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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Crake
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[X] "There are dozens of second and third sons by now who dabble in matters the commons would mutter over, and more for fear of the unknown than fear of what they've gotten into."
-[X] "Noble scions of Great Houses who's sons and daughters practice sorcery. We live in the South, aye, but what mutters of the South could effect Denys if he was sent, say, North, where they care little for baseless superstition, only what's practical and real? Wyman Manderly is a man of the Seven, a Lord from an honorable lineage, and he shelters mages in good standing himself."
-[X] "The Lannisters don't offer us anything, just a threat we must grin and bear with, only must we? The Targaryen grows stronger in the east and he doesn't particularly fear the slander Tywin Lannister has been slinging far and wide as could be heard, and even if we did not raise the Dragon Banner when the time comes, if they have Denys in their hands by then they'll force us to raise ours for Lions."
-[X] "Don't make us spill blood for the unworthy, and keeping Denys in Castamere will have that result one way or another. Call him back, or foster him somewhere that won't kill him for swords and gold and suspicion of what he might do."
It's not what Edric wanted, but the implicit idea is that it would only be as long as Tywin Lannister means to threaten House Mallery and Viserys can't personally defend their reputation and lands from agitators. Meaning that Viserys implicitly would do so even if Edric couldn't convince his father to side with the Dragons. Viserys can of course explain that to him @DragonParadox but I didn't feel it added anything to the vote.
-[X] "Noble scions of Great Houses who's sons and daughters practice sorcery. We live in the South, aye, but what mutters of the South could effect Denys if he was sent, say, North, where they care little for baseless superstition, only what's practical and real? Wyman Manderly is a man of the Seven, a Lord from an honorable lineage, and he shelters mages in good standing himself."
-[X] "The Lannisters don't offer us anything, just a threat we must grin and bear with, only must we? The Targaryen grows stronger in the east and he doesn't particularly fear the slander Tywin Lannister has been slinging far and wide as could be heard, and even if we did not raise the Dragon Banner when the time comes, if they have Denys in their hands by then they'll force us to raise ours for Lions."
-[X] "Don't make us spill blood for the unworthy, and keeping Denys in Castamere will have that result one way or another. Call him back, or foster him somewhere that won't kill him for swords and gold and suspicion of what he might do."
It's not what Edric wanted, but the implicit idea is that it would only be as long as Tywin Lannister means to threaten House Mallery and Viserys can't personally defend their reputation and lands from agitators. Meaning that Viserys implicitly would do so even if Edric couldn't convince his father to side with the Dragons. Viserys can of course explain that to him @DragonParadox but I didn't feel it added anything to the vote.
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@Goldfish, I disagree with changing her Craft Wondrous Item. We have very few Companion-level crafters. Rina is a lot more important to us than you're making her out to be.
[X] Crake
Sure, that's fine. I will include that iof it becomes necesary.
Goldfish
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That's what I'm saying, though. She's too important to just have her sitting around crafting. We have missions to send her on now. She hasn't crafted a single thing in three months, and in the month before that she only did half-time crafting.
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[X] Crake
I think it's the lies about dark magic he's concerned about. If Tywin's feeling petty enough he would claim that after Deny arrived they discovered he was some sort of dark wizard and pass some judgment on him. They're the wizard cops, no one can really call them on it, especially for a lesser lords second son's sake.
What if we spread rumors that the Lannisters fake magical talent to trick nobles into sending them noble sons or something? Or fake a family tragedy that they could call him back for.
What if we set up a fake hunting accident/illness for his older brother? Sure they'll offer to heal him, but his father could play up having found faith after all of this and completely shut it down. Then, once he's back, they fake a slow recovery.
Crake
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I really doubt faking an illness or scheming and getting the Mallerys to lie or trick Golden Shields is a good idea. It won't work, why would it? It involves convincing them of a dozen different things and creates a huge tangle of a mystery that can be trivially solved with a little poking around and magic.
The less moving parts to a plan and points of contact with us, the less coaching required to pull this off, the better.
Remember that our only goal here is to get them out of the war.
The less moving parts to a plan and points of contact with us, the less coaching required to pull this off, the better.
Remember that our only goal here is to get them out of the war.
You're probably right about that. I'm just concerned about the fact that Tywin is notoriously petty, and is under a lot of stress right now. This seems like exactly the kind of thing that'd set him off. If he makes a public point of punishing them it could discourage further defection.
That's admittedly a big stack of what ifs, and I don't have an answer to the over complication issues.
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Crake
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The problem is two-fold. If Tywin starts offing noble scions for backing out of informal contracts, no one is going to cooperate with him.
Also, I believe at least that Tywin will make a threat before actually following through on it. He's not so far gone that he'll reach for the sword at the first twitch of dissent.
