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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Deliste said:
The Seeker is neither mindless nor something to feel sorry for, it's origins may be heinous but not it's existence.

I think it should be given the opportunity to be useful but even that is mostly projection on my part because it's quite happy standing still in a closet for the next 2000 years.
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And the next day...
Crake said:
Westeros Loyalty Chart
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The North

House Stark: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Wull: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Burley: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Harclay: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Liddle: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Norrey: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Flint of Breakstone Hill: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Cassel: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Forrester: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Flint of Widow's Watch: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Flint of Flint's Finger: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Glover: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Reed: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Tallhart: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Ally (Lord Eddard)

House Manderly: Aligned (House Stark)

House Woolfield: Aligned (House Stark) - Ally (Lord Wyman)

House Hornwood: Neutral

House Umber: Neutral - Steady (House Targaryen)

House Lake: Neutral - Ally (Lord Greatjon)

House Mormont: Neutral - Steady (House Targaryen)

House Overton: Neutral

House Marsh: Neutral

House Slate: Neutral

House Bolton: Loyalist - Mercenary (Highest Bidder)

House Dustin: Belligerent

House Karstark: Belligerent

House Crowl: Loyalist - Rebellious

House Magnar: Belligerent

House Stane: Belligerent

House Ryswell: Loyalist - Ally (Lord Roose)

House Whitehill: Loyalist - Ally (Lord Roose)

Stormlands

House Baratheon of Storm's End: Loyalist

House Caron: Neutral - Hostile (Lord Stannis)

House Morrigen: Neutral - Hostile (Lord Stannis)

House Wylde: Loyalist

House Swann: Loyalist - Ally (Lord Stannis)

House Grandison: Loyalist - Ally (Lord Stannis)

House Staedmon: Loyalist - Ally (Lord Stannis)

House Buckler: Loyalist - Steady (Overwhelming Force)

House Cafferen: Neutral - Hostile (House Targaryen)

House Fell: Loyalist

House Connington: Loyalist

House Trant: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Dondarrion: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Peasebury: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Penrose: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Whitehead: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Estermont: Neutral - Unsteady (Conflict of Interest)

House Errol: Loyalist

House Tarth: Loyalist

Riverlands

House Darry: Loyalist

House Mooton: Loyalist - Steady (Strong Heir)

House Blanetree: Loyalist - Ally (House Cox)

House Cox: Loyalist

House Terrick: Loyalist - Rebellious (Ser Karl Terrick) - Ally (House Cox)

House Goodbrook: Loyalist - Rebellious (Ser Garse Goodbrook)

House Frey: Loyalist - Mercenary (Highest Bidder)

House Hawick: Loyalist - Rebellious (Ser Harold Hawick)

House Rygar: Loyalist - Unsteady (Conflict of Interest)

House Blackwood: Neutral - Steady (House Targaryen)

House Bracken: Neutral - Unsteady (Rivalry)

House Keath: Neutral - Hostile (House Targaryen)

House Lolliston: Neutral - Mercenary

House Lychester: Neutral - Mercenary (Impoverished)

House Roote: Neutral - Belligerent

House Shawney: Neutral - Unknown

House Smallwood: Neutral - Sympathetic (House Targaryen)

House Vypren: Neutral - Unsteady (Pious)

House Whent: Loyalist

House Tully: Aligned (House Baratheon of King's Landing) - Unsteady (Cornered)

House Deddings: Aligned - Unknown

House Grell: Aligned - Unknown

House Mallister: Aligned (House Tully)

House Paege: Aligned - Unknown

House Piper: Aligned (House Tully)

House Vance of Atranta: Aligned (House Tully)

House Vance of Wayfarer's Rest: Aligned (House Tully)

House Wayn: Aligned - Unknown

Crownlands

House Velaryon: Loyalist

House Celtigar: Loyalist

House Brune of Dyre Den: Loyalist (Ballsy)

House Brune of Brown Hollow: Loyalist

House Boggs: Loyalist

House Cave: Loyalist

House Pyne: Loyalist

House Crabb: Loyalist (Impoverished)

