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What is the rule regarding territory after a Brine Dragon kills another exactly? Does it work off conquest rules?
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What is the rule regarding territory after a Brine Dragon kills another exactly? Does it work off conquest rules?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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We can try to press the newly-freed territory to an amicable Brine if Relath knows any reliable guys - and start working with them roughly the same way we did with Xorn.
Would get us a constant stream of trade, if nothing else.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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@DragonParadox The best part is, with our embargo on Westerosi ships flying Baratheon or Lannister flags, getting Essosi trade goods in bulk should be really fucking difficult. So we're not walking into an already saturated market.
Bullion might be only about breaking even, but dragons love gold so unless they emptied out their entire reserves (which would be smart so obviously they didn't) not too much worse than our usual take.
Bullion might be only about breaking even, but dragons love gold so unless they emptied out their entire reserves (which would be smart so obviously they didn't) not too much worse than our usual take.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Fucking with Relath so much he wants you dead...
...I have some suspicion that we might like that dragon.
#RelathIsAnAssole
#WeMightHaveBeenThatGuy
- The one he is merely annoyed with in a young adult
- The one he would like to kill is old
If you can keep it sure. The plane of water is pretty chaotic
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So a CR 14 dragon has him pissed off? I mean...does he even need our help?
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*looks at Relath*
: Relath
Alias: The Roiling Tempest, The Dragon of Tolos
Age: Young Adult
Alignment: Lawfully Neutral
Race: Dragon (Brine)
Class: Sorcerer 2
Feats: Hover, Flyby Attack, Flyby Breath, Power Attack, Maximize Breath
Senses: Low-Light Vision, Darkvision (120 ft), Blindsense (60 ft), Keen Senses (4x as far in low light, twice as far in normal light)
Languages Spoken: Aquan, Draconic, Elven, Low Valyrian (Tolosi)
Description: A blue-green neck frill sweeps back from the head of this large dragon, leading to a body of shiny scales and fin-like crests.
HP: 168 (12d12+2d4+84)
AC: 10 + 3 (DEX) + 15 (Natural Armor) + 5 (Natural Armor; Amulet) + 5 (Wisdom; Belt) - 1 Size + 4 (Mage Armor) + 1 (Dodge; Channel Vigor) + 2 vs Evil = 42/44
Initiative: +3 (DEX) + 5 (Primal Instinct) = +8
Movement: 60 ft, Swim 60ft, Fly 200 ft + 30 ft (Anklets) = 230 ft (poor)
Attack: Bite +13 - 1 (Size) + 11 (STR) + 5 (Enhancement; Ring) + 1 (Haste; Channel Vigor) = +29 [2d6+16+5(Enhancement)]
Full Attack:
Spell Save: DC: 10 + 5 (CHA) + spell level
Immunities: Acid, Paralysis, Sleep, Possession/Mental Control, All Death Spells, Magical Death Effects, Energy Drain, and any Negative Energy Effects, Baleful Polymorph [Single use]
SR: 21
DR: 5/Magic
SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 8 + 6 (CON) + 5 (Resistance) + 2 = 19/21
REFLEX: 8 + 3 (DEX) + 5 (Resistance) + 1 (CV) + 2 = 17/19
WILL: 11 + 4 (WIS) + 5 (Resistance) + 2 = 20/22
STATS:
28 +4 = 32 (+11) Strength
11 +5 = 16 (+3) Dexterity
17 +5 = 22 (+6) Constitution
17 +5 = 22 (+6) Intelligence
14 +4 = 18 (+4) Wisdom
15 +5 = 20 (+5) Charisma
SKILLS:
Bluff: 18 + 5 (CHA) = 23
Concentration: 12 + 6 (CON) = 18
Diplomacy: 18 + 5 (CHA) + 4 (SYN) + 10 (Ring)= 37
Intimidate: 9 + 5 (CHA) + 2 (SYN) = 16
Knowledge (Arcana): 4 + 6 (INT) = 10
Knowledge (Nature): 15 + 6 (INT) + 2 (SYN) = 23
Knowledge (The Planes): 13 + 6 (INT) = 19
Listen: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Sense Motive: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Spellcraft: 8 + 6 (INT) + 2 (SYN) + 10 (Crown) = 26
Spot: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Survival: 12 + 4 (WIS) + 5 (Primal Instinct) = 21
Swim: 14 + 11 (STR) + 8 (Racial Bonus) = 33
Spells Known (Caster Level 7):
Level 0: Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Mage Hand, Message, Open/Close, Prestidigitation, Read Magic (6/day)
Level 1: Blood Wind, Charm Person, Mage Armor, Shield, Vanish (8/7/day)
Level 2: Alter Self, Scintillating Scales, Wings of Cover (7/day)
Level 3: Call of the Void, Primal Instinct (5/4/day)
Grimoire of High Arcana:
Level 1: Hoard Gullet
Level 2: Mirror Image, Protection from Arrows, Resist Energy, Rope Trick, See Invisibility
Spell-Like Abilities (Caster Level 14):
Anklets of Rapid Translocation:
Monk's Belt of Healing Vigor: +5 Constitution, +5 Dexterity
Ring of Tongues: Speak and understand any language at will as per Tongues.
Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1): Immune to all death spells, magical death effects, and energy drain, and any negative energy effects
Equipped Magic Items: Amulet of Protection from Evil (+5 Natural Armor), Anklets of Rapid Translocation, Beads of Newt Prevention (x3), Crown of Wisdom (+4 WIS, +10 Sense Motive), Monk's Belt of Healing Vigor (+5 CON, +5 DEX), Ring of Resistance +5 (+5 CHA, +5 INT, +10 Diplomacy), Ring of Sustenance (Slotless), Ring of Tongues, Ring of Mighty Fists (+5 Enhancement bonus to Unarmed & Natural Attacks), Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1)
Alias: The Roiling Tempest, The Dragon of Tolos
Age: Young Adult
Alignment: Lawfully Neutral
Race: Dragon (Brine)
Class: Sorcerer 2
Feats: Hover, Flyby Attack, Flyby Breath, Power Attack, Maximize Breath
Senses: Low-Light Vision, Darkvision (120 ft), Blindsense (60 ft), Keen Senses (4x as far in low light, twice as far in normal light)
Languages Spoken: Aquan, Draconic, Elven, Low Valyrian (Tolosi)
Description: A blue-green neck frill sweeps back from the head of this large dragon, leading to a body of shiny scales and fin-like crests.
HP: 168 (12d12+2d4+84)
AC: 10 + 3 (DEX) + 15 (Natural Armor) + 5 (Natural Armor; Amulet) + 5 (Wisdom; Belt) - 1 Size + 4 (Mage Armor) + 1 (Dodge; Channel Vigor) + 2 vs Evil = 42/44
Initiative: +3 (DEX) + 5 (Primal Instinct) = +8
Movement: 60 ft, Swim 60ft, Fly 200 ft + 30 ft (Anklets) = 230 ft (poor)
Attack: Bite +13 - 1 (Size) + 11 (STR) + 5 (Enhancement; Ring) + 1 (Haste; Channel Vigor) = +29 [2d6+16+5(Enhancement)]
Full Attack:
- Normal: Bite +29 (2d6+16), 2 Claws +24 (1d8+10), Tail Slap +24 (1d8+21), 2 Wings +24 (1d6+10)
- w/Unarmed Attacks: Unarmed +29/+29/+24/+19 (2d6+16), Bite +24 (2d6+16), 2 Claws +24 (1d8+10), Tail Slap +24 (1d8+21), 2 Wings +24 (1d6+10)
Spell Save: DC: 10 + 5 (CHA) + spell level
Immunities: Acid, Paralysis, Sleep, Possession/Mental Control, All Death Spells, Magical Death Effects, Energy Drain, and any Negative Energy Effects, Baleful Polymorph [Single use]
SR: 21
DR: 5/Magic
SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 8 + 6 (CON) + 5 (Resistance) + 2 = 19/21
REFLEX: 8 + 3 (DEX) + 5 (Resistance) + 1 (CV) + 2 = 17/19
WILL: 11 + 4 (WIS) + 5 (Resistance) + 2 = 20/22
STATS:
28 +4 = 32 (+11) Strength
11 +5 = 16 (+3) Dexterity
17 +5 = 22 (+6) Constitution
17 +5 = 22 (+6) Intelligence
14 +4 = 18 (+4) Wisdom
15 +5 = 20 (+5) Charisma
SKILLS:
Bluff: 18 + 5 (CHA) = 23
Concentration: 12 + 6 (CON) = 18
Diplomacy: 18 + 5 (CHA) + 4 (SYN) + 10 (Ring)= 37
Intimidate: 9 + 5 (CHA) + 2 (SYN) = 16
Knowledge (Arcana): 4 + 6 (INT) = 10
Knowledge (Nature): 15 + 6 (INT) + 2 (SYN) = 23
Knowledge (The Planes): 13 + 6 (INT) = 19
Listen: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Sense Motive: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Spellcraft: 8 + 6 (INT) + 2 (SYN) + 10 (Crown) = 26
Spot: 18 + 4 (WIS) = 22
Survival: 12 + 4 (WIS) + 5 (Primal Instinct) = 21
Swim: 14 + 11 (STR) + 8 (Racial Bonus) = 33
Spells Known (Caster Level 7):
Level 0: Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Mage Hand, Message, Open/Close, Prestidigitation, Read Magic (6/day)
Level 1: Blood Wind, Charm Person, Mage Armor, Shield, Vanish (8/7/day)
Level 2: Alter Self, Scintillating Scales, Wings of Cover (7/day)
Level 3: Call of the Void, Primal Instinct (5/4/day)
Grimoire of High Arcana:
Level 1: Hoard Gullet
Level 2: Mirror Image, Protection from Arrows, Resist Energy, Rope Trick, See Invisibility
Spell-Like Abilities (Caster Level 14):
- At will: Obscuring Mist, Speak with Animals (fish only), Water Breathing
- Water Breathing (Ex): A creature with this special ability can breathe underwater indefinitely. It can freely use any breath weapon, spells, or other abilities while submerged.