Goldfish
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Here's a preliminary level up proposal for Rina.
I've not got my heart set on the feats I included, though I do think we should retrain her Craft Wondrous Item feat to something else. She hasn't done any crafting in three months. Extra Turning allows her to use her Divine Metamagic more often, which is always nice, and Fell Drain is not only thematic to Rina's power but also pairs really well with some of her preferred spells. Imagine Fell Drain Blizzard spells blanketing huge swathes of the City of Brass, or a Fell Drain Frigid Vision, which would allow Rina to inflict two Negative levels per round.
[] Rina Level Up
-[] Class: +1 Rimefire Witch
-[] Feat: Fell Drain
-[] Skills (9 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Spellcraft, +2 Knowledge (Religion), +2 Sense Motive, +3 Knowledge (The Planes)
Level 0 (6/day): Create Water, Detect Poison, Detect Magic, Light, Mending, Message
Level 1 (5+2+D/day): Barbed Chains, Bless, Endure Elements, Ice Slick, Sanctuary, Sign, Snowsight, Detect Undead(D)
Level 2 (5+2+D/day): Aid, Blood Snow, Boneshaker, Ironskin, Obscuring Snow, Resist Energy, Sound Burst, Snow Walk(D)
Level 3 (5+2+D/day): Alter Fortune, Battlemagic Perception, Energy Vortex, Fell Drain Barbed Chains, Mass Aid, Mass Entropic Shield, Mass Resist Energy, Winter's Embrace(D)
Level 4 (4+1+D/day): Assay Spell Resistance, Dimensional Anchor, Dismissal, Hypothermia, Mass Shield of Faith, Death Ward(D)
Level 5 (4+1+D/day): Holy Ice, Life Bubble, Necrotic Skull Bomb, Plane Shift, True Seeing, Blizzard(D)
Level 6 (3+1+D/day): Algid Enhancement, Cold Ice Strike, Energy Immunity, Frigid Vision, Greater Dispel Magic, Death Hail(D)
Level 7 (2+1+D/day): Brain Spider, Destruction, Fell Drain Boreal Wind, Control Weather(D)
Level 8 (1+D/day): Veil of Undeath, Summon Frost Giant(D)
I've not got my heart set on the feats I included, though I do think we should retrain her Craft Wondrous Item feat to something else. She hasn't done any crafting in three months. Extra Turning allows her to use her Divine Metamagic more often, which is always nice, and Fell Drain is not only thematic to Rina's power but also pairs really well with some of her preferred spells. Imagine Fell Drain Blizzard spells blanketing huge swathes of the City of Brass, or a Fell Drain Frigid Vision, which would allow Rina to inflict two Negative levels per round.
[] Rina Level Up
-[] Class: +1 Rimefire Witch
-[] Feat: Fell Drain
-[] Skills (9 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Spellcraft, +2 Knowledge (Religion), +2 Sense Motive, +3 Knowledge (The Planes)
Level 0 (6/day): Create Water, Detect Poison, Detect Magic, Light, Mending, Message
Level 1 (5+2+D/day): Barbed Chains, Bless, Endure Elements, Ice Slick, Sanctuary, Sign, Snowsight, Detect Undead(D)
Level 2 (5+2+D/day): Aid, Blood Snow, Boneshaker, Ironskin, Obscuring Snow, Resist Energy, Sound Burst, Snow Walk(D)
Level 3 (5+2+D/day): Alter Fortune, Battlemagic Perception, Energy Vortex, Fell Drain Barbed Chains, Mass Aid, Mass Entropic Shield, Mass Resist Energy, Winter's Embrace(D)
Level 4 (4+1+D/day): Assay Spell Resistance, Dimensional Anchor, Dismissal, Hypothermia, Mass Shield of Faith, Death Ward(D)
Level 5 (4+1+D/day): Holy Ice, Life Bubble, Necrotic Skull Bomb, Plane Shift, True Seeing, Blizzard(D)
Level 6 (3+1+D/day): Algid Enhancement, Cold Ice Strike, Energy Immunity, Frigid Vision, Greater Dispel Magic, Death Hail(D)
Level 7 (2+1+D/day): Brain Spider, Destruction, Fell Drain Boreal Wind, Control Weather(D)
Level 8 (1+D/day): Veil of Undeath, Summon Frost Giant(D)
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I do.
I also want to remind you that everyone who dies by Level-Drain comes back as a Wight.
I have already considered this combination (or with Cold Snap for an even larger area), but in the end I think she doesn't want to cause a Wightpocalypse, so she would propably keep that Metamagic to small area or single-target spells.
Crake
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Goddamn, Rina's an 8th Circle caster? She's so strong!!
