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Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Is no one going to comment about the Death 3 image? For reference it was a field of tombstones for Death 2. Also Choir Info post will be updated later today.
[X] Plan: 5 minutes to dawn of war
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Amratur Subsector)
-[X] [General] Colonize (Sub-Sector)
--[X] Chery (2/9 Systems)
--[X] Gulf's Edge (9/14 Systems) [Mechadentride AP]
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] Free Neutrality Agreement
---[X] Send lendlease to iconoclasts fighting Nurgle in the form of old equipment that you will be replacing with the new research.
-[X] [General] Research:
--[X] New Generation Ground Vehicles (0/1)
--[X] Experimental Infantry-Grade Weapons and Armor Development II (0/1)
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-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Amratur Subsector)
-[X] [General] Colonize (Sub-Sector)
--[X] Chery (2/9 Systems)
--[X] Gulf's Edge (9/14 Systems) [Mechadentride AP]
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] Free Neutrality Agreement
---[X] Send lendlease to iconoclasts fighting Nurgle in the form of old equipment that you will be replacing with the new research.
-[X] [General] Research:
--[X] New Generation Ground Vehicles (0/1)
--[X] Experimental Infantry-Grade Weapons and Armor Development II (0/1)
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Oh, right, the Temple Ship.
[] [Temple Ship] The Last Word
-[] Length - 7.400 Meters
-[] Width - 1.250 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 3 Gravities (-1 DP)
-[] Armor - Medium Fortress Armor (-2 DP)
-[] Shields - Two Aegides (-1 DP)
-[] Weapons - Divine Damnation/2x Long-Range Ateviran Sightlens (-60 DP)
-[] Equipment - Sigil Lenses (-5 DP)
Nothing fancy here, it's just a delivery mechanism for anti-Daemon World Exterminatus with some limited self-defense capability in the form of the Ateviran Sightlens guns and Sigil Lenses. Nothing short of Divine Intervention is likely to accomplish much of note against a world out of phase with the cosmos, and so it brings that to the table.
[] [Temple Ship] The Last Word
-[] Length - 7.400 Meters
-[] Width - 1.250 Meters
-[] Acceleration - 3 Gravities (-1 DP)
-[] Armor - Medium Fortress Armor (-2 DP)
-[] Shields - Two Aegides (-1 DP)
-[] Weapons - Divine Damnation/2x Long-Range Ateviran Sightlens (-60 DP)
-[] Equipment - Sigil Lenses (-5 DP)
Nothing fancy here, it's just a delivery mechanism for anti-Daemon World Exterminatus with some limited self-defense capability in the form of the Ateviran Sightlens guns and Sigil Lenses. Nothing short of Divine Intervention is likely to accomplish much of note against a world out of phase with the cosmos, and so it brings that to the table.
[X] Plan: Ready to Rock and Roll
-[X] [Free] Begin preparations to Declare an Emergency for the upcoming wars against the Chaos Cults.
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Unfallen Subsector)
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (1st Grand Armada, SBG Gryphon, SBG Gorgon) x2
-[X] [Military] Construct God-Engines (10x Modeste Imensus) x2 (Heartbeat of Industry)
-[X] [Chapter] Lament's Legion (0/1)
-[X] [Free] Begin preparations to Declare an Emergency for the upcoming wars against the Chaos Cults.
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Unfallen Subsector)
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (1st Grand Armada, SBG Gryphon, SBG Gorgon) x2
-[X] [Military] Construct God-Engines (10x Modeste Imensus) x2 (Heartbeat of Industry)
-[X] [Chapter] Lament's Legion (0/1)
[X] Plan: We Build a Fleet to Strike a Blow Against Chaos
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Amratur Subsector)
-[X] [Free] Choir Assignments:
--[X] Changes: Remove 40 choirs from Glint of Genius and 60 choirs from Dutiful Spirits and put them into Placebo, offered to Van Zandt.
--[X] New choirs: In order: New systems, new fleets, Steam Valves until 250, then all spare into Dutiful Spirits.
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] Free Neutrality Agreement
---[X] As a gesture of goodwill, lend 100 Choirs aboard Sector Battle Group Sphinx to sing the Placebo Song in a sub-sector of the Duchy's choosing. Tell them exactly what it does first, and don't push if they don't accept. But also don't let them get their grubby paws on our psykers, that's why we're sending an SBG. Their orders are to flee from fighting. They're not supposed to assist the Duchy's war effort, just insulate them against warp-plague shenanigans.
