@DragonParadox I just had a thought what is Danelle's opinion about the many massacre's that the faithful of the Seven have performed against the followers of the Old Gods? Does she think it as the culling of heretics, or does she see it as something that she doesn't want to talk about? This war between the Old and New Gods of Westeros is about past wrongs so what is her opinion on this. Also what would her opinion be about the fact that we are planting Wierwood trees in Andalos? I am only asking because what we are doing can be seen as an even bigger insult than what Cregan Stark did when he decided to decimate the population of Andalos.
 
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@DragonParadox I just had a thought what is Danelle's opinion about the many massacre's that the faithful of the Seven have performed against the followers of the Old Gods? Does she think it as the culling of heretics, or does she see it as something that she doesn't want to talk about? This war between the Old and New Gods of Westeros is about past wrongs so what is her opinion on this. Also what would her opinion be about the fact that we are planting Wierwood trees in Andalos? I am only asking because what we are doing can be seen as an even bigger insult than what Cregan Stark did when he decided to decimate the population of Andalos.

While this is an amazing question, it wasn't Cregan Stark who decimated the population of Andalos. That honour belongs to Lord Theon Stark who messed up Andalos so hard that now days we have a general idea of where their civilization was. Cregan was Mr. Hour Of the Wolf.
 
@DragonParadox I just had a thought what is Danelle's opinion about the many massacre's that the faithful of the Seven have performed against the followers of the Old Gods? Does she think it as the culling of heretics, or does she see it as something that she doesn't want to talk about? This war between the Old and New Gods of Westeros is about past wrongs so what is her opinion on this. Also what would her opinion be about the fact that we are planting Wierwood trees in Andalos? I am only asking because what we are doing can be seen as an even bigger insult than what Cregan Stark did when he decided to decimate the population of Andalos.
  1. Her opinion of the first is that it was a horrific moment in history fueled as much by greed as zeal, but that it does not deserve more bloodshed (she said so during the conclave)
  2. For the second you would have to ask her
 
While this is an amazing question, it wasn't Cregan Stark who decimated the population of Andalos. That honour belongs to Lord Theon Stark who messed up Andalos so hard that now days we have a general idea of where their civilization was. Cregan was Mr. Hour Of the Wolf.
Poor Theon, he got the wording of his divine curse wrong and only killed off the Andals in Andalos while accidentally sparing the ones who had already invaded Westeros.
 
Poor Theon, he got the wording of his divine curse wrong and only killed off the Andals in Andalos while accidentally sparing the ones who had already invaded Westeros.

That's a mixed blessing, the genocide of all those people in Westeros probably would have despoiled the land moreso than one backwater that culturally and spiritually lived on and thus didn't infest it with vengeful undead.
 
That's a mixed blessing, the genocide of all those people in Westeros probably would have despoiled the land moreso than one backwater that culturally and spiritually lived on and thus didn't infest it with vengeful undead.
True, but from the perspective of a First Man at the time he probably would have taken that over the decimation and cultural assimilation of his people south of the Neck. He had once chance and he missed, and then everything south of the Neck started worshipping the gods of the invaders.

Vengeful undead would have been a problem, but they still could have been dealt with far easier than intact kingdoms.

EDIT: I wonder how powerful the paladins and clerics of the Faith Militant were back then. They didn't have heroes remembered for millennia beyond Hugor of the Hill, but they had to have had powerful warriors to have challenged the Old Gods back when magic still worked.
 
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I find it funny how Lya plans to spice up bedroom with what is a basically another body she controls.

She can get really kinky with it and make other "models" with different appearances and such.:ogles:

Oberyn must never know!
 
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While this is an amazing question, it wasn't Cregan Stark who decimated the population of Andalos. That honour belongs to Lord Theon Stark who messed up Andalos so hard that now days we have a general idea of where their civilization was. Cregan was Mr. Hour Of the Wolf.
Thank you for the information though it would be an interesting interlude if we could see the reaction from the Gods themselves. Specifically either from the Mother, who as stated above got the mother of all curses thrown at her. Or the Maiden who seems to be one of the few of the Seven who regrets the massacres. Though I am only basing this observation off of Danelle's interaction. For all I know she could have been all for the murder of the First Men.
 
Thank you for the information though it would be an interesting interlude if we could see the reaction from the Gods themselves. Specifically either from the Mother, who as stated above got the mother of all curses thrown at her. Or the Maiden who seems to be one of the few of the Seven who regrets the massacres. Though I am only basing this observation off of Danelle's interaction. For all I know she could have been all for the murder of the First Men.

In all frankness they might have all been for the murder. The Andal Invasions were, by and large, an act of desperation to flee from the threat that was nipping at their heels in the east. Time of desperation tend to make for measures of desperation. Now of course they made it sound like an act of conquest across the sea but really it was Hail Mary that worked.
 
In all frankness they might have all been for the murder. The Andal Invasions were, by and large, an act of desperation to flee from the threat that was nipping at their heels in the east. Time of desperation tend to make for measures of desperation. Now of course they made it sound like an act of conquest across the sea but really it was Hail Mary that worked.
Partially. They had to turn themselves into anti-magic gods to do it, to hide the fact that their people were glorified refugees instead of steadfast conquerers, and that warped them over time until we see the Father today with his wonderful agenda against all mages in Westeros.
 
Partially. They had to turn themselves into anti-magic gods to do it, to hide the fact that their people were glorified refugees instead of steadfast conquerers, and that warped them over time until we see the Father today with his wonderful agenda against all mages in Westeros.

The Blood magic probably didn't help. Especially considering the Valyrian trauma they had. Also I think I figured out how they beat the Old Gods.
 
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