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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Logos said:
Hmmm... if pressure directly correlates to light levels, does that interact at all with non-natural light or spells?

There are interesting implications to be had if, say, a light spell can bring a bubble of safety among otherwise deadly pressures, or if a darkness spell causes damage to those caught in it. Even if magic light doesn't work for this, there might be some novel industrial processes enabled by isolating items from all light to invoke massive pressure. Diamonds, for example, might be forged by applying sufficient pressure to some carbon.

On the other hand, if this is the case we should probably be checking on our trade goods in their steel boxes to ensure they haven't been crushed.
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Something as short-lived as a light spell would not normally alter pressure, it takes years or even centuries for it to shift with ambient light levels. That said there are magic items called Delver's Lights that work much faster and do create zones of safety, but it's a brave traveler who trusts them too far. All it takes is one dispel.
 
DragonParadox said:
Something as short-lived as a light spell would not normally alter pressure, it takes years or even centuries for it to shift with ambient light levels. That said there are magic items called Delver's Lights that work much faster and do create zones of safety, but it's a brave traveler who trusts them too far. All it takes is one dispel.
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And what about pebbles with that Everfire effect from Phoenixes?
 
DragonParadox said:
They will technically do the same just very slowly, anywhere from a few years to a few centuries.
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So what if we used Delvers Lights to effect an area and then spread them to cover it with light before the effect ran out? Would the pressure be lessened even if not to the full level of the Delvers Light?

Massgamer said:
Some kind of genie, likely efreeti, was in the stranger's box?
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An Elder one maybe? She called it a Formless Flame and it didnt twist her wish as much as you would think it could. Implies one slightly less malevolent than the average one right now. Who knows maybe we just found a remnant from before the Efreeties corruption?
 
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Abhishek M said:
So what if we used Delvers Lights to effect an area and then spread them to cover it with light before the effect ran out? Would the pressure be lessened even if not to the full level of the Delvers Light?
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The preasure would spring back as quickly as the magic of the Delver's Light changed it, sort of like a law of arcane reciprocity. A quick change in one direction leads to a quick change in the other.
 
DragonParadox said:
The preasure would spring back as quickly as the magic of the Delver's Light changed it, sort of like a law of arcane reciprocity. A quick change in one direction leads to a quick change in the other.
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Does that imply a slow change wont case a surge back if the light source is dispelled? Like it sould be a few years where you could fix it before the Pressure got too bad?
 
DragonParadox said:
OOC: And here we are Riz'Neth, not quite two beings but as close as they come. Just to be clear the heads do not have names. The first one to think something is always One, and the head that answers or echoes is always the Other and it changes back and forth, while thoughts had in concert are always the province of Two.
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I like this POV and mindset(s) it gives character. Best way I can imagine it is two halfs of same brain going back and forth with each other but also can easily act as one.
Abhishek M said:
An Elder one maybe? She called it a Formless Flame and it didnt twist her wish as much as you would think it could. Implies one slightly less malevolent than the average one right now. Who knows maybe we just found a remnant from before the Efreeties corruption?
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Either way we should take it away from at the very least dick magic user if not outright evil.
 
DragonParadox said:
A slow change will cause just as slow a return to equilibrium yes.
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Hehe still implies a sellers market for Permanent Light items. Check them everywhere around you territory and let it expand slowly. Planes of fire and Positive Energy should be key traders for them. Hey speaking of where does the light in the Plane of Air come from? Is there a Sun?


Hey would enchanting the Fire Whale Gems with the Phoenixed Everfire effect give something better? Kinda want to research uses for those gems. They should be good for fire spell enchantments right?
 
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Abhishek M said:
Hehe still implies a sellers market for Permanent Light items. Check them everywhere around you territory and let it expand slowly. Planes of fire and Positive Energy should be key traders for them. Hey speaking of where does the light in the Plane of Air come from? Is there a Sun?


