useful an instrument to ignore, unless we have some other way of quickly and reliably finding/removing the corrupting amulets..?
 
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[X] Crake
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Fur fun, imagine a standard level 8 party encountering the famine daemon ... Viserys made the fight look very much like 'and nothing much happened'.
 
DragonParadox said:
It's worth bearing in mind that Zathir did just promise you guys a boon for helping him ascend so it's not like it would be out of the blue.
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...feels like a bit of a waste of a boon, considering he was offering an equivalent of "a CR 21 Mythic Avatar halping in a single fight of choosing" with the Tiamat-stuff there.
:V

Eh, at least he'll be happy dealing with this sort of influence.

Not like we will risk the precious cinnamon bun of a snek in a fight anyway.
 
Sigh. We could try to break the ritual with Miracle? Or use a research action on it? Or mind-control the daemon into trying to break it itself?

[X] Crake
 
MTB said:
Someone must help build the (lawful) good part of our afterlife, after all ...
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Eh, not really.

I mean, Imperial Dream's gonna be the biggest bestest Lawful Neutral-est afterlife ever, yes-

But all other Gods on the "registered Pantheon" only gonna use it as a battery, not directly governing it.
Or even parts of it.

Having any new soul be given a choice to go into an afterlife of any Imperial God, or stay in ID and halp the Empire by generating spirit-income is good.

Having any God take part in shaping of ID, seems far less so.

Would have us surrendering a lot of control... and binding us too closely to them metaphysically.

There's a reason why we won't use Heart Trees for any of it, in spite of being quite far on research-tree for em.
TalonofAnathrax said:
Sigh. We could try to break the ritual with Miracle? Or use a research action on it? Or mind-control the daemon into trying to break it itself?

[X] Crake
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Ritual =/= the subtle corrupting amulets spread all around.

And even of ritual itself can wait for an RA to break it (not really), those actively make more Daemon-worshippers.
Zathir seems a good way to track them all down now that we know abou them.
 
A good reason to involve Zathir here is that he could get the credit for this. And since he's very personable he could really make something of it. As a newly re-ascended god he needs the worship anyways, so him getting some more at the expense of the Seven is a good thing.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Good night guys, see you tomorrow as we move on to more of the major Riverlander Houses like the Bracken-Blackwood feud and cap off the Ghyscari interludes.
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HAHA, no. We can put off that an update or three.

Next we take care of Lychester, then thread the needle on Keath with Rhaella's help, then... sigh. Finish up with the Brackens and Blackwoods.
 
Duesal said:
Because it's got a moronic romance at the center of a family feud with way too many echos of Rhaegar.
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To be fair, neither of them is abducting the other yet.

Way I figure it we should offer the happy couple a fief in Essos, and in the next generation we can make one of their kids the heir to both Brackens and Blackwoods after they've started another of their miniature wars and finally given us reasons to throw them out altogether.

And if they give us reasons sooner, we can move that up to right now. A happy couple needs wedding presents after all.
 
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065tdsa said:
To be fair, neither of them is abducting the other yet.
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This shouldn't be something we applaud them over.
065tdsa said:
Way I figure it we should offer the happy couple a fief in Essos, and in the next generation we can make one of their kids the heir to the Westerosi Brackens and Blackwoods after they've managed to piss us off beyond all reason.
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If they piss us off beyond reason I'd rather just confiscate their family lines and execute anyone necessary.
 
Duesal said:
This shouldn't be something we applaud them over.

If they piss us off beyond reason I'd rather just confiscate their family lines and execute anyone necessary.
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See the thing is confiscation is kind of difficult to justify politically, but giving the fief to someone responsible who happens to have a valid claim on both is just fine even by the most conservative.

Considering what continent we're on, no abductions is actually a pretty high bar. If they aren't doing anything untoward beyond the courtship itself then they honestly deserve our applause. No mucking about with magic they don't understand, no assassination attempts and no children out of wedlock, that's all we can possibly expect here.
 
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Duesal said:
If they piss us off beyond reason I'd rather just confiscate their family lines and execute anyone necessary.
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Do they have any reason to hate us Targaryens (barring the Rebellion) at all? The way I see it, is that they are more interested at killing each other than caring a cow's prick at us.
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
Do they have any reason to hate us Targaryens (barring the Rebellion) at all? The way I see it, is that they are more interested at killing each other than caring a cow's prick at us.
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Problem is both will want them to rule on their favor over all the many feuds they have going on, and the one who doesn't get it will side against us. Hence why I feel that tossing out the entire extended families and giving both lands to one person will probably be the way to go.
 
065tdsa said:
See the thing is confiscation is kind of difficult to justify politically, but giving the fief to someone responsible who happens to have a valid claim on both is just fine even by the most conservative.

Considering what continent we're on, no abductions is actually a pretty high bar. If they aren't doing anything untoward beyond the courtship itself then they honestly deserve our applause. No mucking about with magic they don't understand, no assassination attempts and no children out of wedlock, that's all we can possibly expect here.
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If they fuck up as Houses enough for us to even be considering anything this drastic, we will have a very strong case for simply confiscating the lands. I don't expect it to ever come to this, but we're definitely not locked in to trying to find a rightful heir. Confiscating the lands would be well within our rights if the house in question causes too much trouble. In your proposed scenario you're clearly expecting this to spiral out of control, and I see no reason why we wouldn't simply make the lands imperial property instead.
Jack vile Ripper said:
Do they have any reason to hate us Targaryens (barring the Rebellion) at all? The way I see it, is that they are more interested at killing each other than caring a cow's prick at us.
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I don't have a list of the people Aerys and Rhaegar killed, but if either Blackwood or Bracken had family among the dead they probably won't be thrilled about us.
 
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