House Hardy: Loyalist

House Bar Emmon: Loyalist

House Massey: Loyalist

House Rykker Loyalist

House Buckwell: Loyalist

House Langwald: Loyalist

House Staunton: Loyalist

House Wendwater: Loyalist

House Longwaters: Loyalist

House Byrch: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Bywater: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Cressey: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Edgerton: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Follard: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Harte: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Hayford: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Manning: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Pyne: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Rollingford: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Rosby: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Stokeworth: Aligned - (House Lannister)

House Lannister of Dragonstone - Belligerent

House Blount: Neutral

House Chelsted: Aligned - (House Baratheon of King's Landing)

House Chyttering: Neutral

House Farring: Neutral - Unknown (Paranoid)

House Mallery: Aligned - Unknown

House Rambton: Aligned - (High Septon)

House Sunglass: Aligned - (High Septon)

Note: I will be adding blurbs to most of these to summarize basic information as to their relationship with us or our enemies as appropriate and over time. @Duesal offered to help me track down some of this stuff, but as a note I'm just starting with the Stormlands because it was relevant. Any alterations to these statuses will be updated as the situation changes.
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See latest changes at the bottom.

Blount appears to have been isolated by their own shame and lack of a reasonable third party to ally with.

Chelsted at least outwardly seems to have chosen to directly align with House Baratheon, or rather whoever sits on the Iron Throne, since whoever sits there has direct leverage on their heir.

Chyttering seems to be trying to go about finding contacts to the east for some reason.

Farring is either paranoid, or the Maester Conspiracy tried to pull something at an inopportune time for them, and he decided (quite reasonably) someone was out to get him.

Mallery wasn't covered in the latest Bloodraven update.

Rambton and Sunglass are sticking up for the High Septon.

Tygett continues to be murderously rustled.

I think we should meet with the current lords of Blount, Chyttering, Mallery first, then investigate Farring and see if we can pull him loose, we have reasons to be paranoid about Maesters as well and maybe we can pin something on them. Another subtle supporter for tearing down that institution wouldn't be bad.

Chelsted unfortunately even if they weren't at all loyal to the Crown has done the stupid and made sure their heir was readily available for a shanking, so they're a bit more trouble than they're worth without some extensive planning.

Assassinate Guncer Sunglass and use one of our connections to get the heir on our side.

Need to know more about Lord Rambton to have an idea of what to do with him. I wouldn't do the above assassination without some semblance of what the High Septon's political strategy is, anyway.
 
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Hmm I have a thought. So I am looking at the gathering of mages from the North and am wondering if we should send one of our more advanced students to, shall we say, help out and spy on Winterfell. Would this be a good idea/thing to do?

Edit: Also keep more eyes on Jon and Arya.
 
DragonParadox said:
A Gathering of Mages ​

Eighteenth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Before departing the cave under the hill, you raise one final matter; how ready the North is to face otherworldly foes, how many mages had Eddard Stark and others like him managed to find and gather to their banners? Alas, in this Bloodraven cannot give you as precise an answer as an Inquisition report might. Not because he could not find the answer if he sought it, but simply because he does not have the time to peer through every mage's window and guess at the nature of their power. Still, he knows enough to give you a rough approximation of the budding arcane strength of the North. There are dozens of wargs employed with hundreds more refusing to reveal themselves for fear of their neighbors or else having already fled into the woods to live alongside the beasts with whom they were bonded.

Of true mages, Wyman Manderly can boast the most; five and forty not including the sealfolk who had decided to settle in the waters around White Harbor. Little wonder he had been willing to lend one of his best and brightest to House Stark, and well that he had done so. The Lord of the North seems to be attempting to compensate with frantic diligence for all the months of which he had paid little heed to the rising tides of magic. More than two dozen mages had gathered in Winterfell, some of them not even from the North but arriving by ship and by boat, following the promise of not just gold but protection. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the knowledge of Jon's magic and young Arya's blessing by the Old Gods goes farther than words ever could to assure sorcerers of all stripes that they will be treated fairly.

The realization is not entirely a happy one, for you know well the darker sort of mage that could be drawn to those offers. "One more reason to be glad you are keeping an eye on Jon, my lord," you say, confessing your worry to the seer upon his pale throne.

