Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Uh oh. Charity is going to blow a gasket when she finds out we joined the Ordo Lebetis. It presses her buttons more perfectly then anything else we have done so far and I don't think that we can defend the Ordo Lebetis from her. They have no idea what they have gotten themselves into.
 
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Uh oh. Charity is going to blow a gasket when she finds out we joined the Ordo Lebetis. It presses her buttons more perfectly then anything else we have done so far and I don't think that we can defend the Ordo Lebetis from her. They have no idea what they have gotten themselves into.

I don't think it maps quite perfectly, if anything we'll be the (hopefully non-monster) leader figure soon enough and it's more of a Social club than the cult Charity was in.
 
I don't think it maps quite perfectly, if anything we'll be the (hopefully non-monster) leader figure soon enough and it's more of a Social club than the cult Charity was in.
And if Charity actually gonked that Molly is an Exalted then just about all our arguing with her would disappear, but she doesn't so it maps perfectly.
 
I don't think it maps quite perfectly, if anything we'll be the (hopefully non-monster) leader figure soon enough and it's more of a Social club than the cult Charity was in.
We could propably quite easily become the dragon demanding sacrifices, not just the cult-leader.

We propably won't, but that fits the balance of power a lot better.
 
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So, yeah, even if not right this moment, we should definitely get the list of properties that trigger spiritualists' senses. Whether all of them are hauntings in the sense of "being inhabited by the spirits of dead people", or some of them also properties where fey, demon or literal aliens inhabit, cleaning them out seems like a good business. We need sources of XP.
 
So, yeah, even if not right this moment, we should definitely get the list of properties that trigger spiritualists' senses. Whether all of them are hauntings in the sense of "being inhabited by the spirits of dead people", or some of them also properties where fey, demon or literal aliens inhabit, cleaning them out seems like a good business. We need sources of XP.
Eh, it's likely better to do things we find fun. Grinding for XP would be a case of use trying to optimize the fun out of the quest. Also fun things tend to be worth XP. For example helping our brother learn Latin was an achievement.

Although now I sort of want to use a crown question to find the monster with the most active kill count in Chicago. Was going to say highest, but I think we don't just want a a dragon that has been sleeping for the last century or the like. But it would be cool to go find and deal with the most active predator in Chicago.

Or maybe we should just be proactive about dealing with the nickelheads. That should be worth loads of XP.

Any action to grind XP is generally going to cost an action point.

Edit:Weird question. Our essence regains at dawn. We might gain access to fast travel soon. The Earth is round unlike creation. I think that you can see the question.
 
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Eh, it's likely better to do things we find fun. Grinding for XP would be a case of use trying to optimize the fun out of the quest. Also fun things tend to be worth XP. For example helping our brother learn Latin was an achievement.

Although now I sort of want to use a crown question to find the monster with the most active kill count in Chicago. Was going to say highest, but I think we don't just want a a dragon that has been sleeping for the last century or the like. But it would be cool to go find and deal with the most active predator in Chicago.

Or maybe we should just be proactive about dealing with the nickelheads. That should be worth loads of XP.

Any action to grind XP is generally going to cost an action point.

Edit:Weird question. Our essence regains at dawn. We might gain access to fast travel soon. The Earth is round unlike creation. I think that you can see the question.
Oh, that's an interesting idea, though I'm not sure if we the "slumbering evil awakening once in a century" or something like this would be a bad thing. We could ask for a list of top ten supernatural murderers inhabiting Chicago general area. Finding them would be the next task, but it would be a worthwhile endeavor.

I don't think doing house cleansing in regards to hauntings would be optimizing the fun out of the quest. Lydia is very optimized, narratively and mechanically, to deal with unquiet dead. I want to give her an adventure where she takes the lead, and we are the (heavy) backup. Maybe a chance to get some spirit minions of her own.

As for my personal adventure I want to do - exploring Atlantis. We are one charm away from it (Villain Dispersal one), and if it's submerged under water, there's very little danger to it (we can always disperse ourselves to escape).
 
OK, just some more meetings, no pushing.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 1, 2023 at 5:13 AM, finished with 98 posts and 24 votes.
 
Arc 4 Post 31: Between the Worlds
Between the Worlds

28th of August 2006 A.D.

Having decided not to push for any changes or open the can of worms marked 'electronic devils' you spend the next two days visiting around the other members of the Order of the Cauldron. Once you get over the initial wariness and in one embarrassing case having in someone's hallways for half an hour while they took apart the ward that would have woken half the building if someone as 'magically weighty' as you past it the younger practitioners are a really excited to talk to you and Lydia. You find yourself conjuring tools for all sorts of odd purposes just to prove you can, personally you think the bio-mechanical butter-churn takes the cake for weirdest Though you quickly dismiss it because unlike little Elly her aunt seems perturbed more than impressed by obvious displays of magic.

