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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
No way to know without poking the crown itself IC.
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I'm asking because I've seen several instances of Mind Blank being bypassed when we should have been protected, and I was originally planning to just stuff the crown away in Viserys' cloak since that's by far the safest place in our kingdom for any treasure. I'm not sure that'll work out if it turns out the crown can somehow influence him from there.

What about putting a lead box around it, then putting it in our cloak? Yeah, that should work.
 
MTB said:
Yup, your interpretation of "The subject is protected from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts." gives us more leeway than mine would.
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Telepathic communication doesn't do any of those things. It's an incoming transmission, nothing more. We send out if we want to reply. It's like how PfE doesn't protect you from Suggestion.
 
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Duesal said:
I'm asking because I've seen several instances of Mind Blank being bypassed when we should have been protected, and I was originally planning to just stuff the crown away in Viserys' cloak since that's by far the safest place in our kingdom for any treasure. I'm not sure that'll work out if it turns out the crown can somehow influence him from there.

What about putting a lead box around it, then putting it in our cloak? Yeah, that should work.
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It's very unlikely to influence him from inside the cloak since that is another plane of existence and the cloak itself is an artifact.
 
DragonParadox said:
OK, I'm back and I thought of the thread champion system and how to make it as fair and engaging as posibile:
  1. The thread elects a speaker with a certain number of votes
  2. The conversation between me and the speaker is in the thread visible to all so if someone wants to interject and offer suggestions to the speaker they can though of course it is up to him or her whether to take them since the speaker is the one voted in
  3. The speaker can of course choose to have the conversation drop to a full thread vote
  4. Finally at any point any player can call a time out to have the conversation drop to a thread vote. If the motion gets more votes than the speaker got initially then we move to a vote
I do not expect the last point to be invoked often given the cooperative attitude we have here however as with any democratic system however simple it pays to cover edge cases from the start.

What do you guys think?
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Thanks, but no thanks. I like things just the way they are.
 
Duesal said:
That's reassuring, but we're still surrounding it in lead just in case. No trusting the evil fae crown.

I like the way you think.
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Not my first time fighting metaphysics with metaphysics ;)

Also calling it evil is, I feel, a little unfair. Still, these measure shall suffice.

On a voting note, I want to speak to Paxter without Dusk-Dancer at his arm before we leave. We clearly struck a personal nerve, and now's the time to capitalise. Oh, and Dusk-Dancer can tell us where to go to meet those who can actually parlay with us. Like she can't.
 
egoo said:
Is there a way to put a jungleraiser-like effect on it to boot, so that if it happens to be a fey-artifact and opens the box it gets dunked?

*highly unlikely scenarios fuel my paranoia, don't stop me now*
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That would require them to bypass the safeguards of an artifact built on foundations of conceptual greed. If they can do that, there's no point in fighting them.
 
@DragonParadox, I, for one, am totally in favor of utilising a "one person vs DM" system once a sufficiently important/difficult argument comes up.

They aren't that frequent anyway, but it will be easier on my nerves to read such without us getting bashed every update.

Which does happen every time in an argument like that.
Wyla. Rhaella. This.

When we need to act subtly and hit on-point rolling for a bunch if arguments at once doesn't work well.
 
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Fey Lady: Hah bet he's scared now. He'll either leave the crown there or try and get rid of it, and even then it'll influence his mind. Either way it'll come to the court and I'll win in the end.

Viserys: I'll put the crown in a box, then I'll put that box in another box, and then I'll mail that box to myself through my cloak of Archduke of hell skin, and when I finally get bored of it I'll put the box within a box in a giant snake god who embodies the very concept of truth and honest dealings.

Fey Lady: Wait no-
 
Snowfire said:
Not my first time fighting metaphysics with metaphysics ;)

Also calling it evil is, I feel, a little unfair. Still, these measure shall suffice.

On a voting note, I want to speak to Paxter without Dusk-Dancer at his arm before we leave. We clearly struck a personal nerve, and now's the time to capitalise. Oh, and Dusk-Dancer can tell us where to go to meet those who can actually parlay with us. Like she can't.
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I'm just overtly hostile towards anything that has a chance of influencing us in spite of our Mind Blank. I freely acknowledge my bias in this, but also won't act on it if the appropriate safety measures are taken.
 
I have flashback of warhammer knightquest here.

I feel like our GM actually have lower opinion on the fey than KnightQuest.

Like the saying go that "We can trust dark elf or daemon more than we can trust the fey"

I support to talk with mortal Reach Lord without the fey to heating thing up.

We can count her word as offering the crown to us fey style.

Then we sacrifice that crown no problem.:p
 
Have we started wearing our crown openly yet, or are we still keeping it Glamered so people don't realize it is the Targaryen Crown?
 
Snowfire said:
More than fair. How's our Cold Iron stockpile? We'll need some to do this right.
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We have... okay, what the fuck?

We should have hundreds of pounds of Cold Iron, but it's not listed on the front page. Did I miss it in my edits? :???:

Sorry, bear with me for a second. This is obviously my mistake, I'll need a few minutes to hunt it down. Thank god I keep track of all our loot.
 
Duesal said:
We have... okay, what the fuck?

We should have hundreds of pounds of Cold Iron, but it's not listed on the front page. Did I miss it in my edits? :???:

Sorry, bear with me for a second. This is obviously my mistake, I'll need a few minutes to hunt it down. Thank god I keep track of all our loot.
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According to the Plane Of Fire Loot II List we took 21,980 kgs of Cold Iron in the form of the doors. Mind you, this was our only significant supply of Cold Iron. Before that we literally just had the one Cold Iron Longsword that the Assassin Devil used to try to kill Fey!Renly.

Anyway, that's 48,457.605 lbs of Cold Iron in our inventory.
 
Snowfire said:
How was she an occasion like the other oness you've referred to? I thought her rehabilitation went fine,
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Have you not spend several updates throwing wild guesses around, although somewhat split between other actions, before you hit all the right buttons?

Don't you think that having a direct "dialogue" between her and Viserys would have been just a bit more efficient?

But true, that's doesn't matter now, not anymore.

My other arguments still hold value, I think.
While I totally don't mind going with "Viserys doesn't lose points from a write-in if interrupted", some things will require direct management, or we'd all be feeling like fools.

I think that yesterday's saltsplosion showed just how many people feel that current system doesn't work quite well when we are running at high-stakes.
 
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egoo said:
Have you not spend several updates throwing wild guesses around, although somewhat split between other actions, before you hit all the right buttons?

Don't you think that having a direct "dialogue" between her and Viserys would have been just a bit more efficient?
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No, and not at all. The Rhaella interludes we got from DP gave me everything I needed to work with. My main problem was convincing the thread that what I was doing made sense :V

It's more common than people would think. I wasn't joking when I said that mental health support can often seem contradictory as hell if viewed from the outside.
 
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