Is like to chime in too, @DragonParadox.
Some days we can get 10 or even 15 pages of discussion, no matter the amount of updates (although they certainly help :V)

Unless we ourselves somehow slow down planning, discussing, and meme-ing, I don't think there's "fixing" this.

Nor do I think there is need for that, really.
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I always get a kick out when Viserys' inhuman characteristics get brought up in a mundane fashion. I've seriously been considering writing an omake with Viserys holding court while in his Dragon form for shits and giggles.
Nearly forgot to comment on this.

Do it. The trick to humanize and normalize people with extraordinary powers and abilities is to show them using them for thoroughly mundane things. It can turn a overpowered superpower into an actual character trait once you show that it doesn't just exist when it's needed for badassness.

Even Superman has to take a shower after all.
 
I dont have a problem with the speed of update and story progression as a reader. But the speed of discussion dose stop me from being as involved with the thread as I first imagined when I caught up. I can normally check this thread once or twice a day, more than enough to read the updates for that day, but not enough to read all the discussion, and then come up with meaningful contributions. The times I do post its mostly namevoting the leading plan just to be visible in the thread.

A slower pace in the story and discussion would probably contribute to me posting more, but at the end of the day, following the story is more important to me than contributing to the discussion, so I would prefer to keep the pace up.
 
Even Superman has to take a shower after all.
Showering isn't the issue for Superman. It's the shaving that would be problematic, IMO.

Shaving is enough of a pain in the ass for me that I can barely be bothered to use my electric razor every few days. If I needed to use my magic laser vision to carefully shave without accidentally angling the beam wrong and burning a hole through three miles of neighborhood homes, I would be one grungy looking Kryptonian.
 
Showering isn't the issue for Superman. It's the shaving that would be problematic, IMO.

Shaving is enough of a pain in the ass for me that I can barely be bothered to use my electric razor every few days. If I needed to use my magic laser vision to carefully shave without accidentally angling the beam wrong and burning a hole through three miles of neighborhood homes, I would be one grungy looking Kryptonian.

I thought the reason he could do that was due to 'tactile telekinesis' otherwise known as this week's handwavium.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 31, 2019 at 6:45 AM, finished with 224 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Plan Framing Device
    -[X] Let Dany cast a Divination about the following plan to ensure it goes off fine.
    -[X] Viserys uses the Wayfinder now and then again near the room with Pycelle to triangulate Robert and to make an educated guess where he is.
    -[X] Disguise yourself as Varys and approach the room they are in on foot.
    -[X] Politely ask Joffrey about his wellbeing and how the lessons are.
    -[X] Tell him that Robert has send for Joffrey and you came for that reason and because you wanted to talk with Pycelle.
    -[X] Once you are alone with Pycelle, do the Turtle Beam and stuff him in a bag.
    -[X] Viserys goes on to Chatayas to start the ritual while Dany loots the dragonbones in the cellars before following.
 
Showering isn't the issue for Superman. It's the shaving that would be problematic, IMO.

Shaving is enough of a pain in the ass for me that I can barely be bothered to use my electric razor every few days. If I needed to use my magic laser vision to carefully shave without accidentally angling the beam wrong and burning a hole through three miles of neighborhood homes, I would be one grungy looking Kryptonian.
Well, and now imagine what Supergirl has to go through.
 
Well, and now imagine what Supergirl has to go through.
Don't be silly. The Kryptonians genetically engineered themselves to remove excess body millennia ago. They kept facial hair for...reasons. :V

Otherwise, that poor girl.

Or maybe not. Growing up in her native culture, rather being raised from childhood in the US, she probably wouldn't have the same taboos we've developed around body hair, especially for females.
 
Well,the reason I falling out because the time when I wake up is the time when DP go to sleep.

But that nothing can help that thought.:p
 
So having read though the concerns raised overnight about the thread moving too fast and this being a strain to keep up with and/or losing the emotional weight of big moments I have to ask do you guys think that is the case?

I ask because I know that is one of the problems I would not naturally pick up on because it often feels like we are moving too slow especially in the midst of complex intrigue actions like this, like I'm narrowing down the focus of the thread away from the rest of the world.

Should I slow down, take the time to write more interludes, or just move though the arc to keep the narrative as cohesive as possible, or should I do something else different?

All suggestions are welcome.
I do quite like these "in depth" actions, it gives us several updates with the same characters/scenery. Over time we've accumulated a pretty gigantic cast&number of locations and the development opportunities are that much lower because of it (e.g. I'm struggling to remember when we've last interacted with Lya for two chapters in a row, but I'm also a sucker for the "mundane" chapters).


I think you are doing good, the turn rework improved things a lot but also think you're living the hard life when trying to create drama for a character with Bloodwish, Teleport and near infinite money
(My GM response to that would be "you win, your character is now a setting NPC" ^^).
 
