If you use base 12 tho, then. .1 = 1/12(Dec) and .01 = 1/144 (Dec). So to move a decimal you still just multiply by 10(dodecimal-12) which is 12(dec). All the glory of the metric system still works, except we have two more objects to represent 10 & 11. Except now 1/3 = 4/12 = .4(dodecimal). You basically get less infinitely repeating decimal representations of common fractions and the multiplication tables taught to kids have far more symmetry making early education easier.

Sure you can do it, humans are highly adaptable but everyone has an easier time with their 10X tables than their 12X tables even in the earliest stages of education before we develop norms.

Base 10 allows straightforward scaling up and down while base 12 does not.

E.g.

10*0.15=1.5
100*0.15=15

12*0.15=1.8
144*0.15=21.6
 
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Sure you can do it, humans are highly adaptable but everyone has an easier time with their 10X tables than their 12X tables even in the earliest stages of education before we develop norms.
Uhh, again I'm not advocating we change anything. From a purely abstract perspective, I'm saying some mathematicians argue that dodecimal (base 12) is superior for every day life, which is the only place the choice really matters because professional are by definition trained, and thus convention matters little. Look up how the multiplication tables look in dodecimal, it's pretty cool.

Lots of symmetry which makes memorization easier, and hypothetically teaching kids their multiplication tables.
 
Uhh, again I'm not advocating we change anything. From a purely abstract perspective, I'm saying some mathematicians argue that dodecimal (base 12) is superior for every day life, which is the only place the choice really matters because professional are by definition trained, and thus convention matters little. Look up how the multiplication tables look in dodecimal, it's pretty cool.

Lots of symmetry which makes memorization easier, and hypothetically teaching kids their multiplication tables.

I'm just about to go to a Christmas function with free alcohol so while I have every intention of looking up these tables...
 
I don't think you understand how changing the base of a number system works. In dodecimal 12 (dodec) is 14. So in dodecimal

10 *.15 =1.5 too.

Its just that the decimal equivalent is 12 *.118 =1.416 with rounding because base 12 numbers don't look great in base 10.

Switching bases is annoying, which is why you'd never change it once it's established. The idea is that if we'd happened to start with base 12, certain math aspects of daily life would be marginally simpler. It's fun, but pointless.
 
Excellent omake @Crake. I love Perwyn's confusion on how to act around Alinor, in many ways it is emblematic of both the changing times and the more personal sort of bewilderment Viserys' personal choices of company and friends can cause. Most even in Braavos would try to hide Alinor's past at least to the level of open secret whereas in this case it's actually open. Perwyn certainly found the way to stand out, but he's not sure just what that mans.

Sandor's great too, it's very telling that he's gotten to the point of trying to get his foul moods to be useful in sparing rather than isolating himself. He's also channeling at least a bit of that mood considering what it must be like in KL of which he has no fond memories.
 
Excellent omake @Crake. I love Perwyn's confusion on how to act around Alinor, in many ways it is emblematic of both the changing times and the more personal sort of bewilderment Viserys' personal choices of company and friends can cause. Most even in Braavos would try to hide Alinor's past at least to the level of open secret whereas in this case it's actually open. Perwyn certainly found the way to stand out, but he's not sure just what that mans.

Sandor's great too, it's very telling that he's gotten to the point of trying to get his foul moods to be useful in sparing rather than isolating himself. He's also channeling at least a bit of that mood considering what it must be like in KL of which he has no fond memories.

Well, a regular King would have to hide the fact their personal steward was once a high class prostitute.

Viserys is a dragon, and therefore Doesn't Give A Fuck (and Neither Should You, being implicit). Perwyn is a fast learner though.

It's also telling that for Sandor, this is one of the 'good' moods.
 
@DragonParadox Can we get the god list overhaul sometime soon?
Is there any need to?
So far, all the gods we got into In-Character have been written in on the main page, iirc.

In fair bit of detail, too.

I'd rather get Planar Rumors over that, any day.

To think of it, we haven't gotten reports on Wyverns' performance for the last month either...
So it'll be a 2-month report in one.
 
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What Grafts would be unproblematic then?
If she doesn't make draconic grafts for political reasons and undead and most fiendish ones are propably not something we would allow without safety measures, she's pretty limited in that regard.

Mundane bodymods and maybe elemental Grafts only?
Or Kyton-Stuff?

We don't have the good stuff from the Aberrations yet, I think.