"I am glad to set your mind at ease, Your Grace... and to keep the boy safe," the last is barely more than a sigh even to your ears, but no less sincere for it.

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Nineteenth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

The next day dawns through a shroud of morning fog, not unheard of in Sorcerer's Deep but certainly uncommon. You decide to take the morning for audiences, thankfully finding nothing of any great urgency or complexity before your planned excursion to Armun Kelisk and beyond. Letters can only go so far in forging an alliance against the Deep Ones with their erstwhile slaves, the time has come to visit the fortress monasteries. The question now presents itself, how you wish to do so, how to show strength without arrogance?

Although the githzerai have little use for mundane goods, the eddies of Limbo being ever ready to be shaped by a mind strong enough to do so, you know they do trade, for magic and for lore.

How do you travel to Limbo?

[] As a passenger aboard a Djinn skyship
-[] Write in what you want to bring

[] Plane-shift and fly
-[] Write in what you want to bring

[] Write in

OOC: You are about to meet an entirely new faction so I figured a preparation vote would not go amiss. By default you are traveling with Dany since she has nothing else to do this month, but if you ant to add other companions this is the vote for that too.
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Made some edits to the chapter, DP.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Hmm I have a thought. So I am looking at the gathering of mages from the North and am wondering if we should send one of our more advanced students to, shall we say, help out and spy on Winterfell. Would this be a good idea/thing to do?

Edit: Also keep more eyes on Jon and Arya.
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No, because one of the neat tricks we are playing with Ned Stark is that he has no idea how we're so well informed, other than putting it on the Gods themselves being on our side. Which isn't technically wrong.

If we make it obvious we're spying on him, we lose a point of leverage during inevitable negotiations. We were honorable and fair to him and his.
 
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Who all do we have available to take with us to Limbo?

And what should we bring with us?
 
Tomcost said:
Lya would love to visit the Limbo. Lots of soul theory to be learned from the realm of chaos itself
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While it'd be nice to have her, she's set on an important Research Action (Fey lore, needed to deal with Tiamat and in general), and a Minor Action (reading through the R'hlor's holy book and getting us that ??? from 3rd tier of it).
I'm not actually sure whom we can spare from all actions at the moment.

@Goldfish?

At the very least, we can take Seeker with us, he'll do a fine substitute for Richard.

Edit: Goldfished, Goldfish doesn't know who's free either. Damn.
 
Goldfish said:
Who all do we have available to take with us to Limbo?

And what should we bring with us?
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Seeker is the only thing that sticks out from PCs to me :/

As for what we'd trade with...
Honestly, so far trading with lore worked out well for us.
If they are there in anywhat an amassed quantity (not a given, with how many Illithids are out and about on the Planes), we'll trade for their works with lore/rituals.
If not, at least we'll get advice on how to deal with Illithids. God knows we need some.
 
egoo said:
While it'd be nice to have her, she's set on an important Research Action (Fey lore, needed to deal with Tiamat and in general), and a Minor Action (reading through the R'hlor's holy book and getting us that ??? from 3rd tier of it).
I'm not actually sure whom we can spare from all actions at the moment.

@Goldfish?

At the very least, we can take Seeker with us, he'll do a fine substitute for Richard.

Edit: Goldfished, Goldfish doesn't know who's free either. Damn.
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Some are available, like Xor, but really shouldn't be spending much time around the Gith, and others might just be a bit far out of their depth, like Sandor. He could use the XP, though.

I'm not sure if the Seeker should be making the trip, either.

Teana should be available to tag along, too.
 
[X] Plane Shift and fly
-[X] Sandor and Teana will accompany Viserys and Dany.
-[X] We'll bring a variety of Planetosi foodstuffs, copies of rare and valuable lore we have gathered and would be willing to share, and one of our Interplanar Whispering Braziers to leave with the Githzerai should we establish friendly relations.