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So having read though the concerns raised overnight about the thread moving too fast and this being a strain to keep up with and/or losing the emotional weight of big moments I have to ask do you guys think that is the case?

I ask because I know that is one of the problems I would not naturally pick up on because it often feels like we are moving too slow especially in the midst of complex intrigue actions like this, like I'm narrowing down the focus of the thread away from the rest of the world.

Should I slow down, take the time to write more interludes, or just move though the arc to keep the narrative as cohesive as posibile, or should I do something else different?

All suggestions are welcome.
I for one would appreciate more interludes for things that are more important. The Grand Festival for example deserves the most interludes of anything we've had in the entire quest.
 
So having read though the concerns raised overnight about the thread moving too fast and this being a strain to keep up with and/or losing the emotional weight of big moments I have to ask do you guys think that is the case?

I ask because I know that is one of the problems I would not naturally pick up on because it often feels like we are moving too slow especially in the midst of complex intrigue actions like this, like I'm narrowing down the focus of the thread away from the rest of the world.

Should I slow down, take the time to write more interludes, or just move though the arc to keep the narrative as cohesive as posibile, or should I do something else different?

All suggestions are welcome.
I should have been clearer. It is the discussion I am having trouble keeping up with...

Not sure how we can fix that.
 
I should have been clearer. It is the discussion I am having trouble keeping up with...

Not sure how we can fix that.

Our very own subforum. muhaha.

..but you are right I've also often had to ask myself the question if I should reply to something two pages ago, while two other conversations are going on.
 
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Speaking of the festival, there's a bit of disconnect as the visitors seem to miss the huge trade fleet we are gathering.

I'd say we have them do a practice tour around the stepstones to come in just in time for the festival for the official launch. Also to give more time for all the ships to gather that is.
 
So having read though the concerns raised overnight about the thread moving too fast and this being a strain to keep up with and/or losing the emotional weight of big moments I have to ask do you guys think that is the case?

I ask because I know that is one of the problems I would not naturally pick up on because it often feels like we are moving too slow especially in the midst of complex intrigue actions like this, like I'm narrowing down the focus of the thread away from the rest of the world.

Should I slow down, take the time to write more interludes, or just move though the arc to keep the narrative as cohesive as posibile, or should I do something else different?

All suggestions are welcome.
You slowing down doesn't mean the thread slows down - count the pages filled during your absence (ie, at night).
(My GM response to that would be "you win, your character is now a setting NPC" ^^).
We 'won' the murderhobo part, but there's the Empire part ...
 
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To put my own two cents in it doesn't matter how slow DP writes because there will always be a lot of discussion happening in this thread. We have a million things going on while a vote is occurring. It really isn't a problem that can be solved just by less content. There isn't really a good solution to the problem because discussion will happen regardless of DP posting - look at last night.
 
I distinctly remember some times where the thread moved so slowly there was basically no one home.

I don't like losing track of everything, but thread ghost town isn't a much better feeling.

Even if it's never quite for long.
 
It's because the setting's grown so much. Larder, minor actions, turn plan, crisis of the day, spaceship development, NOT a catgirl design, 'look, these are cool spells', 'I made a custom prestige class for ...', morality debates ...
Sometimes even omakes ... (other makers stuff or what?)
 
It's because the setting's grown so much. Larder, minor actions, turn plan, crisis of the day, spaceship development, NOT a catgirl design, 'look, these are cool spells', 'I made a custom prestige class for ...', morality debates ...
Sometimes even omakes ...
Mmmmm, sorcerers deep would be a pretty nice campaign setting.
 
So having read though the concerns raised overnight about the thread moving too fast and this being a strain to keep up with and/or losing the emotional weight of big moments I have to ask do you guys think that is the case?

I ask because I know that is one of the problems I would not naturally pick up on because it often feels like we are moving too slow especially in the midst of complex intrigue actions like this, like I'm narrowing down the focus of the thread away from the rest of the world.

Should I slow down, take the time to write more interludes, or just move though the arc to keep the narrative as cohesive as posibile, or should I do something else different?

All suggestions are welcome.
To me, it's just a lot of people discussing things really fast, when I couldn't just keep an open tab (like these last few days where I was on a friends and we were, well, playing RPGs too).

Not the chapters themselves. These have been 3-5 since always, and that's perfectly fine.

Since Chirstmas/New Years the thread's entered turbo mode. It happens now and again.
 
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Part MMDLXXXIX: The Stolen Scholar
The Stolen Scholar

Thirteenth Day of the Eighth Month 293 AC

As you slip into Varys's form you realize something that had escaped your conscious notice during your momentary confrontation with the eunuch's arcane doppelganger—he is considerably lighter on his feet than one might assume by the plump pale face and carefully cut robes. Though you certainly would not wish to run any foot races in this form, you suspect he is capable of bursts of swiftness that would shock most opponents, possibly the last shock of their lives for some.

