I keep waiting for someone to be dumb enough to try to go around or over Alinor's head only to come back a while later with their tail between their legs.

One day.
Ship has largely sailed on that, Essosi are fine with women having influence or rather they can place them in an ill-defined power-structure.

Alinor is insulated by layers of functionaries and officials from ever having to deal with a truculant Westerosi lord who can't conceive of a woman having more power than him.
 
An interlude might be appropriate. Maybe Alinor meeting with the Sealord? That would be... interesting and thought provoking. A lot of Alinor's power isn't in the influence she wields which is entirely official, and it is a lot, but the not-inconsiderable unofficial power she wields among all branches of government.

In fact if you wanted to pick out the person who could do more damage to the Imperium single-handedly out of any of them (before things go sorted out, simply because of her connections) it would be Alinor, not say, Dany or Lya. Next would obviously be Viserys, but I didn't bother mentioning it.
I would say differently.

Any damage Alinor does can be fixed.
Lya or Dany have a chance of killing Viserys and making it stick.
And with him dead and the companions broken all we've build up is easy prey to the greater dangers out there.

Edit: and the dangers inside of course. Amrelath would not serve some mortal and neither would many of our more powerful vassals.
 
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I would say differently.

Any damage Alinor does can be fixed.
Lya or Dany have a chance of killing Viserys and making it stick.
And with him dead and the companions broken all we've build up is easy prey to the greater dangers out there.

Edit: and the dangers inside of course. Amrelath would not serve some mortal and neither would many of our more powerful vassals.
Ehh, if the vector is "they kill a bunch of PCs" the thought exercise becomes pointless. Neither Lya nor Dany leverage that influence they hold to move matters of state outside counseling Viserys much, when not adventuring or politicking, activities they often do with him there.

Alinor wields her power almost always out of our attention.
 
Winning vote

[] Duty Weighs Heavier Than A Mountain
-[] Discuss a way to teach Shireen what she needs to know. The best way to do this is to actually explain, in clear and concise terms, what magic using spellcraft is actually capable of, its limitations, and how it could be used in a manner compared to say, alchemy, which is more intellectual than true "will" powered sorcery. Dany has had some inkling of a way to protect her without constant attention, but that takes time and resources not easily spared against other threats. --> Stannis seems to be under some misapprehension that magic is something that must not only be restrained because it is something you can choose not to use, like knowledge of how to brew up a potion or allegedly turn lead into gold, going by some of the more esoteric alchemic reactions we have heard and seen about, but the reality is different, sorcery is a part of who you are at the core and all about willpower, "I am I" and the validation of that belief. If Shireen is a sorcerer, she will believe magic is her right, as she would not have the will to impart that subjective reality upon the world otherwise. If she is anything like her father, she will be too stubborn to convince otherwise before causing some other tangle that simply causes her to hide her explorations from her father rather than share them in fullness and with forewarning of each attempt to grasp the higher threads of sorcery. The best thing we can do for both Stannis and Shireen here is to get him to understand this, and try to support her so that she does not do anything too dangerous.
-[] Depending on how the above gets settled, talk about the various threats and from which vectors they shall approach, such as the inevitably reignited and hotter-than-ever war against the Deep Ones, the threat of She-of-Many-Colors, the march of the Others, in escalating order of priority. Given we have very reliable intel on such matters, also describe how the Lannisters and the Crown has gone about combating this threat without implicating Varys or 'Varys'. Which is to say, nothing whatsoever. --> Here is the rub. We want to talk about Stannis taking up worship of the God of his ancestral lineage, but there is currently too much suspicion and political entanglements getting in the way of trying to counsel him in one direction or another, a gulf stands between Stannis and Viserys that should not exist. We are his rightful liege, but in the end even Stannis chose family before duty when he held Storm's End against the Tyrells' siege, and he has never known anything but pain and torment from it. In contrast, every action taken by Viserys was carefully thought out and deliberate, showing not only respect for the station that he would claim but also for Stannis, despite the fact that he supported an illegitimate claimant to our birthright who has done nothing to fulfill the responsibilities of the Iron Throne, as outlined below.
-[] Oh sure, the Golden Shields have been on the lookout for Devils (which they have categorically failed at even under their own nose) and they have been raising Deep One complicit villages to the ground, and slaughtering peasants. Which does nothing to harm the enemy. -> Robert is ultimately too entangled with the Lannisters to be able to shut them out or cast them aside even with their incompetence. He is a puppet, who's life or death only matters insofar that he keeps war from igniting as the lords chafing under Tywin Lannister and his grasping influence remains at bay.
-[] We now have independent confirmation that Tywin Lannister is magically compelling his mages, regardless of their loyalty, because he doesn't trust them to do their duty. -> Even this is going on under Robert's nose, whereas we have outlined in law just how barbaric and unjust this very action is, and for having done so we hold the loyalty of over a thousand mages, not all equal in power but with the same potential that Tywin so fears, because we trust them to do their duty and because they hold the same vision as Viserys.
-[] Then start going over some of the things we have done in preparation. Hint hint. -> The below gives a list of reasons why we're not only qualified to lead them all, that we're worthy, but that we have always acted as though it was within our remit even when it did not benefit us directly, time and time again.
-[] How we have forged an army that isn't even necessary to conquer Westeros, simply because it's not for conquering Westeros.
-[] The threat of an overwhelming military might secure it with less bloodshed but burning Keeps like a madman is not how you intend to rule, even if you could win by doing it. You don't enslave your mages, you have their loyalty, that of an unbreakable army, and mighty magics, simply to stay above water against the threats we've described.
-[] The mighty defenses against mind control and enchantment which layer over our capital. How our eyes are on the lookout throughout the world and how many times we just barely make it in time to stomp on a threat which would kill tens of thousands, only for two more to pop up elsewhere to fester until they explode.
-[] How for years alone against the world we are still preparing a realm for the ultimate war of survival while others have squabbled. -> Here's where we reach out. We need allies. We have recognized that for all our power and might, it is almost nothing compared to true unity, under one leader, one with the right vision and will to see it through, against the foes we face. We are not our father. We have never been anything more than Viserys Targaryen, rightful ruler of Westeros by right and forethought. To deny this would be to deny reality.
 
