Can't we make a custom saddle for the Griffon Knights? Warlord's Saddle + Featherfall and anything else we want to fit on there.
I wouldn't. Cost isn't a concern, but enchanting time is. The saddle alone is 400 IM. Each knight will probably be in about 2000 IM worth of enchanted gear, not counting arms and armor. After a certain amount of resource expenditure, you rapidly reach a point of diminishing returns on the investment.

Feather Fall wouldn't do much good on the saddle anyway. It's better being something added to an item they're wearing, such as their belt or boots.
 
About the current vote...
There are times we can go all subterfuge, and there are times I want to make a scene.

:V

[X] Dywen enters the battlefield
-[X] Dywen and Bee (his apprentice) appears before the house loudly challenging those who dare make a mockery of the work of the gods.
-[X] Use only plant based spells to subdue them and the fake darkenbeast
-[X] When confronted, were here for the conclave
 
BTW, I think our Griffin Knights should predominantly act in an aerial bombardment role. They're going to be riding sentient flying mounts with high speed and perfect maneuverability, making for extremely stable firing platforms.

We can give them enchanted bows and quivers of Abundant Ammunition and they could attack ground and aerial enemies with near impunity.
 
About the current vote...
There are times we can go all subterfuge, and there are times I want to make a scene.

:V

[X] Dywen enters the battlefield
-[X] Dywen and Bee (his apprentice) appears before the house loudly challenging those who dare make a mockery of the work of the gods.
-[X] Use only plant based spells to subdue them and the fake darkenbeast
-[X] When confronted, were here for the conclave

Absolutely, under no circumstances, are we to view the GC and their possession of a Darkenbeast being revealed to the city at large as an acceptable outcome, @Takesis.

The entire point is that just them having a product of our own research can be spin doctored any number of ways into Targaryen interference, which can quickly spiral out of control since the whole point is to start a religious summit, interject somehow to involve the name "Viserys Targaryen (Dread Sorcerer!)" into the whole event, and then escalate, escalate, escalate until everyone is frothing mad one way or another about it.
 
BTW, I think our Griffin Knights should predominantly act in an aerial bombardment role. They're going to be riding sentient flying mounts with high speed and perfect maneuverability, making for extremely stable firing platforms.

We can give them enchanted bows and quivers of Abundant Ammunition and they could attack ground and aerial enemies with near impunity.
I thought that was the default option? I mean, giving them a spear and telling them to charge the ground sounds stupid, and we are literally the only polity with a proper airforce instead of simply having flyers.
 
I thought that was the default option? I mean, giving them a spear and telling them to charge the ground sounds stupid, and we are literally the only polity with a proper airforce instead of simply having flyers.
Never hurts to double check. ;)

Well, maybe at the proctologist... :o
 
The entire point is that just them having a product of our own research can be spin doctored any number of ways into Targaryen interference, which can quickly spiral out of control since the whole point is to start a religious summit, interject somehow to involve the name "Viserys Targaryen (Dread Sorcerer!)" into the whole event, and then escalate, escalate, escalate until everyone is frothing mad one way or another about it.
Maybe we just have to escalate harder.

The Oldtown-conclave can't come to problematic conclusions if there is no Oldtown anymore?
 
There is two kinds of problematic conclusions. Problematic for us and problematic for religious unity. We want the latter. The issue is that the GC has decided they want the former so they must be found, interrogated and processed (at the nearest heart tree or Yss). This is an opportunity. If we make this work we can send the faith into a spiral.
 
Not really totally related, but cleaving to Westerosi intrigue at least, I feel like a reminder is due that Tywin Lannister bound a number of his Lords with enchantments and didn't stop there, but also put a mage minder on them to keep them docile and obedient indefinitely.

If there wasn't a Conclave going, I would almost say that our position in the Reach is almost strong enough that we should start working at that knot in the Westerlands instead, because that is some seriously prime ground for sedition.

Also vaguely related, but to outline

1) We quite literally own three Small Council Seats, and hopefully by the end of the month will have full Inquisition presence in King's Landing.
1.1) For those not leery of counting the Narrow Sea Houses in the same tally, given their relative isolation, half the Houses in the Crownlands are Targaryen loyalists. The other half is about to become less certain that they drank too much of the Lannister kool-aid to go back after we allowed Sandor motherfucking Clegane to become our sister's sworn sword (ON NATIONAL MIRRORVISION!) while conversationally dismissing a largesse of land until one or the other has claimed Tywin's head.

2) Again, a third of the Riverlands Houses are Targaryen Loyalists (or Opportunists), a third are more concerned with murdering their neighbors to pay Hoster Tully any mind at all, and the other third has an overlord who's sniping at Tywin Lannister about how weak their position is. This, when Hoster probably realizes his dynastic alliance is practically worth shit. The only heir of House Arryn from Lysa a cursed babe in arms? Stark-Baratheon tensions? Good luck, Hoss.