--[X] Half an action into Duel of the Fates (Mechadendrite bonus)
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (Flag Armada Nova) x2 - 10 choir cost
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction x2 (Agenda Bonus + Heartbeat of Industry, +600 point bonus = 2600 points = 13 fleets)
--[X] 9x SBGs (Hydralisk, Necrolisk, Kraken, Gorgon, Gryphon, Wyvern, Dragon, Cyclops, Kraken) - 32 Choirs
--[X] 1x LRAD (Zeta) - 5 choirs
--[X] 3x Logistics Fleets (Mermaid, Cherub, Nymph) - 6 choirs
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes - (second agenda bonus)
--[X] [Battleship] Hercules-class Battleship
--[X] [Temple Ship] The Last Word
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Amratur Subsector)
-[X] [Free] Choir Assignments:
--[X] Changes: Remove 40 choirs from Glint of Genius and 60 choirs from Dutiful Spirits and put them into Placebo, offered to Van Zandt.
--[X] New choirs: In order: New systems, new fleets, Steam Valves until 250, then all spare into Dutiful Spirits.
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication
--[X] Free Neutrality Agreement
---[X] As a gesture of goodwill, lend 100 Choirs aboard Sector Battle Group Sphinx to sing the Placebo Song in a sub-sector of the Duchy's choosing. Tell them exactly what it does first, and don't push if they don't accept. But also don't let them get their grubby paws on our psykers, that's why we're sending an SBG. Their orders are to flee from fighting. They're not supposed to assist the Duchy's war effort, just insulate them against warp-plague shenanigans.
--[X] Half an action into Duel of the Fates (Mechadendrite bonus)
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (Flag Armada Nova) x2 - 10 choir cost
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction x2 (Agenda Bonus + Heartbeat of Industry, +600 point bonus = 2600 points = 13 fleets)
--[X] 9x SBGs (Hydralisk, Necrolisk, Kraken, Gorgon, Gryphon, Wyvern, Dragon, Cyclops, Kraken) - 32 Choirs
--[X] 1x LRAD (Zeta) - 5 choirs
--[X] 3x Logistics Fleets (Mermaid, Cherub, Nymph) - 6 choirs
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes - (second agenda bonus)
--[X] [Battleship] Hercules-class Battleship
--[X] [Temple Ship] The Last Word
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@Alectai, Sorry to bother you about this but could you give me a list of the new ship classes we have made (plus the ones that we'll make this turn) with the amount of choirs that they each utilize? I'm going to need to redo parts of the Choir Info post to accommodate the multi-Choir ships, increased fleet sizes/reorganization and the potential new psytech infrastructure. @HeroCooky, found a mistake, we should have gotten a free ship of each new class we designed added to the Overflow SBG.
Edit: The Divine Spark Temple Ship is also missing from the fleet's section
Edit: The Divine Spark Temple Ship is also missing from the fleet's section
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
The big one is the Herc, which uses 3. (Vinealloy, Symphosium, and Ears)
Fun fact about fleetbuilding! With my 4-action turn we're building
6 battleships
58 grand cruisers
58 heavy cruisers
253 light cruisers
92 frigates
36 destroyers
54 Heavy freighters
Total of 508 ships.
That's a hell of a fleet. The Duelists are going to know they've been kissed.
Technically the Aquarius-Primus Fleet Tender has a Sanctum of the Steam that requires a choir, but that ship also has Hymns of the Machines, so one choir can do both things because it doesn't need both equipment at the same time.
I think the Hercules is going to need like 3 though, one for the Ears of Hare Bnuy, one for the Symphonia Arcanum Arma, and a third for Twisted Kniotted Vinealloy. Jesus. I didn't realize that ship had all of those. Those macro-cannons are going to be able to oneshot a destroyer from the next planet over.
6 battleships
58 grand cruisers
58 heavy cruisers
253 light cruisers
92 frigates
36 destroyers
54 Heavy freighters
Total of 508 ships.
That's a hell of a fleet. The Duelists are going to know they've been kissed.
That info is contained in the Void Ship Construction and Design, though not explicitly. Scanning through it looks like the only ship we have that takes extra choirs is the Cancer-Class Assault Cruiser, for the Fangs of Dew.
