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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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[X] Goldfish
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[X] Goldfish
Interlude in beta.
Crake
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The only way I could be more ready was if I had already read the update.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Eh it's not that bad, I don't think either of them are engaged, and they haven't been eloping, just corresponding and plotting to convince their parents to let them marry, they're no way near Rhaegar stupidity.A man deluded by prophecy and convinced he needs to elope with a young noblewoman he definitely shouldn't be eloping with. Why does that sound familiar? 🤔
Oh right. Rhaegar.
He's an oracle or at least something close, considering her got that vision, there's probably a better than average chance this might work.
Also I do think this might work, it hasn't worked when kings and high lords have tried to force it, but with the groom and bride to be actually liking each other, the chance of their marriage helping burry old feuds actually become a reality.
I would say more ignore all the times it didn't work, they were forced, a marriage has a far better chance of fixing things, with the bride and groom liking each other, when the marriages were forced on the Houses, it probably just resulted in resentment, with the marriage being their idea, they will actively try to end the feud, which actually give it a chance of working.
I would say that's still not being fair to him, from what we have heard they weren't planning to elope, they were planning to somehow get their fathers to agree to let them marry, so not only didn't Hoster Blackwood kidnap anyone, he didn't spirit the girl away without her Familys knowledge either, he's a romantic fool of course, but he is actually working with mostly good sense towards his goal, what with how he was corresponding with her and planning their marriage out, instead of taking her to the nearest Heart Tree to make their vows,
He did not abscond with her, she's still with her family, he exchanged letters with her and plotted with her to force their parents to let them marry, but they didn't run away to be married, and that's an actually important distinction, from the sound of it they haven't had sex either, so Bracken can't get mad about Hoster despoiling his daughter out of wedlock either, this is not exactly the best idea, but at least unlike Rhaegar, he's going about his stupid idea in a semi-intelligent way.
It's still going to be something of a mess, but they didn't screw up a tenth as badly as Rhaegar did, even if we don't count the smaller scale of the consequences of such a screwup(they could at most throw the Riverlands into war, as opposed to all the Seven Kingdoms)
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Two of those marriages were recorded to be quite happy, it still did not do anything to stop the families feuding. It's easier to say your son/daughter was tricked or is manipulated against you then it is to let go of a century old feud.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Yeah but it still give a better basis for trying, just because the previous tries failed don't believe it can never succeed, and them being in love mean there's only 2 recorded failures as opposed to many recorded failures, it do make the prospect seem a bit less bleak.
Add in that the Blackwood Weirwood has been restored, it's a time of change for the whole world, and I can definitely see why they think it might work, it's not guaranteed to work of course, but I think it do have a real chance of working.
Interlude DCXL: Bones of a Lost Age
Bones of a Lost Age
Twentieth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC
Dust swirled down through the tower, glinting palely in the light of the mage lanterns as though possessed of a will of its own. And that will seemingly desired nothing more than to make Jon sneeze at the worst posibile moment and embarrass himself in front of Lord Stark's guests. He hated the idea of holding his nose, it would look stupid. On the other hand if he sneezed on some rare text and it broke and scattered... The boy's hand surreptitiously darted towards his nose while Maester Luwin was pointing out something on a high shelf...
"Ah finally, that's the Old Tongue alright, though I've never seen it written this way before," the Skagosi singer said as he retrieved the text. "Good thing there's a tune for times like this." With that he began chanting in the swift-rising and slow-falling tongue that was supposedly the same as the runes on the standing stones.
"How does that work?" Jon wondered aloud as he tried to see past the lady with the crossbow without getting too close in the crowded confines of the tower.
Though he had not expected to be heard, the young merchant with the foreign name, whose true nature he had some suspicion of from Dany's tales, cleared his throat behind him. "If you want to read along you can use this." he said as he handed Jon a scroll.
As Jon's fingers brushed the parchment he could feel the slight hum of magic woven into the words. The boy had heard about such things from Ser Halys, but never handled one. "Can I, I mean..." Jon was caught between gratitude at the offer and not wanting to explain that he did not have the money to pay back Wisdom Xor for such a thing.
"I have many such scrolls and no true need for them even so, one more pair of eyes looking at the text might catch something others do not," came the soft reply. Though he could not turn around to look Jon could hear the smile in it.
