Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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We definitely don't want anything to do with Belakor. That's that high end Daemon stuff, and best left well enough alone by our measly self.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] [LIBRARY] Back-fill: Social Sciences
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Flora of the Reik Basin
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Anatomy
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric, 100 gc)
We should get the remaining Ulric books out of pocket. Ulric is the only god whose books we can get so casually, and he is one of the main factors between the Nordland and Middenland thing.
On top of that, the book Lord Ulric and the Making of the World (presumably within Esoteric) has some mythical stuff regarding not just what Eltharion said about the Sea of Claws and its creation, and the possible creation of the Skaven, but also speaks of Ranald's relationship with Ulric, related also to Cd-3 and the Making of the World. It would be fun to have and read.
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Flora of the Reik Basin
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Anatomy
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric, 100 gc)
We should get the remaining Ulric books out of pocket. Ulric is the only god whose books we can get so casually, and he is one of the main factors between the Nordland and Middenland thing.
On top of that, the book Lord Ulric and the Making of the World (presumably within Esoteric) has some mythical stuff regarding not just what Eltharion said about the Sea of Claws and its creation, and the possible creation of the Skaven, but also speaks of Ranald's relationship with Ulric, related also to Cd-3 and the Making of the World. It would be fun to have and read.
- Location
- Norway
Apparently Belakor planned to "gather enough power to gain physical form by holding Albion in his grip"
whfb.lexicanum.com
whatever that means, so he might be over there, or he could be over in Mordheim, or off doing deamon things somewhere else. I would have serious concerns about any plan including searching him out for any other purpose than banishing him, and even then I'm pretty sure he is out of our league.
Be'lakor - Warhammer - The Old World - Lexicanum
[X] [LIBRARY] Barak Varr: The Ten Kingdoms of Ulthuan, the Kingdom of Nehekhara, Naval Warfare
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Flora of the Reik Basin
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Anatomy
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric, 100 gc)
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Flora of the Reik Basin
[X] [LIBRARY] Library of Mournings: Medicine and Anatomy
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric, 100 gc)
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K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
That was very funny, thanks. I just didn't ge the joke about the faith and that little weasel.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
In the video clip, the ferret takes its human and leads them to the nest in which it has its children.
This is roughly analogous to the outcome of the divine AV experimentation vote, where we chose Faith over Truth and Ranald told us he has kids.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
The dancing animated weasel is reference to Supreme Patriarch´s dragon form looking a little bit weasely.
Also Be´lakor is mostly powerless shadow. Don´t think we need to concern ourselves with him overmuch.
- Location
- Brazil
This reminds me, we should definitely pencil in some horrors to inflict on our gyrocarriage one of these days. The potential for windherding alone...
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
Or we can save our money for upcoming Elfcation because there will be shopping oppurtunity at Lothern.
Because this just feel like spending money to spend money. Not because we need it.
[X] [LIBRARY] Back-fill: Social science
[X] [LIBRARY] Barak Varr: The Ten Kingdoms of Ulthuan, the Kingdom of Nehekhara, Naval Warfare
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] No purchase.
Edit: People I think we need to vote for (Puchase) option as well. Especially if you don't want to buy books with our money vote no purchase! Don't just skip it!
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
While I disagree about the Ulric purchase, because I think it's valuable to know more about a cult when we're working at the epicenter of its major political crisis, I will point out that you're not actually voting against it. You need [X] [PURCHASE] No purchase. in addition to the other votes to oppose an out-of-pocket purchase.
And you're missing an open bracket here, causing your vote not to count.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
I was literally editing my votes in after posting since nobody else posted after me. And got them in before you posted. I had no vote at the start at all.
Don't pay gold then. We can add it to three topic of Barak Varr. Spending gold is just wasting it at this point.
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the mammoth part hit too close to home...never forgot : (
Iirc we can't actually because these books aren't available to barak varr, they come from ulrikadrin.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
Source? That is not at the update or I missed it. More to point there should be a way for library to get them anyway. That is the point of the boon we spend.
I swear if there is one thing that can make me give up on being head librarian that is spending gold on books which Thread keeps doing.
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[X] [LIBRARY] Back-fill: Social Sciences
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric), Medicine (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir) and Anatomy (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir)
[X] [COLLEGES] Translate : Medicine (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir) books
I say let's splurge on books that we want. I think it's probably better to pay gold for Eonir books and if we are going to get those books someday let's get them now and reap the benefit sooner. And unless I'm mistaken, we have the extra CF to translate at least the medicine ones right away.
If we want more gold for the Elfcation, there is always the Ithilmar option, but the books are right there and could start to bring us dividends as soon as we get them. I'd rather have the instant payoff than wait Ranald knows how long!
[X] [PURCHASE] Ulric (Imperial Esoteric), Medicine (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir) and Anatomy (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir)
[X] [COLLEGES] Translate : Medicine (Extensive and Esoteric Eonir) books
I say let's splurge on books that we want. I think it's probably better to pay gold for Eonir books and if we are going to get those books someday let's get them now and reap the benefit sooner. And unless I'm mistaken, we have the extra CF to translate at least the medicine ones right away.
If we want more gold for the Elfcation, there is always the Ithilmar option, but the books are right there and could start to bring us dividends as soon as we get them. I'd rather have the instant payoff than wait Ranald knows how long!
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Again, this is of relevance because the Cult of Ulric is one of the centerpoints of the problems with Nordland and Middenland. I'm not voting for it solely because I have a personal interest in it.
Another reason is that we already have the first three points of Ulric books - even if we can get those two remaining book points via the Library of Mournings (as I think Boney has said before, since the Eonir are adding him to their pantheon), it'd be inefficient to do so, and also a bit painful given that we only have two book topics from them.
Also, we've already had some talk previously about how if we want money before going to Lothern, we should take the EIC ithilmar action - that's likely to give us a lot more liquid cash than we currently have on hand. If we really want stuff from Lothern then we don't have to stress over our current budget. 100 gc isn't going to make a dent.
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Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
Ah efficiency my greatest enemy in convincing people stop wasting money.
But I don't understand why we need to as efficient as possible. We are not in hurry to do anything so it is quite fine to take library of mourning action. I would support that. But no you have backfill instead which makes no sense to me.
found the damn quote i was looking for
and mostly i think its a problem of "cults dont sell books for money if they dont have to."
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
I am not sure I understand this. Do we have to spend money or can we just vote for "Library Ulrikadrin Ulric" and get it that way.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I am, though. I am voting both for Backfill: Social Sciences and varying Library of Mournings votes (albeit, ones that aren't looking very likely to win right now). The commonality in both is that I don't want to vote for anything that we already have books for. For instance, if we had already bought some (but not all) Eonir Medicine books, I'd push to buy the remaining ones out of pocket because it'd be something of a waste otherwise.
...Speaking of which, we should really pick up the remaining Eonir Trade books some other turn. It hurts to see it at just Extensive.
Anywayi, in this case the Ulric books are only two library points. I don't see why we should stress over a mere 100 gc, particularly when the EIC is gonna see its profits go up with the canal's opening. And I don't think Boney would purposely show us some cool item in Lothern that we just can't afford because we're short 100 gc.
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That I don't know, but if I had to guess it would involve us personally paying them because the dwarfs have no contact with their religion.
So a dwarf rep going there and demanding books for coin is (probably) not an option.
You still have to pay for them. Books take a lot of labour to make.