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Part MMCMXXVIII: The Dragon and the Storm
The Dragon and the Storm

Eighth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

So much for trying to discuss matters of lesser import first, you think, holding back a sigh. What else is there to talk about beyond the elephant practically perched upon his desk? Asking him about the weather, the health and studies of his alchemists? The irreverent notion turns to something altogether more serious as it occurs to you that those exiled pyromancers are likely the closest look the Lord of Storm's End has had of any sort of sorcery. From that perspective, not wishing Shireen to dabble in it until she is much older makes a great deal more sense, but at the same time you can well imagine how such a fundamental misunderstanding could grow into a rift between father and daughter, one he can ill afford given how few people can be counted close to Stannis Baratheon.

"My lord, I fear I may not have explained clearly enough the manner of sorcery your daughter might awaken to," you begin. "This is not a matter of careful rituals and potions thrice-brewed or the slow art of transmutation. To wield magic as the sorcerers of old is to make one's will manifest upon the world, and so that will must be unshakable, one must believe magic to be a right..."

Baratheon's face darkens. "Power of any sort is a responsibility as much as a right, and Shireen is too young to bear any such a duty. If I were to die she would not be made Lady of Storm's End in full at once, but a regent would be appointed for her."

The words hang uncomfortably in the air as all present know what would be the most likely cause of his early demise. However, you find them hopeful also, for that responsibility is precisely what you wish to remind Stannis of, the responsibility his bother failed to uphold to his lords and to his realm. For now, however, the matter of Shireen's power must be made clear. "Power over others is for others to withhold until the age of reason, but sorcery is something far more fundamental, it is another way to see the world and another way to act upon it as natural as breathing. To a sorcerer, not making use of that power would be akin to wearing a blindfold and keeping one hand ever tied to their side."

To his credit Baratheon is only silent for a moment before asking: "How far does this power stretch, and what are its limits? How might it be used with care and responsibility?"

