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- United States
That's what I'm worried about.
I'm guessing saying we figured it out via divinations wouldn't be any better?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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I'm guessing saying we figured it out via divinations wouldn't be any better?
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- Australia
There's a half dozen scheduled already and we're keeping the reserve resources to make modified versions of them in the future.
It's worth it for people to know what they are though
Umbral Spy
They are incorporeal constructs, they're pretty damn good at hiding but when they bond to a shadow they're basically impossible to find even then requiring an invasive, and I mean literally invasive like a rubber glove in an airport, Truesight search because they will hide in the shadows beneath your clothing etc.
It is no longer considered a separate creature. It follows the target creature wherever it goes, senses anything target creature senses, and understands anything said within earshot, provided that the umbral spy, not the targeted creature, knows the language.
No longer being considered a separate creature is next level, it will tag along on Teleports and Plane Shifts not even giving itself in the roundabout way of overstacking the passenger limit, upon the destination it will also pass beneath keyed symbols etc.
Once it has done with a particular piece of spying it hands all that information over perfectly.
Thought Link (Su): An umbral spy can trasmit any of its memories telepathically to any creature that has an Intelligence of 3 or more within 10 feet that has the bone left over from its creation. It cannot use this ability while bonded with its Shadow Bond ability.
If we put one of these on someone we know everything except what they personally thought, I am somewhat ambiguous on if Telepathic communication falls under "senses".
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- florida
All the subtlety of a brick to the face these people.
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- Philippines
At best it would make her panic about other people doing the same.
Looks great, canon tag added again.
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- florida
It's not like that isn't an issue.
It is though one would have to ask the right question.
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- United States
... @Goldfish, it's probably better to not bring this up at all, then. There's no real way for us to look good here if we casually reveal her biggest secret. How about instead we approach her and ask her how she would like us to help her. We can work off of whatever she chooses to reveal.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
They're being crafted like anything else. I don't really think they need even a minor action, at least, unless we want to have one where we vote on how to assign them next month.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Getting swamped at work. Can you take over the vote, please?
[X] Duesal
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
That, please.
It is something that needs no less tracking than "whom we have covered with Erynies", but I actually have no idea for targets.
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- United States
Sure.
[X] Approach Lady Errol discreetly, and once alone with going over the political landscape of Westeros (though not speaking of Stannis bending the knee) and the various supernatural threats alongside the failings of the Lannisters.
-[X] See if we can glean any insights into her personal problems from the conversation that we could then reasonably "deduce" and potentially bring to light.
--[X] If there is a way to do it without bringing her into a panic and reflexively hardening her heart against the loyalist cause, see if we can talk about her marriage arrangements and any aid we could potentially give. Do not attempt this if it would make the conversation unsalvageable.
-[X] We can offer her a number of things, from a mage or two assigned to her, to magic items to safeguard her and her lands, to even stronger magics should she require it. If she tells us what she needs we can do our best to see it taken care of.
This way she only shares what she's comfortable with, and we achieve our goal of securing her loyalty.
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Fleet Interlude next.
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- United States
I eagerly look forward to that battle. Fingers crossed for a few levelups!
MasterDrakus
DEUS SOL
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- Minas Gerais, Brazil
[X] Duesal
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- Germany
Major issue.
Her lover is also a noble, a daughter and a sister and so on.
Would you ask her to give up her family and identity and be a random stranger only to be with Shyra?
I certainly wouldn't.
The Lady Shyra Errol I assume, not the mother?
I don't quite like this blantant attempt to buy her.
I think we should start on political matters, as usually, and switch to her personal problems if she gives any opening for us to "guess" them. Not like we aren't already known as a Diplomancer par excellence, guessing the relationship from any look or careless word should be believable.
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- florida
I agree that would take a bit more finesse than we have available at the moment.
What actual political leverage do we have over her?
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- Germany
Her liege has sworn to us.
Our victory in the reconquest is inevitable.
It's either join now and profit, join later and maybe be forgiven, or don't join and die, in the greater picture.
Edit: That's not what I want to say, obviously, just the situation.
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- florida
Threats have a way of breeding resentment in the long term.
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- Germany
See the edit.
I don't want to say that, it's merely the situation.
Unfortunatly we have nothing on this house specifically.
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- Germany
[X] Start on the usual tune, the Usurpers failings, the Lannisters various missdeeds, like mindcontrol and inefficiency against the Deep Ones
-[X] If you see any way to get to that point without revealing that you can read minds/dreams/other, for example if she makes a comment we could somehow deduce it from, offer her official marriage with her lover, including the option to adopt or make legal heirs under your reign
-[X] If no such chance offers itself, get to the point anyway, admit that divinations can find many things, including this if the right questions are asked or you stumble over it by asking for something that includes her wishes in a broader way.
-[X] As for Shyra's mother, it might simply be best if she remains ignorant of our association for now.
-[X] If you see any way to get to that point without revealing that you can read minds/dreams/other, for example if she makes a comment we could somehow deduce it from, offer her official marriage with her lover, including the option to adopt or make legal heirs under your reign
-[X] If no such chance offers itself, get to the point anyway, admit that divinations can find many things, including this if the right questions are asked or you stumble over it by asking for something that includes her wishes in a broader way.
-[X] As for Shyra's mother, it might simply be best if she remains ignorant of our association for now.
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- United States
What's your plan for calming her down after dropping this bomb?
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- Germany
It's unfortunate, but true.
Ultimatly I do hope that divination seems less viscerally scary and intrusive than mindreading or dreamvisits and we can just relativly calmly explain the facts of the new world, inculding the limits and options of divination, but I see no real way around it exept hoping she gives us any hint we can work from without revealing that.