Honestly I doubt it too but I have to fight for the cool airship it's our one chance to get something that cool. We have other opportunities to get most of the things in pickles plan (I don't think there is one where we are actively locked out, it just would take effort) and we can theoretically ask for the armor for major campaigns (like say, liberating some nexuses?) but a intra college magical airship is in the realm of "now or never!"
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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SaltyWaffles
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The vote sitting this close indefinitely (but for a limited time; it's just not known when the end will come) and see-sawing back and forth is going to be rather anxiety-inducing.
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We've seen 94 new voters in a week, going from 117-111-104 to 165-163-163 so I'd say it's clearly not just people editing approval votes—there's new interest being expressed in all the options.
Its claws were drawing Deathfang's blood on his neck, and possibly on their way to creating a serious wound.
Hm... been a while since I last took part.
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
-[X] A flying warship, suited for both exploration and warfare
-[X] Comfortable for small groups of people to live in for extended periods of time, and capable in an emergency of transporting a medium-sized groups of elite forces from one place to another (e.g. Empire Knights, Dwarf Ironbreakers, Eonir Ghost Striders, KAU scribes)
-[X] Wizardy aesthetic - dragon figurehead on the prow, living tree serving as central mast, bottom possibly wreathed in fog, etc.
-[X] Has magical weaponry and/or defenses (e.g. Dragon figurehead on the prow might fill enemy forces with the fear of death, ballistas on the sides might shoot out fireballs, a Flock of Doom might emerge from a literal crow's nest, etc)
-[X] Possibly needs to be crewed by Perpetuals
-[X] Possibly flat-bottomed to allow for landing on firm ground, if that makes sense vibes-wise
[X] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
-[X] A flying warship, suited for both exploration and warfare
-[X] Comfortable for small groups of people to live in for extended periods of time, and capable in an emergency of transporting a medium-sized groups of elite forces from one place to another (e.g. Empire Knights, Dwarf Ironbreakers, Eonir Ghost Striders, KAU scribes)
-[X] Wizardy aesthetic - dragon figurehead on the prow, living tree serving as central mast, bottom possibly wreathed in fog, etc.
-[X] Has magical weaponry and/or defenses (e.g. Dragon figurehead on the prow might fill enemy forces with the fear of death, ballistas on the sides might shoot out fireballs, a Flock of Doom might emerge from a literal crow's nest, etc)
-[X] Possibly needs to be crewed by Perpetuals
-[X] Possibly flat-bottomed to allow for landing on firm ground, if that makes sense vibes-wise
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Exactly this. It's important to remember that Mathilde does not only act on our explicit votes or instruction. She often decides to do things on her own because her spells, her skills, her equipment, and her experience enable her to do so. Mathilde will try to sword the ancient vampire, or the greater daemon, or the entire black college, or whatever else, even when we might want her not to. A major part of her established character is that she's a swordwoman eager to hit her enemies with her sword. (Something we've put tons of AP and resources into, and that has paid off brilliantly.) And she doesn't need anyone to drive her closer, since she can and will teleport herself into grave, mortal danger.
I don't know where this persistent belief comes from that Mathilde is a cautious assassin who only gets into fights reluctantly. She's not. Whether we want her to or not, she has and will continue to get herself into fights with masses of enemies and powerful champions both, even when doing so is not strictly necessary. She's a lot less Comssar Cain, forced into fighting with great reluctance, and much more Commissar-Waving-A-Sword-Atop-A-Tank. (And given how that's often worked out for her, she's not wrong to do so, either.)
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pucflek
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I sadly cannot give a post a like, insightful and funny rating all at once, so funny will have to do.
Adrian XXIV
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Reason why we should vote on Skyship:
Unique opportunity to reenact "Fly me closer, I want to hit them with my sword" meme
Also sky captain Mathilde has a certain ring to it. And if we do want to be more dwarvish as we won't to do there's already another established title!
"SKYTHANE MATHILDE WEBER"
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I don't think that's a valuable dichotomy. It really depends on what narrative matters to you, I guess. To me it lost a great deal of sentiment when I found out We-Silk robes wouldn't be better than any other robes, because they don't stack with Aethyric Armor. I suppose it would be as good as chainmail if we couldn't cast lesser magics for some reason, but mostly we would be wearing it for the bragging rights.
There wasn't years of buildup for new We-Silk robes, the years of buildup was for the silk trade opportunities, which is imo still the better representation of strength and value from diverse and courageous friendships.
Meanwhile I and a few others have been harping on a lot about the narrative and aesthetic value of the armor over the mechanical. We care about it for what it means for Mathilde the Knight, Mathilde the discoverer of power through knowledge, Mathilde the legendary magister, who taught her ducklings that the colleges should be thought of as one whole and not eight pieces.
