"He just declared himself as Holy Roman Emperor!" The Austrians glares menacingly at France.
France's Enemies for a long time: Austria and England
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"He just declared himself as Holy Roman Emperor!" The Austrians glares menacingly at France.
France's Enemies for a long time: Austria and England
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Italy: we have no dog in this fight but if they fuck with our ships we will burn Paris to the ground
Right then looks like it's time to dust off the old' get the ottomans into the war by blowing up a ship and blaming the Spanish so we'll not technically allying with them but are to avoid a political storm' plan but replace Spanish with French.
Edit: I shall name it the rooster(French national animal) that poked the grey wolf(ottoman sacrifice/national animal) protocol.
Or perhaps just the rooster and grey wolf protocol would be better.
Edit: I shall name it the rooster(French national animal) that poked the grey wolf(ottoman sacrifice/national animal) protocol.
Or perhaps just the rooster and grey wolf protocol would be better.
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Drat. They got overconfident. Split the fleet, and then the greek elements were drinking over depression about the Ottomans beating the Greek rebels and got caught drunk and sleeping by the french. Hopefully they really next turn.
See, this is why we needed to take France action last turn. If we'd have rolled, we might have delayed things, or at least given additional bonuses to navy and army counter responses.
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Unfortunately, the Navy isn't skilled at intrigue, and any Ottoman ships aren't anywhere that it would be believable for them to find themselves in strike range of any french ones. Also, Suleiman isn't an idiot, and even if he fought the french, he'd use the chance to move his troops into Austria unopposed to seize the Capitol, as he isn't well positioned to fight the french without marching through Austria. This is just all around not something we can make work.
That's why we need to get suleimans help with this plan ,and he won't be marching though Austria if we make him march though our seas by claiming its faster, we just need to protect his ship and make sure they Don't do any funny business.
We can also claim it was a ottoman ship that got lost as to why it was near the french.
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I think you greatly overestimate the willingness of Suleiman to work with us and fight the french on our behalf when this religious schism is incredibly convenient for him and his imperial ambitions.
Its called good old bribery/ pointing out the french will come for him next,though I will admit we may have to give something important to him in return for this.
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Their actually more likely to come for us and the Spanish next, which he is smart enough to know. It's the him wanting something reasonable part that I doubt. Frankly this is just a bit overly optimistic on our odds of succeeding in coming into an accord with him for my tastes. We have allies who like us more, and have good reasons to commit to the fight that we can work with instead. This Suleiman longshot isn't a productive venture.
Wasn't I the proponent on the more funding for the Army on the off-chance the Navy did get bazooked?
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I'm arguing that we could have delayed this with a specific action next turn. I doubt the army's funding being increased is a thing which would have prevented this. The army doesn't lack for funds(nation wealth is 10), it lacks sufficient officers numbers to expand and lead effectively. We have taken steps to address that but things take time.
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The Ottomans, being enemies of Austria, find France to be an ally of convenience. Austria, being Italy's ally, and opposed to France, will likely end up opposed to the Ottomans again. And Luciano being personal friends with Severin would also set Suleiman personally against Luciano as well, for all the grief the Switzer has dealt him.
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Now there is a good point. We are personal friends with Severin. Let's offer him a lucrative contract to fight the french. He already put down one madman crowning himself pope, let's sick him on another.
France: Then Hand over the false pope for execution then, and let our armies burn down the false relic that is the Vatican you Heretic!
We are really badly positioned to stay out of this one, what with the jewel of Christendom being nestled deep within our territory.
Within our capital I might add.
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This is still just as aggravating as it was when the vote had just ended. I still say that florence would have been a better capitol.Within our capital I might add.
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Reminder that France helped the Ottomans when they invaded us the first time. If the Ottomans intervene, it will be to help France.
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The ottomans is not about to fuck around and find out twice in a decade…
Are they? They can't be that stupid?
And that's even before we get into the topic of. *ahem*
Religious differences given France just declared their leader as the new pope. Which makes coming to blows only a matter of time…
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Sure, but he doesn't actually need to ally with the french or not fight them later. He just needs to attack their enemies and take Holy Roman Empire land for himself. He is there ally by the virtue that he wants the land their enemies control, while not really being in a position to invade and hold their lands. He divides the attention of Catholic Europe further preventing a coordinated attack on France.
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Suliman: This is why I am watching the Italian experiment with great interest. Maybe I can steal power from my nobles and work with the other wealthy people in my empire.
Because I'm surrounded by idiots.
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And conveniently having his Blood Brother have more power over the Nobles to help Suleiman on their dream.
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Unfortunately, Ibrahim is a bit dead at the moment. Severin killed him.
well your navy suddenly gets their asses handed to them by french huguenots, that's probably a good time to give a shit.