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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.
[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.
Ultimately, it was the EIC's investment, so it should be the EIC that benefits, not merely K8P and Mathilde... but at the same time, Mathilde is 36% of the EIC, and she knows a certain Head Librarian who would be more than willing to give the EIC a fair and equitable price for all those books, more than compensating them for the price of what they invested in the ithilmar. I think I'm fine with either of these two options, in the end.

[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Initiate
I consider these two of utmost importance. Mathilde Weber, she who welcomes children to the Colleges, her home.

[X] Dooming and Quickening
Entrance Examination is 99% guaranteed to be Mandred, so it might just make the writing flow better to go from the Dooming to that. To know him a bit better than the past two or so times we have. And... I'm wondering whether we'll see any interesting visions. Even in the worst case scenario of a terrible vision, Mathilde can reassure Mandred that you can have a seemingly terrible Dooming and still come out alright like her.

[X] The Festival Lord
I want to go watch Extreme Elven Political Sports. I want to see what sort of nonsense they get up to.

[X] Amber College
You know how we've been talking about getting Eonir books of Medicine and Anatomy lately, so we can translate them for the Cult of Shallya? This is how we can do that and remain in the green Favor-wise.

[] Sarvoi
In case Amber College doesn't win, I want to at least talk some magic with our favorite charming Eonir.

[X] Reading on Nehekhara
Doesn't look like Amber College might win so I'm boosting this one as well.
 
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[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

[X] Niedzwenka
[X] The Festival Lord
[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Sarvoi
 
HungryHamadryad said:
I didn't articulate my original point well at all; book bonuses to these various subjects are very nice and very welcome, but we have to actually shake loose the AP to pursue any of them through to the point that they yield some real actionable, deployable results. I'm not sure I foresee that process accelerating anytime soon. Getting some armor out of this deal would be of immediate and practical (potential) use, and the only future investment that might be involved would be enchanting it. It doesn't nearly so much hinge upon future investment to bear fruit as book might, as even if it went unenchanted it would still be useful.

I'm sure this next point has already been made but; if we took the money and went to Lothern, and bumped into someone willing to sell us Ithilmar armor, that seems like exactly the sort of thing which we had hoped to purchase on the trip in the first place except it's right here and right now.

Also, do we have a word of Boney yet on how it interacts with mage armor?
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We spend AP on magic research about every single turn.

[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books
[X] [ITHILMAR] Ithilmar armor for Mathilde.

[X] Niedzwenka
[] Sarvoi
[X] The Festival Lord
[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Entrance Examination
 
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It probably doesn't matter since I don't think Boney would interpret it as uncharitably as it reads, but there's really no reason to purposely vote for a worse book reward then is on offer. Just comes across as very weird to me to look at an offer for the whole library and immediately stake out a smaller negotiating position.
 
[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
I don't really have a strong enough opinion on the rest of the options to vote for them, but I do love the idea of handing Wilhelmina an absurd windfall and watching her go mad with (economic) power. Last time we gave her this much of an opportunity she danced around a Dwarf king.
 
[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

[X] Swordplay
[X] The Festival Lord
[X] Initiate
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Entrance Examination
 
I'm fine with either of these. I don't really want books or Ithilmar mail.
[X] [ITHILMAR] Precious Stones
[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

I want to do all the time sensitive things
[X] The Festival Lord
[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Witch Hunter

But these are also interesting
[] Sarvoi
[X] Okri
[X] Kalashiniviks
[X] Skull River Ambush
 
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[x] Skull River Ambush

If there's a particularly good argument I might change my thoughts on some of the options. But damn it I want to know what went on at Skull River. It's an unsolved mystery that need to be looked into!
 
[] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.

I'm not even a particular BOOK fan, but the way some people have argued against this has kind of made me want to vote for it.

[X] [ITHILMAR] Ithilmar armor for Mathilde.

[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Initiate
[X] Swordplay
[X] The Festival Lord

Edit: Screw it.

[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary
 
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[x] Orb Reveal
[x] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[x] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.
[x] Niedzwenka
[x] Initiate
[x] Dooming and Quickening
[x] Entrance Examination
[x] The Festival Lord
 
[X] [ITHILMAR] Precious Stones
[ ] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.

[X] Initiate
[X] Middenland
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Druchii Diplomats

[X] Niedzwenka
[X] Skull River Ambush
[ ] Sarvoi
[X] The Festival Lord
[X] Okri
[X] Kalashiniviks
 
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HungryHamadryad said:
Also, do we have a word of Boney yet on how it interacts with mage armor?
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Positively.

Retrueno said:
@Boney
A doubt about the magic books. Would they be written in the Eonir language (sorry can't remember its name), or directly in Anoqenyan since that's the language they use for magic and describing it?
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It would be written in varying forms of Eltharin depending on when it was written as their dialect-

Mopman43 said:
From what I've experienced in the thread so far, the main ways to nerd-snipe you seem to be linguistics and the logistics of medieval living.
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-as their dialect diverges from Ulthuan's, with Anoqeyan loanwords that can be puzzled out from context and cross-referencing.
 
[X] [ITHILMAR] Precious Stones

[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Middenland
 
[x] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[x] Initiate
[x] Dooming and Quickening
[x] Entrance Examination
[x] Witch Hunter
[x] Skull River Ambush
 
Actually thinking about things, showing up to Ulthuan wearing Ithilmar Armor seeing the Elves reactions would be a lot of fun.
And all the other options are pretty generic to me.
 
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[x] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[x] Initiate
[x] Dooming and Quickening
[x] Entrance Examination
[x] Skull River Ambush
[x] Reading on Nehekhara
 
I'm glad that Eike's "Seen, Not Heard" trait has proven useful for her, although in retrospect it makes sense that it'd be synergistic with an "Infiltration" skill.

And I'm inordinately amused by the new addition to K8P. I'm a little sad that it's growing on its own plot of land instead of being closer to the halfling settlement. How can they call themselves a proper hobbit halfling village without a massive Mallorn tree of Elvish origin growing in it? :tongue:

[x] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

[x] Initiate
[x] Druchii Diplomats
[x] Dooming and Quickening
 
[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] [ITHILMAR] Precious Stones
 
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[X] Initiate
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Sarvoi

[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary
 
Boney said:
Not enthused here, either. I really don't want this sort of thing getting normalized, it seems like a short and slippery slope towards the thread splitting into camps that actively demonize and provoke each other.

If you don't like the thread doing X with the protagonist's resources, the way to change that isn't to denigrate X, it's to find and espouse a more compelling Y. Or sometimes it's just to accept that not every part of a piece of writing will be to your tastes.
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It's your thread - if you say ease off, I'll ease off.

[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Initiate
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Druchii Diplomats
 
[x] [ITHILMAR] Precious Stones
[x] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

[x] Sarvoi
[x] Initiate
[x] Reading on Nehekhara
[x] Dooming and Quickening
[x] Skull River Ambush
[x] Entrance Examination
 
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[x] Orb Reveal
[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.
[X] The Festival Lord
 
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