Because we can't kill it in a way that sticks and releasing it would both lose us a research subject and set it free into the immaterium.Why are people so hard on for keeping the Demon? At this point just throw the fucker, its proving way too much of an issue once more.
[X] Denva Secundus
I think people want the encryption first because they're worried Bongo (who can scry us) might mess that research up.Daemonology should secure Bongo's scrying and telepathy by itself, because once bound Bongo will be compelled to obey us. Obvious hazards abound, and we should obtain psychic encryption soonish for the anti-scry protections in general, but with a good success on daemonology the matter will likely be settled.
So we bind it or find a way to destroy it. Tossing the scrapcode generator into the sun or detroying it in research doesn't kill Bongo. Not in a way that sticks.If it was just that I wouldn't care, but its clearly talking to enemy forces and seems to have been. Well that is a whole other matter, because research we have gotten out of it has been useful. But we are past the point of needing it to keep going.
Ten times yes. Plus, given all the cultists now in the system, we may need knowledge of banishment soon.Bongo could have told them everything it learned, full sensory experience, we do not know what daemon to daemon bandwidth looks like. That said the point about it still being a lot safer to learn demonology with him than without him stands and keeping daemons out and maybe summoning saints with a bit of luck just became more important because of that.
Cramming also makes combat ships better—a smaller chassis is faster. It also helps with placing buildings in our capital ship—something with which we've had a very hard time lately.It's very expensive in opportunity costs. That's the price. Get cramming but don't get warp comms is a tradeoff I don't want to make.
It's a hope that it will stop bongo from taking to others, but we didn't know he could do that and don't actually know what will stop him. This is a gamble.
If the whole point of demonology is to safely ditch bongo then we'll have spent an action and a half on ease of mind without further benefits.
Sure, but he was communicating freely with chaos forces in this system. Anthing you are worried about it sharing it already has, anything he didn't share he he probably would not share in the warp either.
I don't think it's a big enough risk to matter.
Ok...? And you want this instead of sensors that would identify chaos cultists? Because those are in direct condition with eachother for RP.
We've got cog filters. We've got psychic shields. We've got sensors that can spot rituals.
We don't need better options against chaos, we've spent a lot of time and effort building our current options. We need more ability to fight.
I don't see any reason to think it would have stopped it talking. Psychic encryption is to prevent others from scrying on us or predicting our actions; on the face of it that's not going to stop demons taking through the warp except by accident.
We've got cog-filters and nested psychic shields. And plasma weaponry. Just because I don't want to handle them the way you want to handle them doesn't mean i want to avoid them.
We spent a ton on the stuff we've already got. Now can we try to be as protected against more common threats, like boarding?
I don't want to research the subject. I don't want to summon demons safely; I don't want to summon demons at all. The subject can be addressed by developing complex wards and intricate rituals, or we can just throw melta charges at it and not get tied up believing we have to play by their rules.
No.
Nah. It's a free action to cock him in the sun, for no more risk than we are already at with the dead chaos Marine.
Or destructive analysis, if you want to squeeze that last bit out.
No, it isn't. It means that our warp research goes among non-demonic paths. Like immaterium understanding, or psytech, or warp comms. Demons are a distraction from those, not a support.
Too late. Bongo talked to the chaos marines and the chaos marines died. The horse has already left, no point in building elaborate locks for the barn door now.
The point of demomology is partly to kill or bind Bongo safely, yes. Also knowledge on how to banish, hurt, and suppress other demons.
We don't know how much Bongo shared, we don't know how far that information got, and we don't know how good the fidelity of the transmission was. What we do know is it can still watch and transmit. Encryption would keep it from learning anything new about us, make it harder for it to attack, and prevent it from messing up Demonology research.
We do want other things—rebuilding and upgrading our bots, getting better at sniffing out cults, navibean research—and needing to prioritise means Demonology might have to wait a turn or two. But we'll need to do it. Because there is no credible alternative. Releasing Bongo into the Immaterium and not arming ourselves with the means to fight it and other demons whe there is a demon world in the sector is not a good idea.
Also: demons and saints live in the warp. Studying a place involves studying its ecosystem. Those researches synergise.