Decision made, he drew forth the scroll and intoned the spell upon it, the the flowing glyphs of High Valyrian familiar from his journeys beyond the waking world. "That's why the letters on the document look strange," the boy said even as the letters of the Old Tongue he was supossed to read revolved into understanding. "The First Men carved their letters into stone before they lay it down on parchment and that is most of the script that came down to us today, but this account is written in a way that's meant for parchment. What did Ser Halys say the Braavosi called it...? Shortarm? No, shorthand I think."
"What's it used for?" Danar asked, eyes still glued to the text and his gaze growing grimmer by the moment.
"Uhm... writing quickly and I guess keeping secrets," Jon replied, not sure why it mattered. The document seemed to just be an account of old legends from Barrowtown written by some Brandon Stark long forgotten by time, such that no one even remembered if he had been the uncle, cousin or brother of a king, or perhaps an even more distant relation. Then he got about one third down the parchment and had to read again to make sure his eyes and the spell upon them were working right.
"Definitely keeping secrets," Danar's lady wife said grimly. "Called them Barrow Kings or Barrow Lords, the Dustins would have done their damnedest to burn this."
So did she take the bones of the Old King from the tall mountain in the lands of summer where the Earth Touched the Sky and grind them to powder fine as chalk, and with them she dyed a cloak of Mourner's White and wore it ever after around her shoulders. Thus was she called the Lady of Dust ever after and from her the Dustins were born and reigned far and wide, but the Cloak of Bone lay heavy upon them and to each one bequeathed the weight of death defiled, until at last the Thirteenth Lord Dustin had a great barrow built and took it with him into the long dark. From that day the power of the First King lay under their feet, not on their shoulders. Some say that's why the Starks conquered the Barrow Kings, I don't hold with it myself, but let the tale be kept in Winterfell against the future should there be some truth in old tales, or the First King arise from his defiled tomb.
"What's the mountain where the 'Earth Touched the Sky'? The Dustins were descended of the First Kings, the Barrow King...." Jon trailed off confused.
"There never was a king of all the First Men until Aegon the dragon fancied the title for his own, and even then it was a lie," Danar recounted. "But a First King... the first to make the crossing and take land in Westeros aye, he must have existed and a mighty wyrd upon his bones for any sorcerer, or as in this case sorceress, bold enough to steal them away..."
"The mountain where the Earth Touched the Sky might be a reference that this king was yet a worshiper of Mother Earth and Father Sky, where the first Lady Dustin kept to the Old Gods," Wisdom Xor said thoughtful and sad all at once. "Likely she did not fear the wrath of dead gods..."
OOC: And here we have it, the defilement at the heart of the mystery, there is indeed a 'First King' buried under the Great Barrow, but he is no friend of House Dustin nor any other in the North.
Hey, you wanted Westros politics. This is what Westros politics is. A lot more houses to go too. Let's see what the other ones have going on.
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Ok, call the A team for a full run? This seems a bit high level even with Richard there.
Richard is not there, Sandor is.
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It's okay. It could be worse. At least it wasn't a Lord Paramounts daughter or a foreign queen. Or anything fey related. Although with that vision and this picture perfect recipe for tragedy...maybe it is.
Ok yeah no. First Human King in Westros as an undead. That's too much for them. I say go dragon.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Vote closed. Not exactly a surprise, what won but such is the nature of exposition. I hope you guys can bear with it.
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Neat.
Bound power in a reliable artifact.
Protected by the now likely undead 13th Lord Dustin, not be some greater hero or monster.
This is perfect conditions for the minor party we have here.
Bound power in a reliable artifact.
Protected by the now likely undead 13th Lord Dustin, not be some greater hero or monster.
This is perfect conditions for the minor party we have here.
Goldfish
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Very cool development in the latest interlude, @DragonParadox. More great world building, too.
I hope Xor changes his standard spell loadout some. A lot of his normal spells aren't really that great for dealing with Undead.
I hope Xor changes his standard spell loadout some. A lot of his normal spells aren't really that great for dealing with Undead.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Dany, wryly: "Are they ever?"
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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You can add 5 spells to his list now you realize? He learned some this month.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Yeah, good point. I'll see about coming up with a list when I get home.
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@DragonParadox, unless it's salient to a future plot point (I'm just reading the fight with Baelor the "Blessed", would you mind revealing OOC how compromised the Alchemist's Guild was with Fiends? Knowing or unknowing? Viserys solution was very final given how little he or we the reader really knew about the situation.