Hey would enchanting the Fire Whale Gems with the Phoenixed Everfire effect give something better? Kinda want to research uses for those gems. They should be good for fire spell enchantments right?
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The light on the plane of air is omnidirectional, it seems to come from every point in space at the same time

*rolls knowledge arcana*

It would likely get a somewhat stronger light if the gem was one predisposed to fire magic
 
DragonParadox said:
"While they weren't watching I took the red cloak and slipped from the room," the skin-changer moistened her lips with her tongue, almost like she too could taste the air sensing peril. "Three days later I heard Grom died, killed by the other chiefs, some said for boasting too hard, but I talked to Old Elda who taught me to heal and he said the Wolf died of no mortal blade, but something fouler. I knew then, I knew that t'was Drokha that did it and I ran. I did not run away far enough not to see the fire behind me. I think Drokha opened the box again to get another wish."

Silence fell heavy as the darkness of the deep earth. "I thought he'd died at least, but the bastard came to me in a dream, said I'd been clever to take the cloak, but he'd cursed me to never be able to work against him. I never dared test the edge of that promise until today and it almost killed me... almost." Her smile flashed white as the beasts of the jungle before they pounced in the night. "Now I'm free, now he'll pay."
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@DragonParadox, so now the hunt continues in the Dreamlands?
 
Very neat Riz'Neth POV, @DragonParadox. I think you nailed the alien mindset of a mutant Serpentfolk mage, and the dual minds was cool, too.

That box was serious business. At least three Wishes, and not insignificant ones either. What was the stranger? Why didn't they use the box themselves? I can't wait for the next installment.
 
DragonParadox said:
The light on the plane of air is omnidirectional, it seems to come from every point in space at the same time

*rolls knowledge arcana*

It would likely get a somewhat stronger light if the gem was one predisposed to fire magic
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What about night? Is it always day? And Storms do they get darker the worse it is or is it liked to the temperature there? Like darkness beings hail or something?

Would Firewhale gems have an alignment with fire? And if so how much.

Goldfish said:
Very neat Riz'Neth POV, @DragonParadox. I think you nailed the alien mindset of a mutant Serpentfolk mage, and the dual minds was cool, too.

That box was serious business. At least three Wishes, and not insignificant ones either. What was the stranger? Why didn't they use the box themselves? I can't wait for the next installment.
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My main worry is the implication can still grant more. Like it's not somethi g that binds a genie until it Grant's wishes on release. It binds something that gives wishes on demand and rebinds it.
 
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Duesal said:
@DragonParadox, so now the hunt continues in the Dreamlands?
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Drokha spoke to her in dreams, thaty does not necessarily mean he is in the dreamlands physically

Abhishek M said:
What about night? Is it always day? And Storms do they get darker the worse it is or is it liked to the temperature there? Like darkness beings hail or something?

Would Firewhale gems have an alignment with fire? And if so how much.
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There are shifting areas of 'night' in the plane of air just as there are shifting clouds, moth move with the magic currents of the plane, though the Djinn have learned to maneuver both to an extent. They are not intrinsically linked either. You can have clear night move in, stormy day or really any combination.

AS for whale gems only some of them are magical enough to be considered attuned to fire.
 
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are shifting areas of 'night' in the plane of air just as there are shifting clouds, moth move with the magic currents of the plane, though the Djinn have learned to maneuver both to an extent. They are not intrinsically linked either. You can have clear night move in, stormy day or really any combination.
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So no shifts in air pressure? Or Gravity in the Plane of Earth? Nice addition to the Plane of Water though.
 
@Crake i think your guess on the identity of the stranger was spot on.
And i think we probably learned the identity of the Night King and his court, or his equivalent in the quest.
 
Abhishek M said:
So no shifts in air pressure? Or Gravity in the Plane of Earth? Nice addition to the Plane of Water though.
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There are shifts in air pressure on the plane of air, it's just no more predictable than earthly weather with thousands of chaotic systems interacting.

As for the plane of earth there is a constant gradient of gravity, with directions for heavyward and lightward. Earth is more dependable like that... baring crevices and quakes
 
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