A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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You have 3 tries Viserys and the first 2 don't count.
Pssstt! It's both
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If you guys can pull this off that would be the greatest thing in this quest.
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Paladins need to have extreme alignments, so it would be either:
- Paladin of Freedom (rampant CG and thus with all the self-sacrifice issues we had with Dany)
- Blackguard (CE nutcase)
- Paladin of Tyranny (a ruthless enforcer in spiky black armor that would look very squire-like next to Richard)
I think the superior choice is obvious.
Edit: Though I'm iffy if a Paladin can "fall" to his old alignment and just getting a new patron.
LG Paladin of the Old Gods? Every Hearttree in Planetos will run red with tears of joy.
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New quest goal. We are making this happen. The fucking Warrior is not stealing a PC from us.
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Isn't Garth a Paladin of Freedom?Paladins need to have extreme alignments, so it would be either:
- Paladin of Freedom (rampant CG and thus with all the self-sacrifice issues we had with Dany)
- Blackguard (CE nutcase)
- Paladin of Tyranny (a ruthless enforcer in spiky black armor that would look very squire-like next to Richard)
I think the superior choice is obvious.
He didn't seem that bad to me.
Plus, getting her to fall will almost assuredly involve breaking her love of chivalry, making her either disillusioned with helping people at best and an asshole at worst.
But, I guess that could be seen as a good thing to some
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I thought the term where interchangeable.
I'm for either LG or LE, but her new patron must be the Old Gods.
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Yeah, he's a Paladin of Freedom, but at the same time we never met the man and we never saw him badgering officials on how to run their government. He's great as a monster slayer, though.
The Old Gods are pure neutral in their amalgamated state and would be just plain confused by the notion of a paladin serving them. You would have a better chance making someone a paladin of Yss.
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Your typical Paladin of Tyranny does, as the name implies, usually create order at all costs.Isn't Garth a Paladin of Freedom?
He didn't seem that bad to me.
Plus, getting her to fall will almost assuredly involve breaking her love of chivalry, making her either disillusioned with helping people at best and an asshole at worst.
But, I guess that could be seen as a good thing to some
And that's fine. We can work perfectly with that.
And we could also work with a LG Paragon who is openly a former Seven worshiper.
As long as she doesn't go uncontrollable chaotic, she would be quite useful.
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It's probably an extended project, after all since the change in Diplo rules we need to erode her Religious Fanaticism.
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Snakadin? Sounds workable to me.
However, I think there are perfectly fine classes for post-fall Paladins that don't require new patrons, so yeah...
Maybe we should concentrate on looting her first before deciding her future.
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Better then a single ultra-high-DC-pass-it-or-never check.
I quite liked to slowly work on Stannis.
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Not quite.
Paladin of Slaughter is a base-class variant of the regular Paladin.
Blackguard is a Prestige Class anyone can enter who fullfills the requirements, but Fallen Paladins get extra-features based on the number of Paladin-levels they have.
Actually being a level 10+ Paladin turns a mediocre PrC much better than usually.
Snakadin? Sounds workable to me.
However, I think there are perfectly fine classes for post-fall Paladins that don't require new patrons, so yeah...
Maybe we should concentrate on looting her first before deciding her future.
When trying to make someone abandon their values it is generally best yo have an alternative set of values to offer.
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Killing Devils in the name of Profit instead of the Seven!
Okay, I guess capitalism hasn't spread far enough yet...
In any case, Brienne will probably be trouble in the future. But in the distant future, because right now she's just a baby paladin. The chances of her changing patrons away from the Gods she was raised to believe in... She'd have to be betrayed by them. Not very likely, and trying to engineer something will almost certainly explode in our faces.
And if Renly is on our side (you'll note she already has the beginning of a crush), then she shouldn't be a problem until the Seven manage to replace enough of their church hierarchy to call a proper crusade, which will take a while.
And if Renly is on our side (you'll note she already has the beginning of a crush), then she shouldn't be a problem until the Seven manage to replace enough of their church hierarchy to call a proper crusade, which will take a while.
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LG would be preferred, yeah.
Having less "hard man hard decisions" minions will make me feel better about giving them more autonomy, as I could trust them to do things without giving us more bad pr or pissing off people in their wake.
So, less Bronn and more Waymar pls.
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[X] Teleportation
They already know you can use magic to teleport, so it's not much of a stretch to believe that we can as well.
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I don't trust that thinking anymore.
I also thought Dany wouldn't be combat-relevant for a few more years...
[X] Teleportation
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