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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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dpara said:
Um, seeing as is current story is "usurping authority" do we have any amendments prevent him doing this to us?

I just don't quite get why we'd trust him? I don't get the feeling that he's /will be happy being our subordinate, and seeing e.g. Moonsong how that effects their interpretation of their oaths. Why is he worth that risk?
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There's a limited liability here because his terms of service are temporary is my understanding of things.
 
firefrog600 said:
I'm genuinely confused. Is there really a werebear? because so many people spell it as were creatures when it comes to where creatures. Is were a spelling error or is that genuinely what their called? Because if so they should know they are saying it wrong.
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1) Bite of the Werebear is the name of a spell
2) Were<creature> is the naming pattern for creatures that can supernaturally transform into either an animal or a hybrid form; examples are werewolf, weretiger, wererat and, also, werebear.
See lycantroph.
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[X] Azel
dpara said:
I just don't quite get why we'd trust him?
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We'd trust him insofar as we bet on his selfserving nature and displayed character traits.
 
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dpara said:
Um, seeing as is current story is "usurping authority" do we have any amendments prevent him doing this to us?

I just don't quite get why we'd trust him? As he seems he not happy being our subordinate, and seeing e.g. Moonsong how that effects their interpretation of their oaths. Why is he worth that risk?
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His story is rebellion against the oppression of the Court of Stars, not "ursuping authority". And he seems pretty happy with the terms we offer.
 
Azel said:
His story is rebellion against the oppression of the Court of Stars, not "ursuping authority". And he seems pretty happy with the terms we offer.
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He's just asking for a little bit of insurance. He even didn't ask for 'and guarantee you won't eat me if I annoy you'.
 
MTB said:
1) Bite of the Werebear is the name of a spell
2) Were<creature> is the naming pattern for creatures that can supernaturally transform into either an animal or a hybrid form; examples are werewolf, weretiger, wererat and, also, werebear.
See lycantroph.
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[X] Azel

We'd trust him insofar as we bet on his selfserving nature and displayed character traits.
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You do know were means like in past tense while where means in location right?
 
MTB said:
He's just asking for a little bit of insurance. He even didn't ask for 'and guarantee you won't eat me if I annoy you'.
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If we eat him wouldn't we have to resurrect him with the oaths as of now?

But that isn't my problem, it's more why are we giving a (fairy) dude who, as far as we know is cruel and power hungry, the task of formenting a fairy civil war. A war where we have to personally intercede if he fails intentionally or unintentionally when we have natural existing faultlines with the colors and great bargaining material with the crown.
 
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This were thing is driving me insane what was the thought process of whoever created were creatures? It should be where because were suggests that they aren't any longer that type of creature.
 
dpara said:
Yeah it's a limited time. But what of his talents or "disposition" make him valuable enough to take that risk?
I mean.. he's probably not fairy Aurane.. but do we know that?
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His personal strength and capabilities are unimportant. He is a vector to introduce a Rebellion narrative into the Court of Stars. That court has played the same stories for millenia and plans to subsume the Reach to keep playing it another few. The other Fey will flock to him because his story is exiting, not because he is a good insurgent.

The leadership of the court has to deal carefully with this, as their reaction could gravely hurt their own narrative. And while they walk on eggshells to deal with the little fure we are setting here, we can move on to other attack vectors.
 
[X] Accept, it is as much as you would to for any sworn to you
-[X] Of course, he must in turn swear to never deliberately allow himself to be captured when be would normally be able to flee, or would have made the attempt to flee, if he did not have our assurances.
 
Goldfish said:
[X] Accept, it is as much as you would to for any sworn to you
-[X] Of course, he must in turn swear to never deliberately allow himself to be captured when be would normally be able to flee, or would have made the attempt to flee, if he did not have our assurances.
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This is counterproductive. If the Court of Stars reacts violently to him, we want the narrative leverage of him being captured. That would be just the right length of rope to hang a Fey Lord with.
 
BeepSmile said:
One final question: if we make the tattoo gaurdians now/soon for Lya (and Maelor?) will you allow us to upgrade them to the shiny teleport versions when researched?

@egoo, I humbly request you add something like "teleport-slotless tattoo gaurdians, 15 progress required" to the research list
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egoo said:
I'd do that, had I had any fucking clue to what is being talked about here.
@Goldfish, some help, please?
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I wouldn't even consider wasting research time on this issue. It's a non-issue, actually. If the space is needed to Teleport, Lya can Bottle it or leave it behind temporarily. She has several Smoky Confinement scrolls in her personal stockpile right now.
 
dpara said:
If we eat him wouldn't we have to resurrect him with the oaths as of now?
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Let's see - ""Thou tempts sweeter than devils oh dragon with thy serpent's tongue, but I would have from you an oath before my own is spoken, that should I be captured you would ride a rescue, should I be slain to flesh return me as soon as you are able so long as my service endures. A bargain?""
Yes, we would. -1HD/Con per raise dead. ...
firefrog600 said:
This were thing is driving me insane what was the thought process of whoever created were creatures? It should be where because were suggests that they aren't any longer that type of creature.
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??? But - a human/animal hybrid is neither human nor animal. So, even if the 'were' in the name originated from the English 'to be', it would make sense. Kind of. I don't get how 'where' would make sense?
Azel said:
This is counterproductive. If the Court of Stars reacts violently to him, we want the narrative leverage of him being captured. That would be just the right length of rope to hang a Fey Lord with.
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We riding to the rescue of the rebel would enforce that story ...
Azel said:
Weak.
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Is that the picture of a an albino were-seal?
 
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Azel said:
Indeed. And we can blast them for not coming to help Crimson Lotus when we captured him, but us coming immediately to bail him out.
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Even better if they use him to set a trap for us - if we manage to overcome it. Because on the one hand that would emphasize our value as a lord, and on the other hand emphasize his rebel story as a smooth operator - after all, he managed to get such a good deal. With a mortal.
 
MTB said:
Even better if they use him to set a trap for us - if we manage to overcome it. Because on the one hand that would emphasize our value as a lord, and on the other hand emphasize his rebel story as a smooth operator - after all, he managed to get such a good deal. With a mortal.
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I mean sure. But why this guy?? We could grab any random fairy and get it to swear on us on pain of death/"opportunity to raise". I don't see what makes him valuable.
 
firefrog600 said:
This were thing is driving me insane what was the thought process of whoever created were creatures? It should be where because were suggests that they aren't any longer that type of creature.
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"were-" derives from wer, which is old english for "man, male person". Which in turn is derived from "Weraz", a proto-germanic word for the same thing.
 
dpara said:
I mean sure. But why this guy?? We could grab any random fairy and get it to swear on us on pain of death/"opportunity to raise". I don't see what makes him valuable.
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I mean his story theme is rebellion against the court and if we use that then we can have the Court of the Stars fighting itself rather than trying to turn the reach into fairy land.
 
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