Not that important, I'm more interested in SD's taste for aesthetic changes than the functionality anyway.

Edit: Are plant-grafts a thing yet? I know Azel invented them for the Praetorians, but I don't think any exist IC for now.
 
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Interlude DCXLVII: Art of Flesh and Flame
Art of Flesh and Flame

Twenty First Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

Although Elaheh Marita was no stranger to heat, it was the stale dry heat of Heaven's Shore, pungent with the scent of brimstone that wafted from the bodies of devils, both living and dead, to seep into the ancient stones, not the yeasty humid miasma that hung low beneath the green leaves of Gogossos. Three sets of tracheal membranes opened in pleasure at the sensation as she stretched, rising from her night's meditations. Something made a strange wet creak... Damn, that joint needs some work, it's not supposed to pivot that way... though, hmm, maybe it could... perhaps with mithral now that I have a steady supply.

With such thoughts of self-improvement merrily humming at the back of her mind, the flesh-smith glided through her foyer, taking a moment to admire the mural of local serpentine art depicting twin nagas being born from the same egg coiling and twisting, almost but not quite one. No matter how many times one looked upon the work, it was impossible to tell if they were fighting or mating, dancing or spell-weaving. So it was with spirit and with flesh, ever-turned against itself in the ultimate goal of self-perfection, pain and pleasure both but steps upon the path. Elaheh had been tempted to include a plaque of some sort under it about the Quest for Knowledge and Self-Perfection, but she could not bring herself to be so gauche as to explain art.

Even if so few of her guests and patrons took the time to gaze upon the mural, eyes lingering instead upon the various anatomical and arcane plaques framed between the coils: metal sutures and infusions of stone, living flame poured into veins, and delicate spores re-molding flesh. Perhaps they were simply fascinated by the surfeit of noble metals, given their relative scarcity and use as a medium of exchange.

You are overthinking it again, Elaheh, the Apostle of Chains shook her head with an accompaniment of pleasantly musical clinks. They are just being practical. Not every customer is going to be looking into the art of change from the start. Some just want a metal hand, the better to slice the grasping vines from around their throats even when air-slits would be the more elegant solution.

Thankfully, there were some whose eyes were slowly opening to the beauty of the ever-changing form, the ones most ill at ease with the bodies that fickle chance had bestowed upon them, like Gretel whose form was already enhanced with the exotic energies of the Far Realm, but who so disliked their manifestation, or Vaelor and his desire to transcend the common phenotype of the Dragon-blooded. He had been disappointed when Elaheh explained that she would not work with draconic flesh lest the Lord of the Land take it ill, but the leaf-wings served him well, and the way they flushed red with blood when he was in the throes of strong emotion certainly hinted at his heritage. Perhaps a bit of fire would not go amiss to add to the the effect...

The thought cut off abruptly as she had to swerve aside to avoid a pair a Ledge Runners carrying another of their kind between them, rushing to the healer. From the rhythm of the spasms it was most likely a neurotoxin of some sort. Would he be willing to share the experience once he was capable of speaking again? The flesh-crafter wondered. The sheer variety of fascinating substances to be found in the southern jungles had been one of the reasons she had chosen to settle here rather than in Sorcerer's Deep, the heart of the growing realm, at least for the moment, or in Lys near the other more limited Flesh-Forge.

It would have been practically impossible to enact her current royal commission there. The adamantine bones of the hadhayosh had to be independently forged by azer mage-smiths and carved with runes of fire using awls dipped in devil's blood then blessed by priests of the Serpent God to remove unwanted affinity, before one could even begin growing the flesh from a basis of ember lichen. Even better, the sheer scope of the Forge's facilities meant that one could, to a degree, automate the process of cultivating the correct strain, leaving Elaheh with enough time on her hands to tinker.

So it was that when she approached the Garden of Renewal, where convalescent patients and newborn creations lingered for observation, she was able to ask complex questions about range of motion, balance, and even elemental attunement which would have been difficult or impossible to answer with the bull's original primal awareness. It had not even been necessary to increase the size of the brain case, merely to allow neural tissue to colonize the inside of its horns. A pity Tanura was not interested in further enhancements for the moment.

Reforging the Brass Bull Progress 12/12: Complete

Hadhayosh Intelligence Heightened: +5 INT (Total 8)



"Plenty of new things to see and to do in this new world without trying to figure out lightning horns, with me a creature of fire," the flame-bull had proclaimed and no amount of explications about volcanic lightning had been enough to sway him, but Elaheh did not regret the attempt. It had been fascinating to converse with a mind so ancient yet so new.