[X] Malarys Level Up
-[X] Attribute: +1 Wisdom
-[X] Class: +1 Seeker of Law
-[X] Feat:
--[X] Retrain: Spell Perfection(Boneshatter) >>> Extra Turning
-[X] Skills (8 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge(Law), +1 Sense Motive, +1 Spellcraft, +2 Bluff, +2 Diplomacy

[X] Sandor Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Fighter
-[X] Feat:
--[X] Retrained: Desperate Battler >>> Mage Slayer
-[X] Skills (5 points): +1 Intimidate, +3 Spellcraft [using 6 points], +4 Knowledge (Arcana) [using 8 points]
--[X] Retrained Skills (+10 points): -5 Climb, -5 Ride
 
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What about Warblade for Sandor's level up?

We should see if DP would let Sandor retrain some levels from Fighter into Warblade, IMO, though those of you with more experience with Martial characters are gonna need to build him.
 
Goldfish said:
What about Warblade for Sandor's level up?

We should see if DP would let Sandor retrain some levels from Fighter into Warblade, IMO, though those of you with more experience with Martial characters are gonna need to build him.
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Only if Ser Richard can trade some of his fighter class for warblade. Part of the reason why he didn't go full martial class early was due to it not being available. I'm not comfortable with him not having full IL himself and teaching him someone how to be a warblade of all things.
 
ryuan said:
Only if Ser Richard can trade some of his fighter class for warblade. Part of the reason why he didn't go full martial class early was due to it not being available. I'm not comfortable with him not having full IL himself and teaching him someone how to be a warblade of all things.
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Good point. I had forgotten about that.

Maybe just keep him as straight Fighter? Or retrain him enough that next level he can go Occult Slayer?
 
Goldfish said:
Good point. I had forgotten about that.

Maybe just keep him as straight Fighter? Or retrain him enough that next level he can go Occult Slayer?
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Occult Slayer seems fine. Unfortunately until we get more Initiators I don't think we can justify having many Martial Adepts TBH, and Richard's are justified by fighting giant/lethal monsters on a regular basis and learning how to move like they do.

Eventually though once we get a School's worth of them with access to a variety of disciplines, I would like to start retraining pretty much all our fighter PCs. They can retrain all but their first level with ease, and a single dip into Fighter isn't actually even a bad thing 'cause BAB and HD are the same.
 
Crake said:
And the next day..
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Fingers crossed for the Gith being helpful and reasonable, unfortunately I am less optimistic than before given we have learnt of the Deep Ones in Sundered Heaven etc and haven't heard of any large scale action on the part of the Gith.

At the very least we get an answer for why they aren't cleaning up that mess.
 
How's this as preparation to get him ready for Occult Slayer on his next level up? Desperate Battler is a nice enough feat, but Sandor no longer has to worry about fighting alone and since he is now included in Dany's Persistomancy, the bonuses from the feat are completely superfluous.

Adding it to my plan.

[] Sandor Level Up
-[] Class: +1 Fighter
-[] Feat:
--[] Retrained: Desperate Battler >>> Mage Slayer
-[] Skills (5 points): +1 Intimidate, +3 Spellcraft [using 6 points], +4 Knowledge (Arcana) [using 8 points]
--[] Retrained Skills (+10 points): -5 Climb, -5 Ride
 
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Deliste said:
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Fingers crossed for the Gith being helpful and reasonable, unfortunately I am less optimistic than before given we have learnt of the Deep Ones in Sundered Heaven etc and haven't heard of any large scale action on the part of the Gith.

At the very least we get an answer for why they aren't cleaning up that mess.
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I'm hoping they've simply been prioritizing their targets, choosing those in less hostile environments or where mortals are more likely to live and be preyed upon by Illithids.
 
Deliste said:
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Fingers crossed for the Gith being helpful and reasonable, unfortunately I am less optimistic than before given we have learnt of the Deep Ones in Sundered Heaven etc and haven't heard of any large scale action on the part of the Gith.

At the very least we get an answer for why they aren't cleaning up that mess.
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That was an aborted meme on my part. The forum likes to retain whatever you were last typing even if you're double and triple sure you erased it and started writing something else, esp. easy to miss if you're already quoting someone else's post (or your own).
 
Crake said:
That was an aborted meme on my part. The forum likes to retain whatever you were last typing even if you're double and triple sure you erased it and started writing something else, esp. easy to miss if you're already quoting someone else's post (or your own).
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That happens to me so often. :mad:
 
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