But it will start helping out per turn through put right away.
Stealth, as far as I know, is always a multiplier of the total hull cost. But consider: a stealthy scoutship needs very good sensors... and the best sensors don't fit into a Destroyer without cramming.
That makes some sense... though, as others have said, they stack, and Empathy at Range is much, much less needed, for now.
The boarders might not have had the grenades because they didn't expect resistance this fierce. They had a sorcerer, a dozen Astartes, a demon ally...
As I said above—getting superb sensors in small hulls is impossible without cramming.
It would take ages to get it down from 450 RP. And that's if the discounts so far triple, too, and we don't get (250x3) - 100 = 650 RP. Consider that Demonology is one of those expensive, quest-altering techs, discussed below, and we can get it cheap before we have to face a demon because Cia accidentally summoned it or some cultist did it on purpose.
I can't help but feel a bit burnt, with my posting the cheap tech list every turn... point taken! I was going to advocate for Taste of Chaos this round anyways.
To your earlier point we have been very reactive with our research and will likely always have pressing issues to deal with.
See above. Demonology is an expensive tech for cheap—the most expensive we've found yet. It stands to have huge benefits.
My issue there is we need an unknown number of researches, plus maybe needing to design/build things... I like AI coding, but we need Taste first. And LSVM/Advanced Materials stand to discount it, so they should at least be a consideration. Especially since I want these necrons out of the cabinet ASAP.
In general when it comes to research we should probably star to making plans as the research being answer for questions.
I don't think they held anything back - this was their hail mary, and the biggest guy in spikes was probably the leader of the entire warband. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where they wouldn't have taken whatever they thought the most effective loadout was from whatever material they had on hand, with the ship going up in secondary explosions there was nothing left to save the good stuff for.
Hm. Does that include Immaterium Understanding, @Neablis? There's been a bit of a back and forth between me and Angle about whether or not it's better to do IU before or after the three necessary technologies for warp comms, and for most of those this would peg the discount from IU at below 50%.
This seems a little blasé for describing a research line that just saved Vita from being directly exposed to chaos.
Honestly I think that's just overprep. Let's just do Immaterium Understandings and maybe Faith then Daemonology. No more, I don't want to put it off any longer.
I mean, they don't have to be diviners. Bongo can just reach out of his cage and talk to them, for a start.
But there's probably diviners. Even if they were aboard that ship, that teleportarium could have sent them off of it more easily than it sent those chaos marines on board ours. And where else but Klyssar would sorcerers that weren't stationed on the ship be? It's their most secure holding left, the place where there's a large population that's still small enough for them to still completely dominate, rule, and sacrifice. Cushy.
It's already going to be the trickiest place to tackle. Why take the risk? We can't surprise them if they can just listen to bongo say we're about to attack, or divine it directly themselves.
We already have anti-boarding measures on our ship. And, as I argued earlier, we don't need melee infantry if we have good formations and good ranged weapons we can make en masse. Especially if, with Drugs? Drugs., we can get ranged less-lethal weapons.
I, personally, think Faith, Encryption, Taste of Chaos, and Demonology are the more immediate ones. We can hold CR, CPS, ASM until after Int Coding.
I would reverse that order. Understandings after the foundational techs. But I can see your point.
And therein lies the issue? What do we do against opponents when ranged weapons are just not viable, or even outright useless?