So it is that you find yourself recounting what is effectively an introductory Scholarum lecture from memory while Maester Cressen's quill scratches diligently upon parchment. By the questions he asks and the comments he makes the old man proves to have a teacher's mindset, leaving you considerably more at ease at the thought of Shireen's education, a feeling you suspect her father shares from the slight relaxation of his face when you mention a more permanent solution in the woks, as soon as you have the time for it a talisman against the perils of the Dream.

The next question to ask is obvious, and the Lord of Storm's End is not one to shy away from asking it: "What are those other calls upon your time?"

No, you were wrong, he is uncomfortable about something, though not of potentially knowing too much and being counted a traitor for it. That is when the truth strikes you, a part of him wants to offer help so that you might get to protecting his daughter all the sooner. You have to force back a smile at the implications of the thought. Be Stannis Baratheon ever so much a man of iron he is not without the temptation of setting his love of his kin before his duty, but that alone is not enough to sway him you know. To obtain his pledge you must make it clear that it is duty also that pushes him towards doing so.

As you had done countless times before you recount the various threats that plague the Seven Kingdoms and beyond, from the depths of the sea to dark worlds beyond this one, you recount the plots of Arch-Devils and Far-Spawn, the Shadow of She-of-Many-Colors rising in the east, and at last the cold breath of Winter blowing ever stronger in the Farthest North.

"I have seen little and late effort to stand against these foes," you conclude, waiting for he inevitable retort.

To your surprise Stannis looks to his maester, proving himself not entirely without some sense of diplomacy, or perhaps he simply cannot bear to praise Tywin Lannister for what should be his bother's duty.

"The Citadel works tirelessly to understand and counter these new threats, the Lantern Bearers cleanse Oldtown and the Golden Shields stand guard against it in the west," Cressen replies, his voice still soft but unwavering.

"They stand guard as watchmen bearing torches at their posts," your mother interjects. "They are blind to all but what happens a few feet in front of their noses. They watch for Devils, and look how many escaped their gaze. They slay smallfolk who deal with Deep Ones, yet the monsters themselves move on and grow fat off the misery of men. There is a saying oft spoken by healers that I think lords should pay more heed to—'an ounce of prevention is worth ten pounds of cure'."

Her voice grows stronger with each word spoken as she looks not to the maester but Stannis himself. From the tenseness of her shoulders you suspect she is struggling to stay seated, though the emotions running through her are strong. "Where then is that prevention? Where are the warnings given to high and low alike? Where are the opportunities for men to make more of themselves, that curdled ambition and broken hopes do not turn to madness? I look to the west and see the boot of Tywin Lannister smashed into the faces of his own people, and I look to the east and see his daughter sneer upon the misfortunes of her subjects."

It is in that moment as silence falls soon to be broken that you decide to wager further, to set one more heavy truth upon the scales of Stannis' convictions: "The smallfolk are not the only ones who must bear the weight of Lannister tyranny and of their fears. I have recently received independent confirmation that he is binding some mages to service by the power of others, because he does not trust them to do their duty. Little wonder I suppose given how the man sees fit to do so his, but still one more injustice, one more danger to the realm..." All under your brother's nose. Though the latter words are unspoken you might as well have shouted them.

"Tywin Lannister should never have been allowed so much freedom to do as he willed only because he was fortunate in his brother's skill," the Lord of Storm's End finally grinds out, forcing himself to turn his ire upon only the Lord of the West, yet the words echo the deeper truth of the matter whether he wishes to or not.

"Yet this is the man who might well be made Hand with Jon Arryn dead," you pronounce starkly. Then you sigh in wholly honest weariness. "My lord, I did not create an army to conquer Westeros but to do so with the least amount of bloodshed and death. I refrain from enslaving mages not only because it is abhorrent, but because even with them all united in purpose it is barely enough. All the wards, all the eyes scattered throughout the world, and yet so many times I was still almost too late. I ask you to join me not because I am strong but because I need help."

Another time, faced with another man, you might have literally reached out a hand, but here and now you dispense with that bit of theatricality and simply wait in the growing silence for an answer.

"Damn you." The words are barely more than a whisper, but then they rise into a shout, the only time you have ever heard Stannis Baratheon raise his voice. "Damn you, Robert, to Hell!"

