Guys, much as I hate to be a killjoy (and this is a very fun discussion) keep in mind that you would be revealing that you can infiltrate the Red Keep. That would cause them to up their security by any means available.

... Does Viserys hold the assumption that there are probably one or two infiltrators that did a few low risk investigations/actions on his own castle?

Personally, considering the ease at which a skilled mage can bypass muggles at various junctures (espically a social soecced one, see last time we were in the castle ;)) and the scaricity of mages in general, so few available to work on security, I feel it would be a safe one to make.
 
Hmm, ok. I get that being ourselves would be fun, but I think that's actually a crux for this.

What do people think? Should we be openly ourselves, or should be just throw shade without being totally blatant? I'm torn, myself.
I thinking looking like a dragonseed and tossing around a few hints is more than enough. It'll drive Cersei up the wall, but no-one rational will actually belive Viserys Targaryen is traipsing around the Red Keep.
 
Varys should not live to see another sunrise, all goes well. And he'll GTFO if it goes badly because he knows we're on to him after noticing his Imp is gone.

Security will rise regardless, because we're going to try and kill the Master of Whispers and robbing them of Dragon eggs and bones, if not the complete treasurie.

We can always get spies inside the old fashioned way. Paying off the servants that already serve, or letting spies get hired.
I didn't actually think we'd be able to find him today. I was thinking that it might take a bit longer than that to track down his tailor let alone find a connection from his tailor to him.
 
... Does Viserys hold the assumption that there are probably one or two infiltrators that did a few low risk investigations/actions on his own castle?

Personally, considering the ease at which a skilled mage can bypass muggles at various junctures (espically a social soecced one, see last time we were in the castle ;)) and the scaricity of mages in general, so few available to work on security, I feel it would be a safe one to make.

It's posibile, though you also got your servants subverted back in the day.,
 
Hmm, ok. I get that being ourselves would be fun, but I think that's actually a crux for this.

What do people think? Should we be openly ourselves, or should be just throw shade without being totally blatant? I'm torn, myself.

We may want to get into the red keep at a later time without them upping the security. One of the reasons for doings so is a easier time to take out certain people.
There is also the possibily that we spook certain people and that they vanish before we can get our hands on them.

Varys should not live to see another sunrise, all goes well. And he'll GTFO if it goes badly because he knows we're on to him after noticing his Imp is gone.

we didn´t go after the imp for now and i don´t think we plan to do so before we got our hands on Varys just to make sure he can´t run ?

I also expect that this takes at least several hours if not days more before we get our hands on Vars, which is enough time for this to spook him.
 
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Also did we ever find out what Maegors wards did @Duesal? I seem to recall them being able to block Scrying into the Keep along with Teleporting inside. Anything else that we know off?
 
Guys, much as I hate to be a killjoy (and this is a very fun discussion) keep in mind that you would be revealing that you can infiltrate the Red Keep. That would cause them to up their security by any means available.
@Snowfire, this is something to consider. We had plans to infiltrate the Red Keep, and if we troll Cersei and Robert by letting them know we were here and came in contact with Myrcella, it will botch our plans for espionage.
Also did we ever find out what Maegors wards did @Duesal? I seem to recall them being able to block Scrying into the Keep along with Teleporting inside. Anything else that we know off?
We did not, no. Only that they were nasty, and the teleporting and scrying that you mentioned.
 
@Snowfire, a compromise might be in order? Make ourselves be a random dragonseed and leave a false name. That should be enough for the queen to make the connection in her paranoia.
 
IC insight again: Cersei is high ranking enough that she can get someone to divine the question and when that hits a brick wall it will confirm her suspicions.
Which probably means we don't want Marcella to remember anyone colorful or interesting enough to remark to Cersei, who will then hit our Mindblank, confirming that it is Viserys as that's been their usual response when divining our actions.
 
@Snowfire, a compromise might be in order? Make ourselves be a random dragonseed and leave a false name. That should be enough for the queen to make the connection in her paranoia.

That's the problem -- her making the connection at all is not a good thing for our plans. It would be funny, sure. It would also preemptively botch our own efforts for espionage in King's Landing and the Red Keep. DP just warned us that Cersei and Robert would promptly upgrade their spies by any means necessary.
 
@Goldfish is it possible to make a moving image of Balerion with sound while also making the actual Balerion invisible? I was thinking we could just have Myrcella chase an illusion back from where she came from, instead of actually interacting with her.
 
We may want to get into the red keep at a later time without them upping the security. One of the reasons for doings so is a easier time to take out certain people before
There is also the possibily that we spook certain people and that they vanish before we can get our hands on them.



we didn´t go after the imp for now and i don´t think we plan to do so before we got our hands on Varys just to make sure he can´t run ?

I also expect that this takes at least several hours if not days more before we get our hands on Vars, which is enough time for this to spook him.

Woops, you're right. We didn't actually go for the Imp. I misread the first part of the update as the Imp offering to help us capture Varys, but Viserys not trusting it.

That said, the point stands. If we were to steal anything of value - which Dragon eggs certainly are as they were trying to make Joffrey a Dragonriders - then security would rise regardless.
 
That's the problem -- her making the connection at all is not a good thing for our plans. It would be funny, sure. It would also preemptively botch our own efforts for espionage in King's Landing and the Red Keep. DP just warned us that Cersei and Robert would promptly upgrade their spies by any means necessary.
Who would believe her? She is shown to be paranoid and over all unstable. At most they would half heartedly humor her before moving on
 
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I still think that removing such a high-value piece from the board could have been hilarious, but A. That is almost certainly my inner Chaos speaking, and B. Nobody here has a plan to prevent fallout and I'm not clever enough to come up with one myself.
 
That's the problem -- her making the connection at all is not a good thing for our plans. It would be funny, sure. It would also preemptively botch our own efforts for espionage in King's Landing and the Red Keep. DP just warned us that Cersei and Robert would promptly upgrade their spies by any means necessary.

They're going to do so regardless of knowing it was Viserys personally. We won't get away with stealing their Dragon eggs, bones or other objects of value without them noticing and taking precautions. Same goes for making Varys disappear. The disappearance of a member of the Small Council will certainly cause worry among the inhabitants of the Keep, and if the Divinations return nothing, fear will set in since they could be next.
 
@Goldfish is it possible to make a moving image of Balerion with sound while also making the actual Balerion invisible? I was thinking we could just have Myrcella chase an illusion back from where she came from, instead of actually interacting with her.
Yes. Minor Image and Invisibility would do it, or we could just use Modify Memory to change her recollection of the encounter to believe the cat ran away from her.
 
Silly idea, grab a street cat (sell it on the idea that it gets a nice safe castle), Polymorph any object it into looking like balerion, permance it via diamond if need be, then magic aura it to look like it has no enchantments (with diamond dust). Neat and tidy :).

Otherwise princess might get mummy to get a mage to look for her lost kitty.

Honestly, this is very unlikely imo. I'm just using it as justification for a plan to replace a cat :).
 
Yes. Minor Image and Invisibility would do it, or we could just use Modify Memory to change her recollection of the encounter to believe the cat ran away from her.
I think the problem with that would be she's probably has an item that protects her from enchantments and the like. Speaking of which @DragonParadox does Viserys see any magic items on her or would casting said spell be too conspicuous?
 
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