"...I think it's safe to go," Dany cuts into your musing. You had not heard the prophecy she offered, though clearly the questions she asked were deft enough to skirt the edge of your own veiled presence. Rather than follow you afoot your sister takes on a hatchling's form and hides in the folds of your cloak.

A few quick calculations later you discern that the Usurper is fortunately in the training field before lunch. Natural enough that he would call his son then, perhaps for a brief fatherly lesson.

Banishing the smoke of incense from the small room you step out into the corridor, walking on soft and silent feet as you dimly recall Varys did. It would not be enough to trick one who knew him well, you suspect, but who in the Red Keep could claim to know the Spider? As you approach the royal apartments by the servants' ways you narrowly avoid a maid struggling to carry twin buckets of hot water for a lady's bath, perhaps the queen's, though her burdens are clearly ordinary enough that she can afford to listen to the news one of her companions is sharing.

"So then when Ser Selmy found the little princess the Queen shouted at him on account of her being dirty and he just stood there and let her do it until the King showed up and said: 'What was he supposed to do, dunk her in a horse-trough on the way?' The king has a fine way with every woman 'cept his wife."

Though you might have wished to linger and listen to more gossip you move quickly on, until you find yourself at the door to the the familiar chamber you had visited so many times in the flesh as a boy. The high windows were still tinted ever so slightly yellow from age, the floor still creaked, and the bunches of dried herbs still made your nose itch...

"Your Highness," you begin with a deep bow to the boy. "Your father bid me to tell you that he wishes to see you on the field while I speak to the Grand Maester."

The boy prince's eyes light up with more than the relief of being rid of a boring lesson. You read surprise there at being so summoned. Does Baratheon truly spend so little time with him?

"Is he going to teach me how to fight? Does he want me to try a hammer? Mother said I'm too little for it, but she's not a fighter of course, and uncle Jaime said it's not a good idea to become wedded to any weapon before I'm at least a squire's age..." He trails off, struggling for some exaggerated image of lordly disdain, like seeing a mummer trying to play Tywin Lannister poorly. "I suppose you wouldn't know fighting either, then?"

"Not as your father and uncle do, no," you answer, allowing a smile to slip onto your features. To your surprise it is not wholly feigned. Though the prince does not have the innocence of his sister, you struggle to count him a foe in truth. "As to your other questions I confess I cannot say, only bring you the word of the king."

Young Joffrey rushes past you without a word of thanks or parting. From Pycelle's expression that is ordinary enough not to elicit comment. Poor form for a prince, your mother would have scolded you had you behaved thus to any member of the small council.

Turning to the Grand Maester himself you briefly considering tossing some accusation in his face, perhaps asking him how much gold the lives of those who died in the sack were worth. In the end you are silent save for the words that reduce him to a small unthinking beast.

***​

Upon your return to Chataya's you discover that Maelor had not yet managed to arrange a meeting with Baelish, but your mother had been successful in finding Varys's tailor though she had not yet had not yet approached him. "Purity started glowing in its sheath as we drew close," Waymar explains grimly. "We counted it best to avoid any battle while Varys was yet unaware that we hunt him."

"We meaning the two of them," Nuri huffs, though more from form than an honest gripe you would judge. The arcanum may be uncommonly eager to prove herself, but she still shares Lya's sharp wit.

"Don't worry, you will have your fight before this is over," you assure her.

Drawing forth the staff wrought in cursed flame and forged again by Yss's power you begin to weave it through the exacting patterns of the curse, each step flowing into the net and cold hissing words older than mankind swift and light upon the tongue. You can feel the weight of the ancient serpent god twisting in the dark beyond the ritual circle, you can almost hear the rasp of his scales as you lift the staff high and strike the strip of skin with all your strength. Cold green light fills the hidden chamber beneath the streets and King's Landing seen only for an instant for the eyes of flesh... but for the gaze of spirit it lingers, a beacon that will be the end of Varys you dearly hope.

"Quick, the mirror," you call urgently. Before the words had even been spoken in full Nuri passes it along. The glass ripples like water struck with a stone before revealing a familiar vista: swaggering bravos and merchants hawking their goods, light spilling from the doorways of taverns into the mist, the Moonpool in Braavos.

"Of all the da...rn place," Dany half-curses before glancing at your mother. "Do you think the Sealord will understand if we kill Varys there, or aught we wait?"

What do you do?

[] Teleport in and fight Varys
-[] Write in with whom and any extra buffs

[] Speak to the Sealord first and explain the situation

[] Wait and try to scry Varys again later


OOC: Sorry this took so long. I had to roll up both other groups and it was a close thing.
 
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