Technically the Aquarius-Primus Fleet Tender has a Sanctum of the Steam that requires a choir, but that ship also has Hymns of the Machines, so one choir can do both things because it doesn't need both equipment at the same time.
I think the Hercules is going to need like 3 though, one for the Ears of Hare Bnuy, one for the Symphonia Arcanum Arma, and a third for Twisted Kniotted Vinealloy. Jesus. I didn't realize that ship had all of those. Those macro-cannons are going to be able to oneshot a destroyer from the next planet over.
That's a hell of a fleet by our standards but the Shipwrights Grove has 1500~ warships the last we had a number (probably closer to 2000 by now given the multiple subsectors they've taken over since the time the dossier was made).
We need a hell of lot more if we want to fight a multi-front war against the Chaos cults.
The Slaanesh cult likely outnumber both the Mashan and the Shipwrights combined- otherwise they wouldn't be the massive threat the prophecy stated.
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[X] Plan: 5 minutes to dawn of war
Hey, just out of curiosity on the sector maps I've noticed that despite the big tech rollouts that we're having most of our neighbors are still listed as having significantly stronger fleets than the Glimmering Federation. Is that simply due to a number of factors like experience fighting, number of ships, and better society traits for combat, or is it more due to the fact that most of it is/will remain to be out of date because it's a pain to update now that every other turn there seems to be some kind of tech or research upgrade and rollout? Especially now that the quest has gotten special military turn options.
Hey, just out of curiosity on the sector maps I've noticed that despite the big tech rollouts that we're having most of our neighbors are still listed as having significantly stronger fleets than the Glimmering Federation. Is that simply due to a number of factors like experience fighting, number of ships, and better society traits for combat, or is it more due to the fact that most of it is/will remain to be out of date because it's a pain to update now that every other turn there seems to be some kind of tech or research upgrade and rollout? Especially now that the quest has gotten special military turn options.
[X] Plan: We Build a Fleet to Strike a Blow Against Chaos
I like reading through the discussions. Though I did give up trying to read everything after around 500 pages.
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Hey! You caught up. Congrats.
Yeah, but we're much top-heavier. I think they have 1 total battleship and only a dozen or so Grand Cruisers. We're gonna have 6 and 60 respectively, not to mention 300 cruisers in that list.
Also, they're huge, like 3x our side. And we'll match their fleet in 3 turns. They've been building that fleet for centuries and we'll beat it in forty years.
Then there's the technology. They're working on mildly upgraded Imperium Tech. We've got necron & psytech that is... strong.
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HAH, yah that checks out. Given how 6969 reacted to turning an eternal 20 something year old body and how that went I don't doubt given her past it confuses her and stresses her to be viewed as a Living Saint now, add in that she is effectively immortal and won't die unless to in combat, she made it work and got out of the funk of outliving everyone she knew and loved. Now though? given she is a living Saint and the VARIOUS records of her past of being violent and sexually frustrated to the point she had separate accounts of harassment and assault claims, AND had plenty of brawls, drunken periods, indulgences in vices from gambling to wrath, lust to greed, in her long life along with lacking the Virtues the Orthodoxy....... and all that was just aired live for all the Federation to see. 6969 could count of outliving memories of her youth and being under the radar to avoid too many looking into her early past and it being locked under not knowing where to look and her being a niche interest.
And then we made her a saint, had debates over her faults and showing her dirty laundry and passed so now Everyone in the Federation knows AND they will remember due to some teaching or just general thing that is told when asked about the literally living saint who is a reminder of imperfections and all can move past such a past. She's dying of embarrassment and doesn't want see the actual devotion she is getting and feeling imposter syndrome.. or just THAT Embarrassed. She did want to leave behind a history of Diligent Service and Honorable Conduct and be someone all pilots look up to an resolve themselves due to it.
Yah this is way out of her expectations and didn't handle her reputation and projected image crumbling as her past was brought up to the Noosphere front page well. And that has to be the BIGGEST change and feeling weird seeing the crew of the ship you serve on and likely known for a long time suddenly making shrines to you and praying. Thanks to Brother Fren for getting her out of the room and her funk. Love the Comedic stuff here.
And 6969 was dying the entire time she was present for all of that wasn't she? Poor Thule.
andddd she has merch, both in pop culture and the church there. and a LOT of people will be using it, wearing it, showing it off... Oh no, its brought up Every Graduation!?