3) We own the Iron Islands. Literally. And the Westerlanders did the work for us and helped clean house. Is it possible to be accidentally competent? It must be, because it is perfectly possible to be circumstantially incompetent while performing competently. The Lannisters have zero luck.

4) We are slowly whittling away at the North one House at a time. But leaving aside our plans to make every single one of Ned's bannermen drag their feet when he calls them to Winterfell, we're basically maneuvering to place him in a position where his only two options are to stay out the way, or help us make Robert look even weaker than he already does. No, there isn't a third option. We accounted for that (it involves a black cloak, and the people rocking that latest fashion love us). Tl;Dr, plots and schemes, what will our next Eldrad impersonation involve next?

5) Dorne wanted to kill all our enemies out of simple convenience before we really got rolling. The rest was just a bonus.

6) Conversely, House Tyrell's ploy to secure their rear ended predictably. Not being able to find their ass with both hands and every single one of their fractious bannermen jumping ship faster than the Royal Fleet did when Stannis got sent after us the second time.

7) The Vale has as much in common with the rest of the Seven Kingdoms as Azema does in a Lyseni whore house. Everyone there wants to kill each other, and there's a friend somewhere in the middle fucking everyone else over at the same time.

A year ago I would have commented that we have done precious little in Westeros given how much work is involved sorting through all the politics and regional peculiarities involved.

Now I wonder if people will even react to our domino chain of events leading up to the invasion as if we're responsible, or if it will come across as just monumental misfortune and incompetence on their part, because it's not as if we are leaving much of a trail leading to us with our efforts.

Of course I realize that on the whole incompetence isn't the only answer to our enemies' woes.

We're just that good.
 
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Ah, my favorite word. In all circumstances.

While I don't think Exterminatus will be a practical solution to our problems for a long time to come, I can think of plenty of situations where area saturation bombardment is substantially practical and realistic.

If there's magic for destroying everything in a given area, for example, there's magic to just fix it all afterwards.
 
Point of order. We don't want a specific conclusion of the conclave. We don't want any conclusion. We want the whole thing to go up in flames.

No, not simply have the whole thing end while looking like a massive waste of time that achieved nothing, but a "the Hindenburg crashed into the Titanic and killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand"-grade trainwreck.

We want the Old Towners to accuse the Crownlanders of selling out to the Lannisters, and in return being called dithering fools that ignore the changing world. The only thing they are allowed to agree on is that the people trying to syncretize the Old Gods or Burny into the faith are fucking heretics. Of course, they will in turn be called bigoted zealots and then, suddenly, Lucan starts attacking people and there's a brawl between him, the Most Devout, an Archon and a shit flinging mob.

That's what we want.
 
We want the Old Towners to accuse the Crownlanders of selling out to the Lannisters, and in return being called dithering fools that ignore the changing world. The only thing they are allowed to agree on is that the people trying to syncretize the Old Gods or Burny into the faith are fucking heretics. Of course, they will in turn be called bigoted zealots and then, suddenly, Lucan starts attacking people and there's a brawl between him, the Most Devout, an Archon and a shit flinging mob.

Which reminds me again, Baelor the Blessed as a powerful angel spend his time in the middle of nowhere guarding some sept.
He could have beaten sense and preached nonsense in all these heads in the short time he existed, but no he guarded some sept to foil Bloodraven-plot #152 while letting the other 1000 run rampant. and didn't even succede at that.

That guy pisses me off even in hindsight.
 
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Which reminds me again, Baelor the Blessed as a powerful angel spend his time in the middle of nowhere guarding some sept.
He could have beaten sense and preached nonsense in all these heads in the short time he existed, but no he guarded some sept to foild Bloodraven-plot #152 while letting the other 1000 run rampant. and didn't even succede at that.

That guy pisses me off even in hindsight.
Reserve your hatred for his boss Lucan.

Who we will accuse of the following:
- he serves the Lannisters, because obviously he is in their pocket
- he serves Viserys Targaryen, because he too works with Archons
- he serves Baator, his Archons clearly being fallen angels
- he serves Volantis, because his Archons are clearly flesh crafted monstrosities meant to rile up Westeros to fight the Dread Dragon
- he has been sent by the Seven as a false prophet to test the faithful
 
Which reminds me again, Baelor the Blessed as a powerful angel spend his time in the middle of nowhere guarding some sept.
He could have beaten sense and preached nonsense in all these heads in the short time he existed, but no he guarded some sept to foild Bloodraven-plot #152 while letting the other 1000 run rampant. and didn't even succede at that.

That guy pisses me off even in hindsight.

While an Angel (of the Seven, supposedly, or so a lot of detractors would say), it was also recognizably a Targaryen angel. Baelor motherfucking the Blessed.