Lydia meanwhile puts on a dog and crow show, with the animals always getting well fed and petted for their neighbors. On a more practical note she manages to explain to one rambunctious terrier why he should not chew on his owner's slippers. By the wistful look on his little doggy face you suspect those slippers will not be safe for long regardless.

For her part Olivia Deol gives a quiet laugh. Everything about Olivia is quiet, from the muted colors of her leotard and tights to the way she hardly seems to make a sound across the creaky floorboards of the turn of the last century apartment building and it is not all wholly mundane. She seems to slip out of focus around the edges of vision, slip out of mind when she goes into the kitchen to fetch some tea.

"It sounds a little silly to admit, but that is why I took up dancing, the lights, the music, the story, all focus the attention of the crowd beyond what my wallflower power can hide." She laughs quietly. "I mean that is probably not the technical term for it, but if I were a Power Ranger my color would be beige or cream."

"Nothing wrong with beige," Lydia says stoutly.

Part of you wonders why she does not dress more obviously if it bothers her, but you do not want to put your foot in your mouth even if she is just eight months older than you, the youngest adult in the Order. Instead you note: "You could be one of those Ninja Rangers, like from the new one, Power Rangers Ninja Storm."

"There is a new Power Rangers?" Olivia asks, startled.

"Sure, they are always making new ones, they cost like fifty cents and a pack of gum per episode to produce..."

"And are they actual ninjas or still wearing primary colors?"

"They are ninjas in spirit," you giggle.

You do give some thought to poor Anna as her eyes start to glaze over, but it's been a long time since you have been able to talk Power Rangers 'lore' with anyone and Lydia is such a perfect straight woman for the sillier parts of the show.

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Maria Casselli, proud owner of Spritz and Sparkle Car Wash, to which she offers a free monthly wash to every member of the order is the next youngest, college age though without any intention of going off has just gotten engaged, in the middle of what you can only think of as a storm of fabrics, dresses, leaflets for catering and photography, such that you feel the urge to but out almost as soon as you Lydia and Abby make it in the door. But quite the contrary to the bridal horror stories you hear sometimes Maria seems genuinely delighted for the company, her cheerfulness downright infectious.

Before the hour was out both of you had been invited to her wedding next month, Lydia had offered to use her magic to get a raven to do the Disney Princess thing with a flower crown at said wedding which the bride-to-be accepted and then they got to talking about the best places in Sicily to go. Maria's grandparents had been from there but she has never visited so she decided to take the opportunity of her honeymoon to change that.

When the matter of magic came up though Maria's smile fades a little around the edges, her eyes turning wistful. She explains that her particular talent is weather work, which in one sense makes her the most powerful talent in the whole order, though she has not had a lot of opportunities to use her powers beyond learning to control them

"Not a lot of reason to be changing the weather around here, well maybe in the winter," She gives a faux shiver and a wink. "Not really though, weather work's not something to do lightly, gammy drilled that into my head right-proper, you never know all you're going to change to get your will done and besides people notice, things too." She stops a moment then launches herself into a a quandary that had clearly been on her mind long before the three of you had walked in the door. "I don't know if I should tell Alex about it. I'd have to show him really for him to believe me and it can be a bit... overwhelming, but at the same time it doesn't feel right to go down that aisle and speak those vows when I'm keeping a secret that big from him. You two are out to your families right? What do you think I should do?"

"Yeah I'm really open with my dad about the magic stuff," Lydia can't help herself from saying, though she adds more seriously. "My experience isn't really normal for these things, you're better off taking this one Molly."

What advice do you give?

[] Show her fiance her magic

[] Do not show her fiance the magic

[] Write in


OOC: In mechanical terms Olivia has Psychic Invisibility and Maria has Weather Control
 
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[X] Show her fiance her magic
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[X] Well, we've just met and I've not spoken to Alex so my perspective can not be well informed on the specifics of your life. But. Yes, tell him. Putting aside the idea of entering a marriage where one is actively choosing to deceive their partner about an aspect of their life, you are also a part of a group which has magic as a shared feature. The stress and effort of having to keep up a web of small lies for the rest of your life is not worth it. You probably don't have to show him weather magic, same way you don't have to show us: Just ask someone else in the order to show him something he'd deem physically impossible and your 'weather alteration is big and noticeable' explanation should suffice.

edit: the above is worded poorly, but "magic is real but I'm not showing you mine" is much more palatable when one can show someone else's magic :)
 
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I don't know if I should tell Alex about it. I'd have to show him really for him to believe me and it can be a bit... overwhelming, but at the same time it doesn't feel right to go down that aisle and speak those vows when I'm keeping a secret that big from him.
I dunno about this. I kinda want her to just come out to her fiancee, but it doesn't feel right to just tell her to come out.

I don't know how to explain it but it felt to me like it should be Maria's decision whether to keep it a secret or not.
 