Seeing those thoughts reduced to auto picking mechanical advantage over narrative satisfaction doesn't feel great (though of course we're still friends no matter what.)
I will say that if we were to enchant new robes I wouldn't actually put aetheric armor on it as an enchantment. Windherding comes to mind and with that in mind the resilience of we-silk suddenly is important again.
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It doesn't make much of a difference, I think? Whether we enchant it to always be on or just cast Aethyric Armour in every battle, the We-Silk is still no better than regular robes.
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Indeed, I had not though of it, but across the cultures we have seen there are many such titles for the captain of a capable ship, and thanks to having the waystone project to show off through, Mathilde may yet get all of them.
Perhaps, even... Pirate? Dear reader, I bid you to revisit the entirety of this quoted passage:
"But if you happen to be unbound to yours, perhaps you might consider my counter-offer," you shout from atop the Prismatic Wanderer. Every ship needs a crew, after all.
Yes this is a shitpost but if we can actually pick up some folks experienced with the high seas from him on the side of hiring his fleet for a spot of privateering, I might well consider it for real, lmao.
Showing off our ship to them will be very, very funny either way.
SaltyWaffles
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Exactly. This is a friendly reminder that, without a vote choice, Mathilde decided to track a necrarch vampire to his castle inside of his fortified town, started assassinating every one of his students in town and in the castle, snuck into the castle where said vampire was located, started killing everyone, and then tried to sneak up on and kill the vampire himself, all without backup or special preparation.
And when the assassination failed, she did not attempt to escape, but stood and dueled a vampire in his lair by herself. Where she came frighteniningly close to dying. What saved her life? A runic gromril belt that hard-counters a spell targeting Mathilde and literally burns knowledge of the spell from the target's brain...as well as having the Seed of Regrowth to immediately heal from the otherwise fatal wounds. In other words, being geared with some of the best stuff around literally saved Mathilde's life. The Armor of Von Tarnus is much like that: an epic piece of gear that dramatically improves Mathilde's toughness and survivability in combat.
We already have plans to start engaging in a forest war or two for a waystone nexus (or more) where one of the previewed tactics is personally poking at greenskins until they form up into an army and come charging at whatever's poking them, while we hopefully get well out of the way in time.
But we may not even need to go that far, because for all we know the Empire itself is going to be attacked by a big Waaagh within a few years. Or a big beastherd is going to start rampaging and we'll sieze the opportunity to make friends and favors with high-up people in various provinces. Or Kislev will suffer from a Norscan incursion and we'll want to go help them out.
Being a melee juggernaut that can teleport is really useful, and opportunities to offer your services to powerful people who could use your help opens up many doors.
Ach, apologies - evidently my hyperbole didn't quite come through as hyperbole! While the We-silk robes
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Boarding fozriks flying fastness means we actually did piracy, so that's a career goal at least!
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Ehhh. It IS better when the spell runs out though, is the thing. Sometimes people get to surprise attack us instead, that's half the reason we got Knightbringer.
That said, I'm personally in camp "spider silk + Karak Vlag-sourced Ithilmar armor eventually upgraded with Thorek-spelunking sourced runes". One way or another, we'll be looking to upgrade our passive defenses.
I just happen to like the airship more, particularly as it seems plausible to be a more regular feature update to update than the armor, flying base of operations that it is.
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... I don't think vlag has any way to get ilthimar? Or am I missing something?
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Okay, sorry, I'm seeing a lot of arguments about Von Tarnus' Armor coming from different sides, and some of them seem to be conflicting with eachother, so can I just ask: For the people arguing most strongly for the armor, what is the Von Tarnus armor for you? Is it a tool to be able to change Mathilde's style of fighting, or is it enhancing a layer in Mathilde's survival onion?
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This has been discussed with Boney - they have a bunch of scraps, and we could use our boon to get all of them.
Considering Vlag boon choices have otherwise suffered from "They need every bit of their effort spent on just recovering" and the ithilmar is material that they AREN'T actually using for anything, it seems like a good option to me.
Not an armor voter (right now, but was briefly), but defensive equipment this strong is inherently both. A more reliable defensive onion permits taking more risks. If you can reliably survive the clapback of a genuine threat, your response to a potential bluff can be to call it without as much worry.
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Teleport Me Closer
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Boney confirmed that Vlag has trophies from the War of the Ancients kicking around and we could cash in our Transcendent Boon for a suit of ithilmar.
As one of the main partisans for the armor, here was my argument for it:
I like the notion of getting the Best Thing Possible so we don't have to think about that slot ever again, but mostly I'm in for the narrative of "Mathilde is entrusted with a significant Collegiate treasure of the past in exchange for enabling the marvels of the future."
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But Derpmind was just arguing that this isn't the case, and that Mathilde would be taking these risks with or without Von Tarnus' Armor, so evidently this isn't a universal opinion.