- Channel Vigor: Select one of the following effects, which can be changed as a Move Action. Currently using "Limbs" effect.
- Limbs: You gain the benefits of a haste spell.
- Mind: You gain a +4 competence bonus on Knowledge, Listen, and Spot skill checks and on ranged attack rolls.
- Spirit: You gain a +6 competence bonus on Will saving throws and Bluff and Intimidate checks.
- Torso: You gain a +6 competence bonus on Fortitude saving throws and concentration checks.
Anklets of Rapid Translocation:
- Benefit from a +30ft Enhancement bonus to flight speed.
- 3/Day use the Aerial Alacrity spell for up to seven minutes.
- 2/Day Instantly teleport up to 10 feet to an unoccupied destination within line of sight and line of effect. The wearer can teleport with objects, up to their maximum load, but cannot bring other creatures.
Monk's Belt of Healing Vigor: +5 Constitution, +5 Dexterity
- Wearer gains the AC (Wisdom bonus + 1) and Unarmed damage of a 5th-level Monk.
- Healing (3 Charges/Day): 1 Charge (Heal 2d8 points of damage), 2 Charges (Heal 3d8 points of damage), or 3 Charges(Heal 4d8 points of damage)
Ring of Tongues: Speak and understand any language at will as per Tongues.
Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1): Immune to all death spells, magical death effects, and energy drain, and any negative energy effects
Equipped Magic Items: Amulet of Protection from Evil (+5 Natural Armor), Anklets of Rapid Translocation, Beads of Newt Prevention (x3), Crown of Wisdom (+4 WIS, +10 Sense Motive), Monk's Belt of Healing Vigor (+5 CON, +5 DEX), Ring of Resistance +5 (+5 CHA, +5 INT, +10 Diplomacy), Ring of Sustenance (Slotless), Ring of Tongues, Ring of Mighty Fists (+5 Enhancement bonus to Unarmed & Natural Attacks), Soulfire Mithral Bracers (+1)
Even if he's already earned his next levelup barring us needing to vote on it, it's probably a good idea to wait a few more levels for that fight.
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I mean...if its really a problem we could kill the old Dragon. Or capture it. It's dex is super fucking low. We could stop the Teleport and hit it with all manner of dex damage.
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He does.
Relath is a Young Adult Brine Dragon going against an Old Brine Dragon. Even with two levels of Sorcerer (soon to be one level of Sorcerer and two levels of Dragon Mystic once voted in) and all his gear that's still cutting it uncomfortably close since this is going to be a solo duel.
Remember when we dueled Relath for dominion over Tolos? Both sides had to dispel all buffs. So no persistomancy, no Pact of Renewal, no Nine Lives, etc.
Problem is this is the one Relath has a serious grudge with and wants to kill on his own. Bigger problem is he's not strong enough yet. Fortunately or unfortunately our world is dangerous enough and Relath is motivated enough that he won't stop leveling.
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Or help him.
Not like he has to do this by himself.
Good companions cover a lot of power-difference.
It might not have to be a formal duel either.
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I mean he just want the dragon dead. Are we sure it's on his own? Because if it is a matter of "On his own" then we can certainly send him on a training mission. If it isn't...well a health amount of Dragon Diplomacy would be nice.
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I misread that part. My bad. I thought he'd want to personally kill the dragon. If he just wants it dead then we can provide firepower and make the challenge trivial.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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On the other hand, Relath might not give a damn about a proper Draconic challenge if he has a murderboner for the Old Brine Dragon.
If so, and if it's politically and ethically feasible, we could just deal with it like adventurers have been handling Dragons for uncounted millennia.
Before we go dragon slaying what does he want the dragon dead for? Remember Relath is kinda a asshole. For all we know the Old Brine is a decent guy who didnt like Relaths shit.
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All Dragons are, as you put it, kinda a assholes. Even Viserys is somewhat assholish. Let's just assume he did something to piss Relath off and ice this fool.
Edit: No I am not just doing this for Dragon Loot. How dare you.
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So inverse to Red Dragons?
Sorta more Parallel. Though probably to a far less degree. Reds man, eesh!
But seriously is pissing Amrelath off a Capital Crime now or something? We need specifics before we take a detour to do some Murderhoboing.
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Well we need an excuse for dragon killing and this is that excuse...so murder hobo ahoy.
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Relath, not Amrelath.
And it's less killing anyone who pisses him off and more supporting our vassals against their enemies. A grudge doesn't form out of thin air.
Also, if what we know about Brine Dragon is true, we won't need much before we're attacked and then can use overwhelming force in self defense.
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No, Dragons grow somewhat less problematic to deal with, on the average, by aging.
Young Reds are murderhobos with extremly loose trigger-fingers, Old Reds will propably only kill you if they profit from it or you insulted them.
Stealing some of Relath's treasure after a raid on the Deep Ones. he said something about it being 'too dangerous for the likes of him'
How about we just go hunt a Kraken or something? At this point Brone Dragons seem to be the only stable population of dragons left in the Planes. Leave em alone or recruit em. Or get a better reason.
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Oh, no wonder Relath wants him dead.
No, I want to kill this one.