Yah as it is does, when its new its hot popular thing and everyone is a part of it. One Last stage fright considering the Sheer crowd here and finally processing it with saying the word that makes it real and .... Oh its hit now hasn't it? the point where you FEEL it take place and have the weight now? 6969 has grown into it and now fully adapted to the role.
Fair enough it IS a big change and we need to account for Grand Cruisers and Battleships when Battleships can solo SBG's. Ohhh boy that ain't good, we did warn them the Titan Symphosium was going to aim for them but I don't think those two have their own Battleships in enough numbers to counter them nor the Titan equivalents to counter theirs. We gave them a very long heads up so they will be prepared and geared towards it, they are not going to be rolled up but I wonder how long they can hold as we know the Shipwright's grove only has one battleship so far they have constructed and it might have to face down 6v1 odd. they can buy time but we will need to reinforce them. and we can trust them to hold off them, we will need to do the diplomacy with the Dutchy so they can reassign forces against the the Nurgle Sect and we can focus down on the Khrone cult and then flank the Nurgle sect. We have a game plan, just need to check how things pan out.
Oh that isn't bad at a- +25 points per length category above 20km. damn it, 200 point per Battleship. that is a hefty cost to it. Heavy freighters aren't bad and Heavy and Grand Cruisers are very economic for the heavier elements that don't need the battle ship. I would try to include 2-4 Grand Cruiser for guarding the Carriers unless we include another Battleship. Still I'll leave it to planners to factor in how much and where they are built.
Ah yes the eternal jokes. poor Vulture Droids.I had to.
oh that's a lot to play around with, and we can make some fun fleets with that.
HAH, that would have been great but that was only the Vanguard, only way we could have done that was have Void Industry XVI done before the whole Warp Storm coming and made a design ready to produce. we could have made around.... maybe 5-6 Battleships in time for that? and it would be a very terrifying surprise. We can still do this as is with this designs, just need an expedition.
Yahhhhh looking at it I do think we do need to focus more on spending for the 1 DP weaponry and maybe mixing and matching some stuff, compared to the Black Cat Battleship? we are focusing a lot on the equipment as oppose to the weapons both the battleship class weapons and the 1 DP weapons. So I would say we should include larger Lances and Plasma Macro Cannons or even torpedo's in our design since we want them be able to siege down enemy battleships and rip them apart.
Ah so the the whole thing of it has 960 Active strikecraft but has replacements for more strikecraft in storage to be assembled and replacement pilots on stand by to replace that either twice or thrice over. meaning it has endurance to it and there are still more strikecraft just waiting to be put together to go into the fight.
Same, these are way too specialized and should be a mix plan to include two or three of the ships instead of expecting one to supply the whole fleet. even the support ships should include some other stuff for faith and the like.
Technically we have Necron *inspired* tech, not actual Necron tech. Still a huge leg up compared to Imperial tech but Necrons are on a whole'nother level.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if the Shipwrights have been cooking their own tech tree just like the Duchy.
They did have that ludicrous gatling heavy lance the first time we saw their ships iirc.
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[X] Plan: We Build a Fleet to Strike a Blow Against Chaos
Every single one of our ships has shrines on it - including the support ships. They're not intended to be anywhere near the fighting. Basically they serve as a mobile "home port" for the fleet to return to and take some time between battles to recover from. They're not supposed to be exposed to corruption and if they are then the resources of the entire fleet are there to help them deal with it.
I don't quite understand this plan. Is the goal to go after the Slaanesh cult immediately? I thought the Gore-sworn Duelists were the bigger concern.
We also already have titans optimized to kill titans, and they're bigger that the titans that are being built here. If we want more we should put more actions into it to get something bigger.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I mean, it's possible that their fancy Titan is actually a Deus Machina and thus we're fucked anyway unless we have one of our own.
But I can't think of a cool design that would be sufficient for it T_T Even getting the Valiant was kind of hard, and while I've seen some awesome Titan reference images here and there, we're not allowed to use reference images, has to be bespoke.
But I can't think of a cool design that would be sufficient for it T_T Even getting the Valiant was kind of hard, and while I've seen some awesome Titan reference images here and there, we're not allowed to use reference images, has to be bespoke.
I mean, Titans are Titans, they're useful no matter how big they are.