It would put Lucan and his band of merry chucklefucks in a precarious situation for that alone, but more so with some heavier scrutiny when the type of Angel he was happened to be discovered.

We were rather incensed when he found out what kind of template it had. Tywin isn't the sort of person who would let another faction hold that kind of power under any circumstances, much less the one he wants to use as a diplomatic beatstick on a short leash. Robert would hate it on principle, and given the fact that strategically he's at most just a strong Fighter type, that the Angel could more easily kill him in battle means pretty much nothing. Lots of stuff could kill him. Stuff has to try hard to kill us.
 
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While an Angel (of the Seven, supposedly, or so a lot of detractors would say), it was also recognizably a Targaryen angel. Baelor motherfucking the Blessed.

It would put Lucan and his band of merry chucklefucks in a precarious situation for that alone, but more so with some heavier scrutiny when the type of Angel he was happened to be discovered.

We were rather incensed when he found out what kind of template it had. Tywin isn't the sort of person who would let another faction hold that kind of power under any circumstances, much less the one he wants to use as a diplomatic beatstick on a short leash. Robert would hate it on principle, and given the fact that strategically he's at most just a strong Fighter type, that the Angel could more easily kill him in battle means pretty much nothing. Lots of stuff could kill him. Stuff has to try hard to kill us.
I disagree with Baelor being a fighter type.
He was clearly a diplomat first, aside from the template.
He was convincing to the few mortals he met, he tried talking first even with us and for all that he might have had the body of a warrior angel Baelor personally is no fighter.

Just having a teleporting, powerful, convincing angel hopping around and talking to the Most Devout and eventual other important Septons and religious figures in the Faith would have helped Lucan a lot to solidify his particular opinion as that of the Seven.
Even if Robert and Tywin wouldn't have liked it, their influence on the church is limited.
 
Great omake @Crake One can practically feel poor Dernys being puled in two directions between his common sense and his attraction to Arianne. There's a certain element of courtly love to it which I suspect appeals to him in no small measure, but even beyond that the sheer detail he is putting into the letter hints that he is developing feelings for her (and not just the usual feelings of lust) Arianne engenders in most of those who catch her eye. I doubt he would be going into that sort of detail about his friends' actions otherwise.

The alchemy details are interesting as a contrast between Waymar (who is skilled at alchemy but ultimately a magic knight) and Denys to whom alchemy is a passion.
 
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I disagree with Baelor being a fighter type.
He was clearly a diplomat first, aside from the template.
He was convincing to the few mortals he met, he tried talking first even with us and for all that he might have had the body of a warrior angel Baelor personally is no fighter.

Just having a teleporting, powerful, convincing angel hopping around and talking to the Most Devout and eventual other important Septons and religious figures in the Faith would have helped Lucan a lot to solidify his particular opinion as that of the Seven.
Even if Robert and Tywin wouldn't have liked it, their influence on the church is limited.
I seem to recall his template was literally a "king-killer."

Somehow I don't think Bobby would have been too appreciative.
 
So... just popping in. According to the vote tally there is only one vote.... Do we not have a plan?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Apr 22, 2019 at 4:01 AM, finished with 60 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Plane Stake Out
    -[X] Determine which town homes nearest the Golden Company's base are currently occupied and which are vacant.
    --[X] Quietly and carefully setup a temporary observation base in the best candidate among the surrounding town homes. If one directly adjacent to the Golden Company base can be acquired without alerting them to our presence, do so even if it is occupied; residents will be cast into enchanted slumber and their memories modified, if necessary. From this observation post, we will monitor the comings and goings of the Golden Company members in Old Town while waiting for the rest of them, especially the more powerful mage, to return from whatever errand they are on.
    --[X] Viserys, Waymar, Richard, and Lya, along with a pair of Erinyes, will maintain the observation post.
    ---[X] Should it prove necessary, Lya will be prepared to immediately drop a Forbiddance ward on the Golden Company's base and the town homes surrounding it, along with the ground beneath it to a depth of at least sixty feet and the air above it to a similar distance, using her Inspired Spell Mythic Power while Viserys uses his Wild Arcana Mythic power to duplicate the effects of a Mirage Arcana spell on the area to temporarily hide the effects of combat from the Lantern Bearers and others within the city.
    --[X] While the Golden Company is being observed, four teams of three Erinyes each will be surreptitiously scouting the surrounding neighborhoods and places determined most likely to contain more of our prey. If any are found, they will contact Viserys before taking further action, either to follow their quarry or to subdue them.
    [X] Dywen enters the battlefield
    -[X] Dywen and Bee (his apprentice) appears before the house loudly challenging those who dare make a mockery of the work of the gods.
    -[X] Use only plant based spells to subdue them and the fake darkenbeast
    -[X] When confronted, were here for the conclave
 
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