A moment later he raises his eyes to you, looking embarrassed and almost shocked by his own outburst. "Your Grace, Your Highness, I apologize for my intemperate words," he says stiffly.

Who would have known that your first confirmation of Stannis' allegiance would be calling Dany 'Your Highness', you think, a touch numb yourself.

"If there was ever a reason to curse in company I think you have it in full, my lord," your mother says sympathetically.

Stannis nods, still he is not one to leave things unclear: "I pledge myself to your service, King Viserys. What would you have of me?"

What do you reply?

[] Write in

OOC: Congratulations @Crake for the write-in. This update had good rolls from Viserys, and especially Rhaella, but without the bonus from the write-in itself it would not have been enough.
 
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It feels... kinda anticlimactic to me.
As if we were still a conversation or two away from this result, and it was rushed.

But... I suppose that with the way we have been going around him, it was but inevitable.
A fine chapter, DP, and a fine plan (if a Crazy one, yes), @Crake.
 
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It feels... kinda anticlimactic to me.
As if we were still a conversation or two away from this result, and it was rushed.

But... I suppose that with the way we have been going around him, it was but inevitable.
A fine chapter, DP, and a fine plan (if a Crazy one, yes), @Crake.

Hmm... the vote was pretty clear in ending with a offer and things felt like they flowed well enough on my end. Still I'm always looking to improve for the future, can you put your finger on what felt rushed to you?
 
Ehh, if the vector is "they kill a bunch of PCs" the thought exercise becomes pointless. Neither Lya nor Dany leverage that influence they hold to move matters of state outside counseling Viserys much, when not adventuring or politicking, activities they often do with him there.

Alinor wields her power almost always out of our attention.
Point.

Maybe Dany could do more damage if she ever does her "Dragons exept Tiamat are great" Religion.
Inserting actual Tiamat-worship ihidden in that would have pretty bad long-term effects.
 
I cant belive stanis bent the knee. He would not do it. He is too stubborn.

Here's a list of what you had to do until this point to get him to do it:

  1. Treat him with respect as a prisoner of war
  2. Give him aid and information against devils in his lands
  3. Heal his daughter of a seemingly incurable illness with no immediate request for a reward
  4. Protect his daughter against the dangers of magic
  5. Actively work to defend the Seven Kingdoms as their king even though you had none of the privileges of kingship

Stannis is stubborn, enormously, impossibly stubborn, but he is not insane, he can see the world under his nose and the fact of that matter is Viserys is a more worthy king in his eyes than Robert, just as Robert was more worthy than Aerys during the rebellion. I bears remebering that Stannis has broken oaths of fealty before in extremis.

That said all this disbelief makes me wonder if I should have written this as a Stannis interlude.
 
I could do the next part from Stannis' PoV so as not to break the flow of the story, it's not like he is thinking of anything besides the enormity of his decision.

What do you guys think?
 
Here's a list of what you had to do until this point to get him to do it:

  1. Treat him with respect as a prisoner of war
  2. Give him aid and information against devils in his lands
  3. Heal his daughter of a seemingly incurable illness with no immediate request for a reward
  4. Protect his daughter against the dangers of magic
  5. Actively work to defend the Seven Kingdoms as their king even though you had none of the privileges of kingship

Stannis is stubborn, enormously, impossibly stubborn, but he is not insane, he can see the world under his nose and the fact of that matter is Viserys is a more worthy king in his eyes than Robert, just as Robert was more worthy than Aerys during the rebellion. I bears remebering that Stannis has broken oaths of fealty before in extremis.

That said all this disbelief makes me wonder if I should have written this as a Stannis interlude.
That would have been an amazing interlude. I kinda still want it.
 
The Dragon and the Storm

Eighth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

So much for trying to discuss matters of lesser import first, you think holding back a sigh. What else is there to talk about beyond the elephant practically perched upon his desk? Asking him about the weather, the health and studies of his alchemists? The irreverent notion turns to something altogether more serious as it occurs to you that those exiled pyromancers are likely the closest look the lord of Storm's End has had of any sort of sorcery. From that perspective not wishing Shireen to dabble in it until she is much older makes a great deal more sense, but at the same time you can well imagine how such a fundamental misunderstanding could grow into a rift between father and daughter, one he can ill afford given how few people can be counted close to Stannis Baratheon.