That must be crazy for her. She started out strong, but she came out bonkers.
egoo
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Wasn't there a wog from DP that Wightpocalypse can't really happen in this particular setting, due to wights not turning people they kill all that easily?
(Might be misremembering)
And again, killing stuff with Negative Levels is kinda hard in place as high-cr at CoB.
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True in both cases, but a bunch of beggers/slaves/other being turned into a few dozen or so Wights would still be heavy on her conscience.
Not as bad as doing it in KL or so, where it's likely a city-wipe even if they can't propagate, but still bad.
Mors Umber's sheet has been added to the other adventurer courtesy of @Artemis1992 Posting here as well for conveniance if you guys want to discuss re-training
Name: Mors Umber
Alias: Crowfood
Age: 58
Alignment:
Race: Human (Medium Humanoid)
Level: 8
Class: Fighter 2/ Barbarian 6
Feats: Intimidating Prowess, Power Attack, Cornugon Smash, Imperious Command, Intimidating Rage, Instantaneous Rage, Improved Bullrush
Flaw: Grudge Keeper
Class Features: Bonus Feats, Fast Movement, Rage (2/day), Uncanny Dodge, Improved Uncanny Dodge, Dashing Step
Skill Tricks: Never Outnumbered
HP: 66
AC: 10
Initiative: -1
Attack: +8 (BAB) +3(STR) +2(ENH) = +14/9 (1d12 +6)
Weapon Proficiency: All Simple and Martial
Immunities: Possession/Mental Control,
STATS:
16 (+3) Strength
8 (-1) Dexterity
14 (+2) Constitution
8 (-1) Intelligence
8 (-1 ) Wisdom
15 (+2) Charisma
SAVES
FORTITUDE: 8 + 2 + 2 = 10/12
REFLEX: 2 - 1 + 2 = 1/3
WILL: 2 - 1 + 2 = 1/3
SKILLS:
Diplomacy: 2 +2(CHA) = 4
Knowledge (History): 5 -1(INT) = 4
Intimidate: 11 + 2 (CHA) +3(STR) = 16
Spot: 6 - 1 (WIS) = 5
Survival: 5 -1(WIS) = 4
Dashing Step (Ex): You do not take a -2 penalty to Armor Class when charging. Furthermore, you add one-third of your barbarian level to your AC against attacks of opportunity when charging.
Alias: Crowfood
Age: 58
Alignment:
Race: Human (Medium Humanoid)
Level: 8
Class: Fighter 2/ Barbarian 6
Feats: Intimidating Prowess, Power Attack, Cornugon Smash, Imperious Command, Intimidating Rage, Instantaneous Rage, Improved Bullrush
Flaw: Grudge Keeper
Class Features: Bonus Feats, Fast Movement, Rage (2/day), Uncanny Dodge, Improved Uncanny Dodge, Dashing Step
Skill Tricks: Never Outnumbered
HP: 66
AC: 10
Initiative: -1
Attack: +8 (BAB) +3(STR) +2(ENH) = +14/9 (1d12 +6)
Weapon Proficiency: All Simple and Martial
Immunities: Possession/Mental Control,
STATS:
16 (+3) Strength
8 (-1) Dexterity
14 (+2) Constitution
8 (-1) Intelligence
8 (-1 ) Wisdom
15 (+2) Charisma
SAVES
FORTITUDE: 8 + 2 + 2 = 10/12
REFLEX: 2 - 1 + 2 = 1/3
WILL: 2 - 1 + 2 = 1/3
SKILLS:
Diplomacy: 2 +2(CHA) = 4
Knowledge (History): 5 -1(INT) = 4
Intimidate: 11 + 2 (CHA) +3(STR) = 16
Spot: 6 - 1 (WIS) = 5
Survival: 5 -1(WIS) = 4
Dashing Step (Ex): You do not take a -2 penalty to Armor Class when charging. Furthermore, you add one-third of your barbarian level to your AC against attacks of opportunity when charging.
Goldfish
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I don't think Efreeti come back as Wights. I don't really foresee us ever having any reason to use a Fell Drain Blizzard on the Material Plane.
Actually, though, an outbreak of Undead plaguing the City of Brass after our attack might not be a bad thing.
Goldfish
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Yep. This level up moves her to 15th level and 8th level spells. She's come a long way.
That's convenient, because we've crafted a bunch of gear for Mors so now I have a sheet to put it all on soon.
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Efreeti have too many HD to matter for this, but if it hits a large area she'd kill and turn every second beggar, slave and animal in the area.
That's propably not something she'd ever want to do, even if it inconveniences the Efreeti to have murderous, life-draining, undead housecats around the whole city.
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