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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Eisenhelm said:
Question, would this accident require a we take the vow of the slayer were we a normal dwarf?
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Nobody is ever required to take the Slayer Oath. If someone performed a reckless and unsanctioned experiment that did permanently weaken the the defences of the Karak or caused permanent injury or death to its Dwarves, then official judgement would likely result in any or all of expulsion from Guild, banishment from Karak, or disownment by their Clan. Whether a Dwarf takes the Slayer Oath to avoid the shame of those, or because they feel that their debt to the Karak or to those crippled or killed can never be sufficiently repaid, is their choice to make.
 
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Mathilde's candidacy seems like a much lesser deal in the context of the like half-a-dozen people also named as potential candidates, especially since that already draws from just the narrow people Mathilde actually knows personally. If everyone with a grudge, talent, and power is a potential candidate, then no individual accusation holds much merit, imho.

At least birdy didn't bother going full silliness and tell her that Belegar's frustration with dwarven society would make him a good candidate or something like that…
 
torac said:
Mathilde's candidacy seems like a much lesser deal in the context of the like half-a-dozen people also named as potential candidates, especially since that already draws from just the narrow people Mathilde actually knows personally. If everyone with a grudge, talent, and power is a potential candidate, then no individual accusation holds much merit, imho.

At least birdy didn't bother going full silliness and tell her that Belegar's frustration with dwarven society would make him a good candidate or something like that…
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But is there a point of telling our order about it, as i can see it we can only diminish out reputation by putting ourselves whit that lot for no clear benefit.
 
[X] [BELEGAR] Nothing
[X] [COLLEGE] Nothing

A wizard reveals what is necessary, and no more. One more omen won't tip the balance in the Empire's preparations, but the risks of disclosing it are severe, even if just because Tzeentch is involved. Better to take this to our grave.
 
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[X] [BELEGAR] Greater Daemon
[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon

Telling Belegar about the demon is good courtesy, and also probably not something that will surprise him. Magic = suddenly demons is a well-known risk, so something like this happening shouldn't seriously be damage our relationship. Telling him about the breach, however, doesn't seem worth it; it'll fade quickly, it happened in a place designed to contain magical events, and he doesn't have proper context for what it actually means.

Telling the college about our encounter I don't see as likely to cause us serious reputational damage, for reasons discussed previously, and if we're going to do that we might as well bring up the whole incoming Everchosen thing. Saying we personally are a candidate, however... no. Just no. It's one thing to say a demon made a bunch of vague prophetic statements at you. It's another to say that they want you to be the one to end the world, because reporting that implies it's a possibility the person being told needs to be wary of.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
That said, now that 'Everbooty incoming' is an the agenda, getting Kislev tributarys and Waystones up and running just became priority one for the project.
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I'd actually say the opposite; why build new infrastructure in an area you know is about to be attacked, looted, and sacked? After the Everchosen, yes, definitely. Prior to them? Unless we have decades left for the waystones to weaken the wastes, it's just more stuff for them to smash.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
We know the College policy when they suspect daemonic corruption (we were too conveniently helpful and got a possession-check and an anti-Chaos class), and we know how they responded to the last Greater Daemon we met (in battle, but so was this in many ways), which was pretty chill all things considered. The circumstances are a tad different this time, but not enough to make the response concerning.

That calculus changes a little if we mention being an Everchosen candidate and I'm not sure that's useful, but just mentioning the daemon shouldn't actually be that big a deal.
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See the thing is, you didn't answer my question, why tell anything in the first place ?
In balance we have reasons to believe we can do so whitout negative consequences, but that is not a reason for , is just saying there is no guaranted negative outcome.
on the other hand we know there are potential negative outcomes, in the update itself itself is noted how this may bring problems to our projects.
Outside of telling about the coming everchosen the possibility space for telling about anything else is full of potential negative results and no positives, so why even risk it in the first place?
Put in other way if telling doesn't matter why will they care if we don't ?
 
[X] [BELEGAR] Nothing
[X] [BELEGAR] Greater Daemon
[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon
 
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Given that Boney rolls for things, it would be pretty funny if the Everchoosen amounted to nothing because they just went off to hit Nagaroth instead.
 
[x] [BELEGAR] Daemon and weakening
[x] [COLLEGE] Everchosen, Daemon, and Mathilde's candidacy

Full disclosure hoh
 
Boney said:
Morality aside, that offer is just insulting. Even the Druchii have done better.
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I think this reflects my reaction. The 'temptation' of Chaos is doomed to failure simply because they don't actually have much to offer.
If Mathilde wanted to go play Immortal God-Queen she already has a method that doesn't involve enslaving herself to a bunch of jumped up poltergeists.

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Friend Egrimm has been a staunch ally and companion. If he has been playing a long-con then at this point he frankly deserves to pull it off.

comforting familiarity of magical theorizing
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It is indeed surprisingly soothing to watch her scientific hypothesising.

[X] [BELEGAR] Daemon and weakening
There is very, very little I would not trust Belebro with. He was accepting of Mathy having a brush with an Orc god when he hardly knew her.

[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon
Pertinent information. That an Everchosen is in the works is important. But given the candidate list is 'whoever Chaos can gets its hands on', the fact that a Lord Magister is on said list isn't news.
Mathy running into another Greater Demon is worth reporting just to see if the College can offer any additional advice.
 
Zaratustra said:
See the thing is, you didn't answer my question, why tell anything in the first place ?
In balance we have reasons to believe we can do so whitout negative consequences, but that is not a reason for , is just saying there is no guaranted negative outcome.
on the other hand we know there are potential negative outcomes, in the update itself itself is noted how this may bring problems to our projects.
Outside of telling about the coming everchosen the possibility space for telling about anything else is full of potential negative results and no positives, so why even risk it in the first place?
Put in other way if telling doesn't matter why will they care if we don't ?
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Telling is mostly a 'best practices' thing. We would want other people to not keep this to themselves, and we should thus do what we'd want other trustworthy people to do in our place. But telling the Grey College has some actual potential upsides as well (mostly a combination of making it harder for Tzeentch to cast aspersions at us, and maybe getting some good advice on dealing with people triggering our paranoia intentionally).

The upsides aren't huge, but I don't realistically think there's much of a downside, and with even modest upsides and no downside, we should do it.
 
[X] [BELEGAR] Daemon and weakening
[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen, Daemon, and Mathilde's candidacy
 
[x] [COLLEGE] Incoming Everchosen
[x] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon
[x] [BELEGAR] Weakening of reality
[x] [BELEGAR] Daemon and weakening
 
[X] [BELEGAR] Greater Daemon
[X] [BELEGAR] Daemon and weakening

[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon
[X] [COLLEGE] Everchosen, Daemon, and Mathilde's candidacy
 
[x] [BELEGAR] Greater Daemon
[x] [COLLEGE] Everchosen and Greater Daemon
 
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