"My lord I fear I may not have explained clearly enough the manner of sorcery your daughter might awaken to," you begin. "This is not a matter of careful rituals and potions thrice-brewed or the slow art of transmutation. To wield magic as the sorcerers of old is to make one's will manifest upon the world and so that will must be unshakable, one must believe magic to be a right..."

Baratheon's face darkens. "Power of any sort is a responsibility as much as a right and Shireen is too young to bear any such a duty. If I were to die she would not be made Lady of Strom's End in in full at once, but a regent would be appointed for her."

The words hang uncomfortably in the air as all present know what would be the most likely cause of his early demise. However you find them hopeful also, for that responsibility is precisely what you wish to remind Stannis of, the responsibility his bother failed to his lords and to his realm. For now however the matter of Shireen's power must be made clear. "Power over others is for others to withhold until the age of reason, but sorcery is something far more fundamental, it is another way to see the world and another another way to act upon it as natural as breathing. To a sorcerer not making use of that power would be akin to wearing a blindfold and keeping one hand ever tied to their side."

To his credit Baratheon is only silent for a moment before asking: "How far does this power stretch and what are its limits? How might be be used with care and responsibility?"

So it is that you find yourself recounting what is effectively an introductory Scholarum lecture from memory while maester Crssen's quill scratches diligently upon parchment. By the questions he h asks and the comments he makes the old man proves to have a teacher's mindset, leaving you considerably more at ease at the thought of Shireen's education, a feeling you suspect her father shares from the slight relaxation of his face when you mention a more permanent solution in the winds, as soon as you have the time for it a talisman against the perils of the Dream.

The next question to ask is obvious and the lord of Storm's End is not one to shy away from asking it: "What are those other calls upon your time?"

No, you were wrong, he is uncomfortable about something, though not of potentially knowing too much and being counted a traitor for it. That is when the truth strikes you, a part of him wants to offer help so that you might get to protecting his daughter all the sooner. You have to force back a smile at the implications of the thought. Be Stannis Baratheon ever so much a man of iron he is not without the temptation of setting his love of his kin before his duty, but that alone is not enough to sway him you know. To obtain his pledge you must make it clear that it is duty also that pushes him towards doing so.

As you had done countless times before you recount the various threats that plague the Seven Kingdoms and beyond, from the depths of the sea to dark worlds beyond this one, you recount the plots of arch-devils and Far-Spawn, the Shadow of She-of-Many colors rising in the east and at last the cold breath of Winter blowing ever stronger in the north.

"I have seen little and late effort to stand against these foes," you conclude, waiting for he inevitable retort

To your surprise Stannis looks to his maester, proving himself not entirely without some sense of diplomacy, or perhaps he simply cannot bear to praise Tywin Lannister for what should be his bother's duty.

"The Citadel works tirelessly to understand and counter these new threat, the lantern Bearers cleanse Oldtown an the Golden shields stand guard against in the west," Cressen replies, his voice still soft but unwavering.

"They stand guard as watchmen bearing torches at their posts," your mother interjects."They are blind to all but what happens a few feet in front of their noses. They watch for devils and look how many escaped their gaze, they slay smallfolk who deal with Deep Ones yet the monsters themselves move on and grow fat off the misery of men. There is a saying oft spoken by healers that I think lords should pay more heed to, 'an ounce of prevention is worth ten pounds of cure'."

Her voice grows stronger with each word spoken as she looks not to the maester but Stannis himself. From the tenseness of her shoulders you suspect she is struggling to stay seated, though the emotions running though her. "Where then is that prevention? Where are the warnings given to high and low alike? Where are the opportunities for men to make more of themselves, that curdled ambition and broken hopes do not turn to madness? I look to the west and see the boot of Tywin Lannister smashed into the faces of his own people and I look to the east and see his daughter sneer upon the misfortunes of her subjects."

