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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Given how consistently we're able to retrain feats, why has Fiery Burst hung around so long? Is there something I'm missing? Seems to do 9d6 fire damage at best if you have a 9th level fire spell, which is like 27 fire damage average. 36 with Fire Mastery. Hardly seems worth a feat.
 
Absoloot said:
Given how consistently we're able to retrain feats, why has Fiery Burst hung around so long? Is there something I'm missing? Seems to do 9d6 fire damage at best if you have a 9th level fire spell, which is like 27 fire damage average. 36 with Fire Mastery. Hardly seems worth a feat.
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All day long. Viserys literally could walk along an army and fry them without taking a sweat.
 
Absoloot said:
Given how consistently we're able to retrain feats, why has Fiery Burst hung around so long? Is there something I'm missing? Seems to do 9d6 fire damage at best if you have a 9th level fire spell, which is like 27 fire damage average. 36 with Fire Mastery. Hardly seems worth a feat.
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Although it's been a long time since he was so low on spell slots that Fiery Burst got serious use, it's nice to have as an emergency option (and to thumb our noses at the Vancian magic system). The biggest reason we've kept it, however, is that it boosts the caster level of all Fire spells Viserys casts by +1. Thanks to Fire Mastery, caster level remains relevant, and every single caster level we can squeeze out is important when we're routinely facing enemies with 32+ SR.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Nov 4, 2019 at 5:05 AM, finished with 89 posts and 17 votes.
  • [X] Meet Garin and Selyse's babies, then...
    [X] Visit the Githzerai to claim your commission and learn what powers the dagger may hold
    -[X] If Jeyne is willing to meet with the Githzerai, ask her to accompany us to their monastery. We might be able to seek out additional training for her in the use of her psionic powers.
    -[X] After discussing the dagger, show the Githzerai the statue of the malformed illithid we found in Faerex's hoard. Do they have any idea what it was supposed to depict?
    --[X] Use illusory magic to show them what it looks like. A three-dimensional magical picture can be worth 10,000 words, after all.
    [X] Meet Garin and Selyse's babies
    [X] Takesis
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Artemis1992 said:
Ask them about the situation in Nirvana please?
Hitting the Deep Ones everywhere is the best possible solution, so we should find out if it's possible or if we have to focus on the Material and hope they can't get too many reinforcements.
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I want to know that too, I would also like to get in contact with whatever fortresses they are allied with, a Fortress would be a perfect place to plant a Weirwood, they're already defending from everything the Daemons and Illithids can throw at them, so the Weirwood wouldn't need much extra protection from us.

And most importantly of all, I want to trade with the fortresses, I'm sure they have tons of enemy corpses they aren't using.
 
tarrangar said:
I want to know that too, I would also like to get in contact with whatever fortresses they are allied with, a Fortress would be a perfect place to plant a Weirwood, they're already defending from everything the Daemons and Illithids can throw at them, so the Weirwood wouldn't need much extra protection from us.

And most importantly of all, I want to trade with the fortresses, I'm sure they have tons of enemy corpses they aren't using.
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Keep in mind that showing up in a new place and asking for any dead bodies the locals can spare might be viewed a bit strangely.
 
Azel said:
Keep in mind that showing up in a new place and asking for any dead bodies the locals can spare might be viewed a bit strangely.
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"And if it's no bother, we'd like to collect all of the dead bodies you might have lying around."
":???:"
"Also, has someone told you yet of our creature-of-your-spec service? No? Well, you define the creature characteristics, we build it in nearly any numbers, and you pay. Animal intelligence you can order and pay directly, sapient creatures get a vote what they want to do, so you better be prepared to make an offer if you want their services. And we offer a substantial discount if you supply some of the raw materials."
"Any numbers? Wait, what raw materials?"
"Our production methods are efficient, but there is a constraint coming from available resources. And, of course, creating and animating the produce also takes some time. Hundreds is no problem, thousands takes some time, but millions - we are talking decades.
And raw materials - standard reagents, and flesh."
"Oh, so, ... wait a moment, when you said you wanted dead bodies from us - what exactly were you going to do with them?"
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
@DragonParadox, I reckon that there are other Valyrians, aside from the Original Fourteen, whom are able to don the mantle of a Dragon, yes? Those of Viserys' lot.
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No way to know if more of them turned into dragons, though given the veil of secrecy around the true nature of dragons they would have had to be careful about the transformation in later ages.

Anyway vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 4, 2019 at 7:05 AM, finished with 100 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] Goldfish
    [X] Meet Garin and Selyse's babies
    [X] Takesis
    [X] Meet Garin and Selyse's babies, then...
    [X] Visit the Githzerai to claim your commission and learn what powers the dagger may hold
    -[X] If Jeyne is willing to meet with the Githzerai, ask her to accompany us to their monastery. We might be able to seek out additional training for her in the use of her psionic powers.
    -[X] After discussing the dagger, show the Githzerai the statue of the malformed illithid we found in Faerex's hoard. Do they have any idea what it was supposed to depict?
    --[X] Use illusory magic to show them what it looks like. A three-dimensional magical picture can be worth 10,000 words, after all.
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Azel said:
Keep in mind that showing up in a new place and asking for any dead bodies the locals can spare might be viewed a bit strangely.
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Which is of why we need to go now, first we make contact, then we trade them some attack beasts from the Fungus Forge, then we tell them that they're made though a nature god powered complex, that recycle dead bodies, and offer them the option to pay in their enemies bodies for reinforcements.

It's going to take a bit of time to win their trust before we can make such an offer, not that much as these are Celestials, and so as long as we show a representative of theirs the forge, they should be able to recognize that there's nothing sinister about the process, but there's probably still going to be some waiting time, while they check our trustworthiness, so the sooner we begin the process, the sooner we will be finished.
 
Duesal said:
Of course, but new markets are always nice. Celestials are annoyingly hard to buy, so I'll take any avenue I have.
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I don't think there's slave trade in the Fortresses like there is in Heaven, the Fortresses are still under full Celestial control, the Devils only conquered Heaven not Nirvana or Elysium, Heaven is the least damaged of the Celestial Realms, but it's also the Celestial Realm, where the remnants are most corrupted.
 
tarrangar said:
I don't think there's slave trade in the Fortresses like there is in Heaven, the Fortresses are still under full Celestial control, the Devils only conquered Heaven not Nirvana or Elysium, Heaven is the least damaged of the Celestial Realms, but it's also the Celestial Realm, where the remnants are most corrupted.
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There's probably something there. We know that raiders have to go to Nirvana and Elysium to replenish their stock. Slave markets aren't exclusively going to be in the end zones, there will be plenty closer to the source too.

Just like slave markets aren't just in the Free Cities in canon, there's always a choice to go straight to the source in Slaver's Bay.
 
Abhishek M said:
"Fertilizer."
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"That wasn't a euphemism, by the way."

Also, gack. If we want to recruit Celestials, we could literally just spin the wheel and summon them in a circle off-plane, somewhere on PoE or wherever. If we get a Celestial, we can try recruiting them. If we get a fiend... well, if they're from Mammon's lot, we could try recruiting them. If they're from some other Archduke: "Hey, so... this is embarrassing, but we can't spare the spell slots to banish you, so it is with upmost honesty when I say that having Ser Richard over there cut you in half isn't actually personal."

Or go to the Celestial Planes, yes.
 
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