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- Germany
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- He/Him
That doesn't tell me WHICH spirits. Where are they coming from? Were they imprisoned here? Why is the Deva helping them? I got it from the altar scene that it is more or less fallen, but ... ???
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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I meant to mention that, pretty sure typos for Imperious Glare. Freezing Glance inexplicably never made it into the vote.
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
- Location
- Wordcats
It didn't. Channelling in agreement does not mind control make. The edit shows quite clearly that the armour spirit is working through Richard, but not without his consent. He's in agreement with it.
Let this play out. Messing with things at this point is a recipe for disaster.
Viserys does not know. He got a flash of and old sorcerer-priest in what he assumes were the years of the Century of Blood raging against his failing powers and the deva only to be reinvigorated in undeath that it may keep vigil over the town.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Yeah, but it's not worth fixing now, since they are both 6th level spells that require Will saves and the target wasn't any more resistant to one than the other.
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- Germany
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- He/Him
Or the last chance to avert one - it depends. On the understanding of what is happening.
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- Germany
I'm just seeing the writing on the wall and would like to at least have put up a token effort against it.
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- being near locations is my passion.
The freezing stare can be attempted each round, as a free action, on any one enemy (freely chosen each round), for cl rounds. It can be used on the same person each round even if they pass a save the previous round, and this is all for one casting of the spell
The differences between the two are very significant.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
[X] Azel
Some people can't help but look at a trainwreck in motion.
I'm directly opposite to that, and so untill I understand from the comments that the whole situation is resolved I'm not going to read chapters in fear of a deadly dose of salt appearing in my bloodstream.
Some people can't help but look at a trainwreck in motion.
I'm directly opposite to that, and so untill I understand from the comments that the whole situation is resolved I'm not going to read chapters in fear of a deadly dose of salt appearing in my bloodstream.
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- Germany
Yes. We could.
We could have simply left.
Not like @Goldfish and me didn't write entire essays about how this would be a disaster, but eh...
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- United States
And now we have a character test that none of us wanted.
And some people had the nerve to ask "how could the Deva possibly be a problem for us?"If someone dies here we'll have deserved it for walking right into the trap.
Expanded a little on the memory snippet above:
...an aged guardian standing alone leaning against an empty altar, raging against the weakness of his body, against the fading power in his veins, against the god who had deserted him... and left his people lost to the mercies of cruel fate... a spirit that clung in the dark and rose to haunt the streets on moonless nights... the faithful guardian become a jailer of the divine... yet still his people prospered all unknowing...and not it spied its chance to take and take and take all that had been yours... to keep them safe... always to keep them safe...
I can't really make it clearer than this because the spirit is far indeed from coherent.
...an aged guardian standing alone leaning against an empty altar, raging against the weakness of his body, against the fading power in his veins, against the god who had deserted him... and left his people lost to the mercies of cruel fate... a spirit that clung in the dark and rose to haunt the streets on moonless nights... the faithful guardian become a jailer of the divine... yet still his people prospered all unknowing...and not it spied its chance to take and take and take all that had been yours... to keep them safe... always to keep them safe...
I can't really make it clearer than this because the spirit is far indeed from coherent.
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- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You (also) were right.
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Simply means I have to omit the murderhoboing updates.
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- United States
Wait a minute. @Azel @DragonParadox absolutely nothing should be able to take over Ser Richard. They'd have to get through both his Greater Enduring Amulet of PfE and his freaking Mindblank.
dpara
slightly confused ascendant
That's because Ser Richard and the spirit are in agreement about what to do.
I'm gonna trust Ser Richard on this.
- Location
- The World
This doesn't read like a character test, unless "strong character" is supposed to mean "you're only worthy if you submit to us and surrender to our desire for inflicting dramatics upon the world." Why else would a so-called character test under a Deva's judging gaze be reliant on possession and mind-control?
Because that's what this is, no matter how you paint it. I have serious reservations about the idea that Sir Richard would agree to this "cooperation," especially when it's not even the armor's will being done here, but whoever is piggybacking it. You're saying that Sir Richard had time to realize his armor got (half?)taken-over, communicate with it, communicate with whatever else is there, reach a consensus and then intervene the way he did all in the space of one round? I can accept that he's so invested in Visery's wellbeing that he wouldn't balk at using whatever was available to him, but he could and would, I think, have done all this without any armor mindmelding at all. Hell, he would have recoiled from the idea of anything that could affect his mind in such a tense situation.
To say nothing of the egregiousness of this latest return of the Worf effect on Viserys.
I empathize with everyone who feels that there is never any feeling of accomplishment or progress in this quest anymore. I imagine it doesn't help that all the gear the thread sacrificed days of time, wealth and planning for seems to so conveniently be rendered worthless whenever it fits the latest plot.
All the contrived coincidences are only piling up, and my suspension of disbelief is well and truly broken now.
I guess I'll now settle down into lurking again.
Because that's what this is, no matter how you paint it. I have serious reservations about the idea that Sir Richard would agree to this "cooperation," especially when it's not even the armor's will being done here, but whoever is piggybacking it. You're saying that Sir Richard had time to realize his armor got (half?)taken-over, communicate with it, communicate with whatever else is there, reach a consensus and then intervene the way he did all in the space of one round? I can accept that he's so invested in Visery's wellbeing that he wouldn't balk at using whatever was available to him, but he could and would, I think, have done all this without any armor mindmelding at all. Hell, he would have recoiled from the idea of anything that could affect his mind in such a tense situation.
To say nothing of the egregiousness of this latest return of the Worf effect on Viserys.
I empathize with everyone who feels that there is never any feeling of accomplishment or progress in this quest anymore. I imagine it doesn't help that all the gear the thread sacrificed days of time, wealth and planning for seems to so conveniently be rendered worthless whenever it fits the latest plot.
All the contrived coincidences are only piling up, and my suspension of disbelief is well and truly broken now.
I guess I'll now settle down into lurking again.
Damn it, I messed this up again.
Full re-write incoming.
Full re-write incoming.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
I don't think that is necessary at all, DP. Just because we don't like the way something plays out, so long as there isn't a mistake made due to mechanics being misunderstood or a vote being misconstrued, doesn't mean you have to scrap a chapter. Retcons or rewrites should only be done as a last resort.
Please just don't kill anyone in the next update? Or have them possessed?
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- being near locations is my passion.
Huh?
Hmm, not all of us are salty about this Deva, or the trap-like circumstances of it's bindings (trap, but one that arose naturally, I suppose). Am wary, and I am, as always, assuming this Celestial is a Devil pretending, but other than that, I'm enjoying this plotline. And we're only one day in!
The thread recently, not so fun
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
I don't think that will happen. I believe the armor's spirit is making one last effort against whatever is in this chamber, and that it's going to burn itself out completely in the process, leaving the armor non-possessed and at full power.
/fingers crossed
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- United States
I admire that level of optimism. Here's to hoping you're right.