It is in that moment as silence falls soon to be broken that you decide to wager further, so set one more heavy truth upon the scales of Stannis' convictions: "The smallfolk are not the only ones who must bear the weight of Lannister tyranny and of their fears. I have recently received independent confirmation that he he binding some mages to service by the power of others, because he does not trust them to do their duty, little wonder I suppose given how the man sees fit do so his, but still one more injustice, one more danger to the realm..." All under your brother's nose. Though the latter words are unspoken you might as well have shouted them.

"Tywin Lannister should never have been allowed so much freedom to do as he willed only because he was fortunate in his brother's skill," the Lord of Storm's End finally grinds, forcing himself to turn his ire upon only the lord of the West, yet the words echo the deeper truth of the matter whether he wishes to or not.

"Yet this is the man who might well be made Hand with Jon Aryn dead," you pronounce starkly. Then you sigh in wholly honest weariness. "My lord I did not create an army to conquer Westeros but do do so with the least amount of bloodshed and death, I refrain from enslaving mages not only because it is abhorrent, but because even with them all united in purpose it is barely enough, all the wards all the eyes scattered throughout the world and yet so many times I was still almost too late. I ask you to join me not because I am strong but because I need help."

Another time, faced with another man you might have literally reached out a hand, but here and now you dispense with that bit of theatricality and simply wait in the growing silence for an answer.

"Damn you," the words are barely more than a whisper, but then they rise into a shout, the only time you have ever heard Stannis Baratheon raise his voice "Damn you, Robert to Hell!"

A moment later he raises his eyes to you, looking embarrassed and almost shocked by his own outburst. "Your Grace, Your Highness, I apologize for by intemperate words," he says stiffly.

Who would have known that your first confirmation of Stannis' allegiance would be calling Dany 'Highness', you think, a touch numb yourself.

"If there was ever a reason to curse in company I think you have it in full my lord," your mother says sympathetically.

Stannis nods, still he is not one to leave things unclear: "I pledge myself to your service King Viserys. What would you have of me?"

What do you reply?

[] Write in

OOC: Congratulations @Crake for the write in. This update had good rolls from Viserys and especially Rhaella but without the bonus from he write in itself it would not have been enough.
Also, do I get to say it, even though it was already pointed out?

I do??

:D

YOU ALL CALLED ME CRAZY!

BUT I WAS RIGHT!
 
The Dragon and the Storm

Eighth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

So much for trying to discuss matters of lesser import first, you think, holding back a sigh. What else is there to talk about beyond the elephant practically perched upon his desk? Asking him about the weather, the health and studies of his alchemists? The irreverent notion turns to something altogether more serious as it occurs to you that those exiled pyromancers are likely the closest look the lord of Storm's End has had of any sort of sorcery. From that perspective not wishing Shireen to dabble in it until she is much older makes a great deal more sense, but at the same time you can well imagine how such a fundamental misunderstanding could grow into a rift between father and daughter, one he can ill afford given how few people can be counted close to Stannis Baratheon.

"My lord I fear I may not have explained clearly enough the manner of sorcery your daughter might awaken to," you begin. "This is not a matter of careful rituals and potions thrice-brewed or the slow art of transmutation. To wield magic as the sorcerers of old is to make one's will manifest upon the world and so that will must be unshakable, one must believe magic to be a right..."

Baratheon's face darkens. "Power of any sort is a responsibility as much as a right and Shireen is too young to bear any such a duty. If I were to die she would not be made Lady of Storm's End in full at once, but a regent would be appointed for her."

The words hang uncomfortably in the air as all present know what would be the most likely cause of his early demise. However you find them hopeful also, for that responsibility is precisely what you wish to remind Stannis of, the responsibility his bother failed to his lords and to his realm. For now, however, the matter of Shireen's power must be made clear. "Power over others is for others to withhold until the age of reason, but sorcery is something far more fundamental, it is another way to see the world and another another way to act upon it as natural as breathing. To a sorcerer not making use of that power would be akin to wearing a blindfold and keeping one hand ever tied to their side."

To his credit, Baratheon is only silent for a moment before asking: "How far does this power stretch and what are its limits? How might be be used with care and responsibility?"