OOC: I'm going to need a vote on where you guys want to ask Tanura to go. He's a little adrift right now since it has been so long since he was free and the enhancements to his intelligence have made for quite a shift in perspective.
 
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For reference purposes before we start voting on the new chapter.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Nov 22, 2019 at 5:07 AM, finished with 86 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Include Lolliston armsmen, perhaps even the lord himself, what you are likely to find within will go a long way to persuading Lord Luther of the need for your aid.
    -[X] So long as you are actually reasonably sure you are on the right trail, otherwise you will deal with this as an object lesson that not everything is as it appears, and that in itself the vector for this blight can be as overlooked as simple disdain for the people suffering under your own nose. If Lord Lolliston can't bring himself to care about the fates of the people beneath his rule, one will find many insidious influences all too happy to take advantage of that fact, sappers in a siege of mortal will.
 
...Oh My God.

@DragonParadox, I'm in love.

This character. This Elaheh. This surgeon/crafter...

She's beautiful.

Her monologues are grotesque, bloody, and delicate. Less of a meat cleaver, and more of an intricate and sharp surgical knife.

A beauty so alien and so gruesome from human mind. With violence and sadism not her main drive, but that of a passion! A passion, banal and depraved!

So similar to a Haemonculus...

I LOVE HER!!! CAN YOU WRITE MORE OF HER AND HER PROJECTS!!! I WISH TO SEE MORE HIDEOUS ABOMINATIONS THAT SHE HAS FORGED IN THAT SQUELCHING FORGE OF HERS!!!!!!

*shriek of depraved pleasure*

Give me more, more of her arts!!!
 
Art of Flesh and Flame

Twenty First Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

Although Elaheh Marita was no stranger to heat, it was the stale dry heat of Heaven's Shore, pungent with the scent of brimstone that wafted from the bodies of devils, both living and dead, to seep into the ancient stones, not the yeasty humid miasma that hung low beneath the green leaves of Gogossos. Three sets of tracheal membranes opened in pleasure at the sensation as she stretched, rising from her night's meditations. Something made a strange wet creak... Damn, that joint needs some work, it's not supposed to pivot that way... though hmm maybe it could... perhaps with mithral now that I have a steady supply.

With such thoughts of self-improvement merrily humming at the back of her mind, the flesh-smith glided through her foyer, taking a moment to admire the mural of local serpentine art depicting twin nagas being born from the same egg coiling and twisting, almost but not quite one. No matter how many times one looked upon the work, it was impossible to tell if they were fighting or mating, dancing or spell-weaving. So it was with spirit and with flesh, ever-turned against itself in the ultimate goal of self-perfection, pain and pleasure both but steps upon the path. Elaheh had been tempted to include a plaque of some sort under it about the Quest for Knowledge and Self-Perfection, but she could not bring herself to be so gauche as to explain art.

Even if so few of her guests and patrons took the time to gaze upon the mural, eyes lingering instead upon the various anatomical and arcane plaques framed between the coils: metal sutures and infusions of stone, living flame poured into veins, and delicate spores re-molding flesh. Perhaps they were simply fascinated by the surfeit of noble metals, given their relative scarcity and use as a medium of exchange.

You are overthinking it again, Elaheh, the Apostle of Chains shook her head with an accompaniment of pleasantly musical clinks. They are just being practical. Not every customer is going to be looking into the art of change from the start. Some just want a metal hand the better to slice the grasping vines from around their throats even where air-slits would be the more elegant solution.

Thankfully, there were some whose eyes were slowly opening to the beauty of the ever-changing form, the ones most ill at ease with the bodies that fickle chance had bestowed upon them, like Gretel whose form was already enhanced with the exotic energies of the Far Realm, but who so disliked their manifestation, or Vaelor and his desire to transcend the common phenotype of the Dragon-blooded. He had been disappointed when Elaheh explained that she would not work with draconic flesh lest the Lord of the Land take it ill, but the leaf-wings served him well, and the way they flushed red with blood when he was in the throes of strong emotion certainly hinted at his heritage. Perhaps a bit of fire would not go amiss to add the the effect...

