A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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We should put Vee and Malarys in charge of the dragon taming efforts. Vee for her keen knowledge of animals in general, Malarys for his keen knowledge on dragons in particular, and both of them for having no tolerance for posturing and bullshit.
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I actually asked around that direction before. Malarys ironically doesn't have a particularly deep knowledge of dragon taming. DP said he just dominated his dragon through blood magic. I've actually been planning a reservoir of sacrifices for him specifically for that.
Your best bet for dragon tamers is Vee and Nettles teaming up. Maybe Valaena as a cadet of sorts.
Goldfish
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If we Resurrect them all, each should immediately be Bottled. That's a lot of murderlizards and we don't have the facilities and personnel to properly manage and train them. Instead, we can go one or two at a time, while Vee, Nettles, and Malarys train new Dragon handlers, and our new Dragonriders are bonded to them.
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Yeah, bottling is the best way to deal with them until we have the proper infrastructure. Thankfully with the kind of lore we have straight out of Valyria between Malarys' experience and whatever Lady Saenena can tell us we can build something vastly better than the Dragonpit.
Fortunately we can probably present Monford with Meleys the Red Queen right away and arrange for a teleporting schedule so he can train her in Sorcerer's Deep and rule in Driftmark. It'd be awkward, but they need to get used to each other.
All that said, we can also just talk to them via Speak with Animal and tell them the ground rules. They're big, but they're not top dog anymore. No more eating people, no more hunting random herd animals, etc.
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I think we should finally settle that island south-east of SD properly. It's pretty remote and currently uninhabited, probably due to a lack of a decent freshwater source like in Saltcliff.
Due to the isolation, it would make decent spot to house currently untamed dragons to minimize problems from them acting out of line.
Due to the isolation, it would make decent spot to house currently untamed dragons to minimize problems from them acting out of line.
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I was against Viserys having a Dragon (would take up too much of his time, IMO) but the idea of Varys having one has potential.
Sadly, it mostly has powergaming and comedy potential. It loses all the Rule of Cool we wanted from taking the Black Dread
No! Lya should make the point herself.
Preferably with a Contingent Polymorph of some sort. Ideally, she should turn into a Fire Elemental.
Oh! She could cast Ghostform!
Yet.
But we'll undoubtedly find some somewhere, and @Duesal and @egoo will insist on looting its practitioners and books.
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We could, but bottling is just so, so convenient. And it wouldn't tie up Companion time, and we could make our selections on the new dragon riders. Either way, I won't object to the island idea, I just think the bottling is the more ideal option.
EDIT: Scratch that, bottling is the safer option. Having them away from Sorcerer's Deep leaves them vulnerable to surprise attacks. Let's just bottle them and let them out as we find appropriate candidates for riders.
It was never in doubt.
I want all the forbidden lore, right down to Lolth's sacrifice instructions.Speaking of Lolth, I wonder what those Drow are up to.
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That wasn't an argument against bottling them for now, since these are mostly feral dragons of considerable size, so keeping them on the shelf is only prudent. However, we do need a location where, for example Monford, can actually train their dragons and SD is a bad place for that.
The island would also provide a lot more room for the dragons to stretch their legs and wings. We could also add some fake volcanos there by digging some caves into the mountains and providing heat by the same spellwork we use for the smelters. So you would get a network of dragon-sized, searing hot caves for them to live and laze around in when their riders are away.
Basically, do the exact opposite of what the Dragonpit did. Leave them plenty of room and a proper habitat instead of chaining them into cages.
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Goldfish
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My Magpie-speak might be rusty, @TalonofAnathrax, but I think @Duesal just hinted that he wants a Drow Assassin omake.
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I want @Goldfish security on that island to make sure Lannisters or Devils or Deep Ones don't try to get sneaky, along with explicit agreement from the wild dragons to not wander off. Being able to talk to animals is a skill meant to be abused like this.
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I do hope you are aware that something being in SD doesn't automatically make it 1,000% safer then anywhere else on the planet.
The best security remains regular Divinations from the House of Mirrors, a good garrison of 1,000 people and the place being off limits for anything except governmental traffic. If you are afraid of Scry & Die, then nobody can help you, because that can happen anywhere and at any time, but isolating them means that infiltration will become a lot harder.
A Maester trying to poison our dragons has it much easier to stay hidden in a metropolis like SD then in a remote military outpost where you can't fart without being asked for the right parole for the day and which unit you belong to.
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I mainly just want some kind of construct guardian stationed there at all times. Preferably a Herald with some attendant Elemental Wyrmlings.
EDIT: I'd certainly love the garrison there as well.
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And what is the Herald supposed to do that a irate feral dragon can't?
To say nothing about the fact that I would have Balerion chill there whenever he isn't with us, so the first line of defense is something that could use a Herald as a toothpick.
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Coordinate with the local garrison for one thing. The feral dragons are powerful but ultimately still animals.
Why bother with fakes? If your making a volcano, go full-bore. Use the titan tools to make a hole deep enough in the centre of the island to dig down to the mantle and dredge that lava up. Make sure you don't cause an eruption while doing so.
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I actually expect the Summer Islands to have useful sex-based magic!It was never in doubt.
Speaking of Lolth, I wonder what those Drow are up to.
Aren't orgies part of their religious practices?
@Goldfish, well spotted about the Omake. I had entirely missed that point.
I'll try over the weekend, if I can finish that "super cool idea" I've been struggling with since Sandor turned up IC...
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Sex is a form of worshipping their god, yes. Their priestesses are very experienced in it.
More seriously, this is probably derived from ancient fertility rituals which involved consummating the pact with the local priestess. Sex ritual magic was serious business.
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Because of the whole "not accidentally make it erupt" thing. Also, knowing our luck, we would just drill straight into a Drow city.
Furthermore, it's much easier to control the temperature with enchantments.
The Heralds have no animal handling skill though, so communication would fail on the other side.
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I just wanted the badass construct dragon to play guardian for the nesting site.
I don't want another repeat of Cannibal eating up hatchlings if it can be helped.In any case, every wild dragon gets tagged and registered in the Imperium Records, with a scale and blood sample collected if needed for emergency divinations. Along with whatever security measures Goldfish puts forth.
What was the result of that? Some kind of horrific halfbreed like the Blood Maidens we have in the Larder?EDIT: Speaking of Glabrezu's, we know the name of one. Ik'chol the Ravener. I'm looking forward to eventually fighting him. DP said he had class levels.
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Goldfish
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Yes, exactly.