So it is that you find yourself recounting what is effectively an introductory Scholarum lecture from memory, while Maester Cressen's quill scratches diligently upon parchment. By the questions he asks and the comments he makes, the old man proves to have a teacher's mindset, leaving you considerably more at ease at the thought of Shireen's education. It's a feeling you suspect her father shares from the slight relaxation of his face when you mention a more permanent solution in the winds, as soon as you have the time for it a talisman against the perils of the Dream.

The next question to ask is obvious and the lord of Storm's End is not one to shy away from asking it: "What are those other calls upon your time?"

No, you were wrong, he is uncomfortable about something, though not of potentially knowing too much and being counted a traitor for it. That is when the truth strikes you, a part of him wants to offer help so that you might get to protecting his daughter all the sooner. You have to force back a smile at the implications of the thought. Be Stannis Baratheon ever so much a man of iron he is not without the temptation of setting his love of his kin before his duty. That alone is not enough to sway him, you know. To obtain his pledge you must make it clear that it is duty also that pushes him towards doing so.

As you had done countless times before you recount the various threats that plague the Seven Kingdoms and beyond, from the depths of the sea to dark worlds beyond this one, you recount the plots of arch-devils and Far-Spawn, the Shadow of She-of-Many colors rising in the east and at last the cold breath of Winter blowing ever stronger in the north.

"I have seen little and late effort to stand against these foes," you conclude, waiting for he inevitable retort.

To your surprise Stannis looks to his maester, proving himself not entirely without some sense of diplomacy, or perhaps he simply cannot bear to praise Tywin Lannister for what should be his bother's duty.

"The Citadel works tirelessly to understand and counter these new threat. The lantern Bearers cleanse Oldtown and the Golden shields stand guard against threats in the west," Cressen replies, his voice still soft but unwavering.

"They stand guard as watchmen bearing torches at their posts," your mother interjects."They are blind to all but what happens a few feet in front of their noses. They watch for devils and look how many escaped their gaze, they slay smallfolk who deal with Deep Ones yet the monsters themselves move on and grow fat off the misery of men. There is a saying oft spoken by healers that I think lords should pay more heed to, 'an ounce of prevention is worth ten pounds of cure'."

Her voice grows stronger with each word spoken as she looks not to the maester but Stannis himself. From the tenseness of her shoulders you suspect she is struggling to stay seated, though the emotions running though her. "Where then is that prevention? Where are the warnings given to high and low alike? Where are the opportunities for men to make more of themselves, that curdled ambition and broken hopes do not turn to madness? I look to the west and see the boot of Tywin Lannister smashed into the faces of his own people and I look to the east and see his daughter sneer upon the misfortunes of her subjects."

It is in that moment as silence falls soon to be broken that you decide to wager further, so set one more heavy truth upon the scales of Stannis' convictions: "The smallfolk are not the only ones who must bear the weight of Lannister tyranny and of their fears. I have recently received independent confirmation that he he binding some mages to service by the power of others, because he does not trust them to do their duty, little wonder I suppose given how the man sees fit do so his, but still one more injustice, one more danger to the realm..." All under your brother's nose. Though the latter words are unspoken you might as well have shouted them.

"Tywin Lannister should never have been allowed so much freedom to do as he willed only because he was fortunate in his brother's skill," the Lord of Storm's End finally grinds out, forcing himself to turn his ire upon only the lord of the West, yet the words echo the deeper truth of the matter whether he wishes to or not.

"Yet this is the man who might well be made Hand with Jon Aryn dead," you pronounce starkly. Then you sigh in wholly honest weariness. "My lord I did not create an army to conquer Westeros, but do do so with the least amount of bloodshed and death, I refrain from enslaving mages not only because it is abhorrent, but because even with them all united in purpose it is barely enough, all the wards, all the eyes scattered throughout the world and yet so many times I was still almost too late. I ask you to join me not because I am strong but because I need help."

Another time, faced with another man you might have literally reached out a hand, but here and now you dispense with that bit of theatricality and simply wait in the growing silence for an answer.