Holy crap, weather control, even on a relatively small scale, is a major power. If anyone among the Order has the magical juice to make the leap to proper wizard, it would be Maria. I wonder what it would take to get her some real instruction?

As for telling her fiance, I don't think we can really argue against it, not in good conscience. It wouldn't really be much of an issue, except for the part where Maria exists within the narrow target demographic for various supernatural predators, so anyone closely associated with her, such as a husband, is also in danger. Perhaps even more danger, since his ignorance could be exploited. It's almost like marrying someone and not knowing they were in the witness protection program until the mafia hitmen show up at your house at 3 AM with silenced .22s.

[X] Show her fiance her magic
 
Holy crap, weather control, even on a relatively small scale, is a major power. If anyone among the Order has the magical juice to make the leap to proper wizard, it would be Maria. I wonder what it would take to get her some real instruction?

As for telling her fiance, I don't think we can really argue against it, not in good conscience. It wouldn't really be much of an issue, except for the part where Maria exists within the narrow target demographic for various supernatural predators, so anyone closely associated with her, such as a husband, is also in danger. Perhaps even more danger, since his ignorance could be exploited. It's almost like marrying someone and not knowing they were in the witness protection program until the mafia hitmen show up at your house at 3 AM with silenced .22s.

[X] Show her fiance her magic

It is indeed quite powerful but it has other limitations. To quote the book:

Regardless of who practices it, Weather Control is usually slow. Instantaneous effects are rare and extreme, with most taking hours or even days to finish building up. Its limits are also more visible than many Paths, as a tidal wave cannot be called up when inland and clear skies can't be instantly turned into a hurricane.
 
[X] Show her fiance her magic

I wonder if VEE can grant the True Love merit; and if so what it does.
 
The two options are really supppress her magic until it withers or how her fiance, hiding something like this from someone so close is tempting tragedy.
 
[X] Show her fiance her magic

I wonder if VEE can grant the True Love merit; and if so what it does.

It can and it depends on how she words the wish.
  • If she wants to have True Love in general than the wish will warp the fate of a person who is a good fit for that kind of deep spiritual connection to get them in contact
  • If she asks for True Love with her fiance... well VEE does not care about the laws of magic, it will push one or both of them into that kind of connection as needed
This is one of those 'be careful what you wish for' cases.
 
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[X] Show her fiance her magic
-[X] If children become a thing, they are might inherit magic.
-[X] If she wants a smaller-scale demonstration, you can provide some obvious magic
-[X] Offer to make her the bridal dress, and the cake. You have all the tools.

The wedding cake can probably trigger TLF. Ie we'd be making it at difficulty 3. With TTC. With excellencies. It'd probably be the best wedding cake they will ever have. And the dress too, for that matter.
 
I dunno about this. I kinda want her to just come out to her fiancee, but it doesn't feel right to just tell her to come out.

I don't know how to explain it but it felt to me like it should be Maria's decision whether to keep it a secret or not.
I mean it is her decision in the end, this is just her asking for input from people that have to deal with this situation themselves. Making your own decisions isn't the same as making your decisions without being informed by other people's experiences.

That said, I'm not sure how useful Molly is as a separate perspective here. Her parents are both clued in and were clued in before they even met.
The two options are really supppress her magic until it withers or how her fiance, hiding something like this from someone so close is tempting tragedy.
That's a little extreme; keeping the secret would be bad for their relationship, but I wouldn't say it's bad enough that spiritual mutation is obvious alternative.

[X] Show her fiance her magic


As an aside, just how obvious is weather magic to a muggle anyway? It might be helpful for us to suggest she introduce him to members of the ordo willing to show him something more immediate. Conjuring fire or something like that.

We could volunteer ourselves, but if there's someone else to do it that she knows better then I think they would be a preferable option.
 
As an aside, just how obvious is weather magic to a muggle anyway? It might be helpful for us to suggest she introduce him to members of the ordo willing to show him something more immediate. Conjuring fire or something like that.

We could volunteer ourselves, but if there's someone else to do it that she knows better then I think they would be a preferable option.

It depends on how wide ranging and how extreme you want the changes to work out, if the answer to both is 'very' the weather satellites will notice.
 
Well they might, but it is not actually likely in this world, even full wizards are not really likely to have magical children and they have the best chance.

Interesting. In the baseline Dresden continuity the only reason that Molly's younger siblings don't have magical talent is that Charity suppressed her gift. Otherwise it seems guaranteed that significant pre-natal exposure to magic makes a person magically sensitive/talented.
 
Weather Control is not that uncommon in WoD.

Sorcerers can do it, Mages can do it with Forces, Vampires can do it with Thaumaturgy, Wan Kuei can do it with the Storm Shintai and I would be highly surprised if Werewolves didn't have fitting gifts for it (and even if they don't they can beseech spirits who definitly have the ability).

By RAW Harry as a Mage skilled in Forces could do it too.
 
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