The thought cut off abruptly as she had to swerve aside to avoid a pair a Ledge Runners carrying another of their kind between them, rushing to the healer. From the rhythm of the spasms it was likely a neurotoxin of some sort. Would he be willing to share the experience once he was capable of speaking again? The flesh-crafter wondered. The sheer variety of fascinating substances to be found in the southern jungles had been one of the reasons she had chosen to settle here rather than in Sorcerer's Deep, the heart of the growing realm, at least for the moment, or in Lys near the other more limited flesh-forge.

It would have been practically impossible to enact her current royal commission there. The adamant bones of the Hadhayosh had to be independently forged by azer mage-smiths and carved with runes of fire using awls dipped in devil's blood then blessed by priests of the Serpent God to remove unwanted affinity, before one could even begin growing the flesh, from a basis of ember lichen. Even better, the sheer scope of the forge's facilities meant that one could, to a degree, automate the process of cultivating the correct strain, leaving Elaheh with enough time on her hands to tinker.

So it was that that when she approached the Garden of Renewal, where convalescent patients and newborn creations lingered for observation, she was able to ask complex questions about range of motion, balance, and even elemental attunement which would have been difficult or impossible to answer with the bull's original primal awareness. It had not even been necessary to increase the size of the brain case, merely to allow neural tissue to colonize the inside of its horns. A pity Tanura was not interested in further enhancements for the moment.

Reforging the Brass Bull Progress 12/12: Complete

Hadhayosh Intelligence Heightened: +5 INT (Total 8)



"Plenty of new things to see and to do in this new world without trying to figure out lightning horns, with me a creature of fire," the flame-bull had proclaimed and no amount of explications about volcanic lightning had been enough to sway him, but Elaheh did not regret the attempt. It had been fascinating to converse with a mind so ancient yet so new.

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Here's an edited version of the chapter, @DragonParadox.
 
...Oh My God.

@DragonParadox, I'm in love.

This character. This Elaheh. This surgeon/crafter...

She's beautiful.

Her monologues are grotesque, bloody, and delicate. Less of a meat cleaver, and more of an intricate and sharp surgical knife.

A beauty so alien and so gruesome from human mind. With violence and sadism not her main drive, but that of a passion! A passion, banal and depraved!

So similar to a Haemonculus...

I LOVE HER!!! CAN YOU WRITE MORE OF HER AND HER PROJECTS!!! I WISH TO SEE MORE HIDEOUS ABOMINATIONS THAT SHE HAS FORGED IN THAT SQUELCHING FORGE OF HERS!!!!!!

*shriek of depraved pleasure*

Give me more, more of her arts!!!
While I'm not quite as overcome as Jack here, @DragonParadox, Elaheh is a really neat character with a unique perspective. I look forward to seeing more interludes as she spreads her "art".
 
Are you really sure it's a good idea to put brain matter on the horns? At least encase it in adamantine or something because it's really easy to break one of those suckers, and then he gets brain damage.
 
Are you really sure it's a good idea to put brain matter on the horns? At least encase it in adamantine or something because it's really easy to break one of those suckers, and then he gets brain damage.

The horns are even more resilient then the rest of the skull bones in material strength, though granted the form makes them more fragile so it comes out about even in the end.
 
Are you really sure it's a good idea to put brain matter on the horns? At least encase it in adamantine or something because it's really easy to break one of those suckers, and then he gets brain damage.
There shouldn't be any issue with expanding cranial capacity a little bit into the base of its six horns. Tanura is 52 feet tall, so the horns are at least 20 feet long, with bases three or four feet across where they join the skull, so they could reasonably house a significant amount of brain matter without being close to a point which might somehow be broken off. It's a magical godbull thing, after all, with Adamantine bones, tons of immunities, and DR 10/--. It should not be any easier to damage a horn so extensively than it would be to take its head off entirely.
 
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[X] Ask Tanura to remain in Goggossos for the time being while it acclimates to its newfound freedom and intellect. There are plenty of people there for him to interact with to get a better understanding of our society. Then in a few weeks or a month, if he wishes a change of scenery, we can transport him to a different place within the Imperium in order to experience it as well. We will help him find his place in the world, and a purpose, it just might take some time.
-[X] Mention to Tanura that we will soon be acting against the forces of one who would gladly makes slaves of all beings, though perhaps not in so gruesome a fashion as he was exploited by the Efreeti. Make it quite clear that his assistance in the endeavor is neither required nor expected, but that we would appreciate it nonetheless if he were to help. If he does not wish to fight, he could still serve as a guard in Sorcerer's Deep while we are otherwise occupied.
 
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