"Damn you," the words are barely more than a whisper, but then they rise into a shout, the only time you have ever heard Stannis Baratheon raise his voice "Damn you, Robert, damn you to Hell!"

A moment later he raises his eyes to you, looking embarrassed and almost shocked by his own outburst. "Your Grace, Your Highness, I apologize for by intemperate words," he says stiffly.

Who would have known that your first confirmation of Stannis' allegiance would be calling Dany 'Highness', you think, a touch numb yourself.

"If there was ever a reason to curse in company I think you have it in full my lord," your mother says sympathetically.

Stannis nods, still he is not one to leave things unclear: "I pledge myself to your service King Viserys. What would you have of me?"

What do you reply?

[] Write in

OOC: Congratulations @Crake for the write in. This update had good rolls from Viserys and especially Rhaella but without the bonus from he write in itself it would not have been enough.
Made some edits to the chapter, DP.
 
That was a very satisfying chapter, @DragonParadox. The culmination of years of work, succeeding at last.

That said, a Stannis interlude showing his inner thoughts would be great.
 
Also, as I am going to board a flight soon and can't keep my thumb on discussion, I HEAVILY suggest keeping talk of gods and conversion tabled for another time. We should host an impromptu war council instead and talk about ways to prepare against Deep One incursion, as this is the nearest danger, then also offer to clean up anything that Davos hasn't been able to root out so it doesn't cause any surprises later.

We should also offer him wards and gear for any able bodied, trustworthy men so he has his own troubleshooters.
 
Also, as I am going to board a flight soon and can't keep my thumb on discussion, I HEAVILY suggest keeping talk of gods and conversion tabled for another time. We should host an impromptu war council instead and talk about ways to prepare against Deep One incursion, as this is the nearest danger, then also offer to clean up anything that Davos hasn't been able to root out so it doesn't cause any surprises later.

We should also offer him wards and gear for any able bodied, trustworthy men so he has his own troubleshooters.
I was just thinking the same. Stormy can wait for now.

We can offer Stannis knowledge and resources, training for his men, etc.

I wonder if one of Velen's brethren would mind coming to Storm's End to begin instructing Shireen in the basics of sorcery? You couldn't ask for a better influence on her development as a mage than one of those guys.

EDIT: A Phoenix might also not seem too out of place given Selyse's recent conversion to Burnyism.
 
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Also, as I am going to board a flight soon and can't keep my thumb on discussion, I HEAVILY suggest keeping talk of gods and conversion tabled for another time. We should host an impromptu war council instead and talk about ways to prepare against Deep One incursion, as this is the nearest danger, then also offer to clean up anything that Davos hasn't been able to root out so it doesn't cause any surprises later.

We should also offer him wards and gear for any able bodied, trustworthy men so he has his own troubleshooters.
I was just thinking the same. Stormy can wait for now.

We can offer Stannis knowledge and resources, training for his men, etc.

I wonder if one of Velen's brethren would mind coming to Storm's End to begin instructing Shireen in the basics of sorcery? You couldn't ask for a better influence on her development as a mage than one of those guys.

EDIT: A Phoenix might also not seem too out of place given Selyse's recent conversion to Burnyism.
You guys should then make sure Burny doesn't get a foothold in Storm's End before we bring up Stormy, then.

Moving away the Heart Tree is going to be a bother enough, but dealing with Burny on top?
No, T. Hanks.

Honesty, I'd rather bring up the Storm God right away.
 
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I want to being be the Storm God after another update or two of conversation.

By the way, who thinks that the Golden Shields will divine Stannis' allegiance now?
 
You guys should then make sure Burny doesn't get a foothold in Storm's End before we bring up Stormy, then.

Moving away the Heart Tree is going to be a bother enough, but dealing with Burny on top?
No, T. Hanks.

Honesty, I'd rather bring up the Storm God right away.
Too delicate right now. Best get him focused, but keep steady contact to ward against bargains with higher powers we wouldn't recommend.

We are trying to show Stannis we act not just with our own Interests at the heart of our reasoning, but even putting off personal gain and offering to help him better perform his duty will have a groundbreaking , earth shattering effect on how he views us.

Now is the time to gain trust, not rewards.
 
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